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      This is a big, heavy, German tank and we love it. BMW might not make an M7 for whatever reason (but M SUV's make sense) however the G11 M760Li is the closest thing and basically an M7 in all but the name.


      The 6.6 liter N74B66TU powerplant is a powerhouse with 602 horsepower and 590 lb-ft of torque. That big motor moves the big all wheel drive 7-Series with ease.

      AutoTopNL runs it to the limiter at 162 miles per hour. That speed is reached in roughly 22 seconds.

      This is an autobahn cruise missile. Imagine one with a tune?


      This article was originally published in forum thread: Watch BMW's twin turbo all wheel drive V12 G11 M760li hustle to 162 miles per hour started by Sticky View original post
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      1. nbrigdan's Avatar
        nbrigdan -
        I saw a bunch of these new 7 series cars in Bern, and while no doubt the performance is impressive I honestly mistook them for 5 series half the time. I feel like BMW's new styling language has kind of missed the mark and they've all blended together.
      1. ezec63's Avatar
        ezec63 -
        Weird all these 760 videos I have seen have the car launching from second gear. It seems like the car doesn't even go into 1st gear even at a standstill with the car in Sport
      1. Den*'s Avatar
        Den* -
        Amazing!!!
      1. Aaron's Avatar
        Aaron -
        So over a decade ago, AMG made more power, a second engine's worth of more torque, better gas mileage, with less displacement. Go BMW.
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Aaron Click here to enlarge
        So over a decade ago, AMG made more power, a second engine's worth of more torque, better gas mileage, with less displacement. Go BMW.
        I'm not sure what you are basing better gas mileage on.

        AMG basically just took their SOHC 6.0 liter V12 and added turbos. The BMW design here is more advanced.
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Aaron Click here to enlarge
        So over a decade ago, AMG made more power, a second engine's worth of more torque, better gas mileage, with less displacement. Go BMW.
        Thought I would add the engine makes 624 hp and 590 lb-ft in the Wraith.

        This motor is hardly being pushed. It's designed for smooth power delivery and gobs of torque everywhere.
      1. Aaron's Avatar
        Aaron -
        Ha. Worse gas mileage, less power, less torque, and more displacement. So that's advanced huh? I am going to advance N54 design. I'll bore/stroke it, cut power, cut torque, and increase fuel consumption. Then sticky will call it advanced.
      1. 93siro's Avatar
        93siro -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Aaron Click here to enlarge
        Ha. Worse gas mileage, less power, less torque, and more displacement. So that's advanced huh? I am going to advance N54 design. I'll bore/stroke it, cut power, cut torque, and increase fuel consumption. Then sticky will call it advanced.
        Get your facts straight.

        S65 AMG: 15 mpg
        M760li: 22.4 mpg

        The AMG boost is up to 22 psi, 10 more than the Wraith engine. That should be sufficient to give that much more output.
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Aaron Click here to enlarge
        Ha. Worse gas mileage, less power, less torque, and more displacement. So that's advanced huh? I am going to advance N54 design. I'll bore/stroke it, cut power, cut torque, and increase fuel consumption. Then sticky will call it advanced.
        I'm not sure what point you're trying to make as you are ignoring the facts.

        Yes, the N74 is more advanced. DOHC, direct injected, higher compression, VANOS with 50 degree adjustment, four valves per cylinder, more efficient, etc.

        If all you base an engine design off is output then your reasoning is basic.
      1. Aaron's Avatar
        Aaron -
        Huh, the Federal Government puts the m760's fuel economy at 16. They're probably lying, it's Hillary's fault. Right?

        So all that advanced $#@!, and it didn't do anything. Nice.
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Aaron Click here to enlarge
        Huh, the Federal Government puts the m760's fuel economy at 16. They're probably lying, it's Hillary's fault. Right?

        So all that advanced $#@!, and it didn't do anything. Nice.
        It's a more advanced engine design. I don't know what to tell you as you don't seem to care about the details.
      1. leveraged sellout's Avatar
        leveraged sellout -
        Wow, my IQ just dropped 10 points reading that exchange.

        The M275 is a badass engine...it's also massively outdated. SOHC, 3 valves per cylinder, requires massive boost to make a lot of power, has some of the most restrictive heads, exhaust manifolds & turbos in any modern performance car. People who've flow-benched an M275 head will tell you it's hilariously bad...the reason it makes the type of power it does is massive, massive boost. And I've driven a 65 AMG car...they are fast as hell. But that engine is close to maxing out its factory turbos at stock power levels. You need to go to Speedriven to get bigger turbos and all new manifolds if you want to get serious power out of it...and you will also need an all-new inter cooling setup, as the factory setup is also at or past its limits on a hot day. Anyone who owns one can tell you this.

        There is no argument here...yes, the M275 is down 600 cc and makes *on paper* more horsepower. Both it and this new N74 are under-rated...not sure by how much in this case, will have to see real world quarter mile trap speeds. But it's safe to say they're like about the same. Torque, yes, the AMG motor has the higher peak figure. But this makes torque over a wider range. Also...you really think this engine is even trying at this output level? The thing has a *horsepower plateau* - which means it's tuned so conservatively that it can make the same power level over a 500 rpm range...they actually are limiting the power level, at that point. And the torque curve is flatter than Kansas. This thing has tons and tons left in it with merely a tune and 93 octane. Imagine it with some bolt-ons and maybe bigger turbos...won't even be close. It's a 6.6 liter engine with two turbos...this is just the starting point. This car will be one of the biggest performance bargains in history...it's far cheaper than an S63 with the same equipment level, about the same price as an S8 Plus, but has an engine that will likely cross into the 4 figure power output level with minimum work.

        Also, by all accounts, this car likes corners better than the other two as well. I'll take it. Can't wait to pick up a used one, tune it, and troll exotics on the freeway.
      1. subaru335i's Avatar
        subaru335i -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by leveraged sellout Click here to enlarge
        Wow, my IQ just dropped 10 points reading that exchange.

        The M275 is a badass engine...it's also massively outdated. SOHC, 3 valves per cylinder, requires massive boost to make a lot of power, has some of the most restrictive heads, exhaust manifolds & turbos in any modern performance car. People who've flow-benched an M275 head will tell you it's hilariously bad...the reason it makes the type of power it does is massive, massive boost. And I've driven a 65 AMG car...they are fast as hell. But that engine is close to maxing out its factory turbos at stock power levels. You need to go to Speedriven to get bigger turbos and all new manifolds if you want to get serious power out of it...and you will also need an all-new inter cooling setup, as the factory setup is also at or past its limits on a hot day. Anyone who owns one can tell you this.

        There is no argument here...yes, the M275 is down 600 cc and makes *on paper* more horsepower. Both it and this new N74 are under-rated...not sure by how much in this case, will have to see real world quarter mile trap speeds. But it's safe to say they're like about the same. Torque, yes, the AMG motor has the higher peak figure. But this makes torque over a wider range. Also...you really think this engine is even trying at this output level? The thing has a *horsepower plateau* - which means it's tuned so conservatively that it can make the same power level over a 500 rpm range...they actually are limiting the power level, at that point. And the torque curve is flatter than Kansas. This thing has tons and tons left in it with merely a tune and 93 octane. Imagine it with some bolt-ons and maybe bigger turbos...won't even be close. It's a 6.6 liter engine with two turbos...this is just the starting point. This car will be one of the biggest performance bargains in history...it's far cheaper than an S63 with the same equipment level, about the same price as an S8 Plus, but has an engine that will likely cross into the 4 figure power output level with minimum work.

        Also, by all accounts, this car likes corners better than the other two as well. I'll take it. Can't wait to pick up a used one, tune it, and troll exotics on the freeway.
        Excellent well thought out argument. This car definitely has a lot of potential. I don't really like modern BMW's but this thing seems impressive.
        What do you think they will cost in 3-5 years?
      1. Aaron's Avatar
        Aaron -
        I'm not talking about potential, though I'll agree the BMW has it, obviously. BMW doesn't design engines for potential, they design them to sell cars, plain and simple. If it was about potential, every newer turbo 6 would've been designed completely different than they were. The N54 has a pretty $#@!ty list of components, not unlike the 65 AMG. But it has, and BMW knew it would, strong aftermarket support.

        And guys don't buy this car to mod it to the moon and back. They buy it and hire a black guy to drive them.

        BMW would've been much wiser to drop the displacement a couple liters, make the engine smaller/lighter, and keep everything else. Same power, same torque, better fuel economy.
      1. subaru335i's Avatar
        subaru335i -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Aaron Click here to enlarge
        I'm not talking about potential, though I'll agree the BMW has it, obviously. BMW doesn't design engines for potential, they design them to sell cars, plain and simple. If it was about potential, every newer turbo 6 would've been designed completely different than they were. The N54 has a pretty $#@!ty list of components, not unlike the 65 AMG. But it has, and BMW knew it would, strong aftermarket support.

        And guys don't buy this car to mod it to the moon and back. They buy it and hire a black guy to drive them.

        BMW would've been much wiser to drop the displacement a couple liters, make the engine smaller/lighter, and keep everything else. Same power, same torque, better fuel economy.
        I dunno, now that these types of cars are twin turbo it does seem like some people mod them/will mod them when they buy them used.
        If it was just a car to be driven in you wouldn't care about getting the M760li you would get the normal 760Li.

        Also, a smaller engine could definitely get the same peak power/torque numbers but it wouldn't have the same character with such a flat torque curve and like the guy above said the power plateau meaning they tuned it for a certain power level and made that same power for more than just max rpm.
      1. Saca135i's Avatar
        Saca135i -
        Just imagine if bmw allowed m to work on this motor and create a s74, that would be crazy.
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by leveraged sellout Click here to enlarge
        Wow, my IQ just dropped 10 points reading that exchange.

        The M275 is a badass engine...it's also massively outdated. SOHC, 3 valves per cylinder, requires massive boost to make a lot of power, has some of the most restrictive heads, exhaust manifolds & turbos in any modern performance car. People who've flow-benched an M275 head will tell you it's hilariously bad...the reason it makes the type of power it does is massive, massive boost. And I've driven a 65 AMG car...they are fast as hell. But that engine is close to maxing out its factory turbos at stock power levels. You need to go to Speedriven to get bigger turbos and all new manifolds if you want to get serious power out of it...and you will also need an all-new inter cooling setup, as the factory setup is also at or past its limits on a hot day. Anyone who owns one can tell you this.

        There is no argument here...yes, the M275 is down 600 cc and makes *on paper* more horsepower. Both it and this new N74 are under-rated...not sure by how much in this case, will have to see real world quarter mile trap speeds. But it's safe to say they're like about the same. Torque, yes, the AMG motor has the higher peak figure. But this makes torque over a wider range. Also...you really think this engine is even trying at this output level? The thing has a *horsepower plateau* - which means it's tuned so conservatively that it can make the same power level over a 500 rpm range...they actually are limiting the power level, at that point. And the torque curve is flatter than Kansas. This thing has tons and tons left in it with merely a tune and 93 octane. Imagine it with some bolt-ons and maybe bigger turbos...won't even be close. It's a 6.6 liter engine with two turbos...this is just the starting point. This car will be one of the biggest performance bargains in history...it's far cheaper than an S63 with the same equipment level, about the same price as an S8 Plus, but has an engine that will likely cross into the 4 figure power output level with minimum work.
        Wasn't this what I was saying? Hmm...
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Aaron Click here to enlarge
        I'm not talking about potential, though I'll agree the BMW has it, obviously. BMW doesn't design engines for potential, they design them to sell cars, plain and simple. If it was about potential, every newer turbo 6 would've been designed completely different than they were. The N54 has a pretty $#@!ty list of components, not unlike the 65 AMG. But it has, and BMW knew it would, strong aftermarket support.

        And guys don't buy this car to mod it to the moon and back. They buy it and hire a black guy to drive them.

        BMW would've been much wiser to drop the displacement a couple liters, make the engine smaller/lighter, and keep everything else. Same power, same torque, better fuel economy.
        You're just not getting it man.

        This is a motor for Rolls Royce vehicles. They are big, heavy, and expected to have gobs of torque everywhere. It isn't tuned for big power but a big, wide, flat curve.

        You clearly don't understand the M275 design or what the goals of the N74 are.

        A N54 can make the same power as this N74B66. So what? Meaningless.

        If you want a smaller and lighter motor they have something called the N63. It will not deliver the power in the same manner or in a manner fitting for a Rolls Royce.
      1. 93siro's Avatar
        93siro -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Aaron Click here to enlarge
        Huh, the Federal Government puts the m760's fuel economy at 16. They're probably lying, it's Hillary's fault. Right?

        So all that advanced $#@!, and it didn't do anything. Nice.
        I used european cycle numbers. Anyways, S65 rating is 15. 1 is not much, but still its BETTER not worse than the S65 which you kept stated otherwise.

        Honestly i dont get your arguement here. You are angry because they didn't use the engine's full potential and instead made a understressed engine with effortless power delivery?
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by 93siro Click here to enlarge
        Honestly i dont get your arguement here. You are angry because they didn't use the engine's full potential and instead made a understressed engine with effortless power delivery?
        Along with disagreement for the sake of disagreement.

        BMW doesn't know how to build an impressive V12. Ask McLaren about that.