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    • Top Gear bullshits a 1/2 mile drag race - Tesla Model 3 Performance vs. BMW F80 M3 vs. Mercedes-AMG W205 C63 S vs. Alfa Romeo Giulia Quadrifoglio

      Top Gear decided to compare four popular performance sport sedans in a straight line. The straight line game being the main game for Teslas. At least Top Gear recognizes this and they made the drag race longer so as not to tailor it to the low end torque strength of electric cars like others do to make a headline.


      A 1/2 mile is more like it. Yet, Top Gear still fudged the whole thing for fake drama.

      Now, the Tesla gets a huge lead and it does not look like any of the other cars truly launched. This is obviously sensationalized which is a bit lame.

      Right on cue the Mercedes-AMG C63 S starts to run the Tesla down. It is a photo finish. A manufactured photo finish.

      You're better than this Top Gear. Also try including some actual performance metrics for the cars involved.

      Don't insult our intelligence.


      This article was originally published in forum thread: Top Gear bullshits a 1/2 mile drag race - Tesla Model 3 Performance vs. BMW F80 M3 vs. Mercedes-AMG W205 C63 S vs. Alfa Romeo Giulia Quadrifoglio started by Sticky View original post
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      1. DJB's Avatar
        DJB -
        New here, researching tuners for a recently purchased ICE car. We also have a Tesla M3P. There is quite a bit of miss information and half truths in this thread re electric cars, the comparative energy density, performance etc..


        First, stating that a gallon of gas has X amount of energy without talking about the other half, efficiency, is nonsense. Gas engine efficiency is ~20-35%. Electric motors are in the 80-90%. ...


        Some data from a cleantechnica article titled "electric-car-myth-buster-efficiency" that paints a different picture: (apparently too new here to post links)


        "In a recent post for Quora, Brian Feldman, a robotics expert and entrepreneur, offered this explanation: “Consider the Tesla Model S, which has an available 85 kWh battery and a 265 mile range. Consider a similar gas-powered car, which gets 35 mpg. Gasoline contains about 33 kWh of energy per gallon. The Tesla uses 320 Wh/mile of energy (85 kWh/265 miles). The gas powered car uses 940 Wh/mile of energy (33 kWh/35 miles). Once the energy is on board (not counting the efficiency of the power generation, oil refining, or charging), the Tesla is using only about a third as much energy as the comparable gasoline-powered car.”"


        The Tesla Model 3 has a gas equivalence of ~120 mpge when driven like a regular car, but can still do 0-60 in the low 3 second range and a quarter mile in the 11s. They are very quick and they dont hold a candle when compared to a Tesla Model S P100D that is a large 5000lb luxury sedan that will do 0-60 in 2.4 seconds and a quarter mile deep in the 10s totally stock on street tires with a full interior.


        There is plenty of additional data out there regarding their performance, and its still very early for electric cars.


        We have solar and virtually all of our electricity is generated with it, including charging the Model 3 that is driven roughly 20,000 miles a year. Charging on the road at a supercharger, will replenish ~ 80% of the range in less than 30 minutes which we virtually never need to do. Probably 95% of our Tesla’s electricity is generated by the solar on our house.


        My wife and I love our performance ICE cars, but the Model 3P is truly a blast to drive, and certainly not boring. Reality is electric cars are coming, the performance is real and Tesla is leading the pack by a WIDE margin.


        With that said, there is still a ways to go with electric cars with regards to cost and convenience, especially as it applies to longer trips. Even so, there is certainly a place for (performance) electric cars now.
      1. quattr0's Avatar
        quattr0 -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by DJB Click here to enlarge
        We have solar and virtually all of our electricity is generated with it, including charging the Model 3 that is driven roughly 20,000 miles a year. Charging on the road at a supercharger, will replenish ~ 80% of the range in less than 30 minutes which we virtually never need to do. Probably 95% of our Tesla’s electricity is generated by the solar on our house.


        My wife and I love our performance ICE cars, but the Model 3P is truly a blast to drive, and certainly not boring. Reality is electric cars are coming, the performance is real and Tesla is leading the pack by a WIDE margin.
        Great for you that you have solar panel and it works for you. It doesn't mean that it works for everyone else.

        And if you said driving an electric car is a blast then....more power to you.