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    • What you need to be aware of regarding Wedge Performance/Ken Atkinson dangerous tuning practices and blown motors

      Before we begin, everyone blows motors. Everyone. It is not always the fault of the tuner. It could be a hardware failure or even factory defect. In this case though, there is ample evidence that the tuner in question has dangerous tuning practices which have resulted in several blown engines due to said unsafe tuning.


      Need proof? Good. That is what BimmerBoost will provide.

      By the way, this is not a new topic by any means. It is well known on this forum and in various BMW tuning circles that Wedge/Ken learned on other people's motors. Read this thread from 2015 if you like with 15 pages of details.

      Not much has changed in 2019.

      So what happened that suddenly Wedge Tuning is in the spotlight when it shouldn't be? He is going after RFP Tuning slandering him online. Wedge is known to say RFP suffers from PTSD and is a terrible tuner. Frankly, insulting someone online who served this country is despicable at best and cowardly at worst.

      Why the insults? Because RFP is giving tuning away for free. Literally, for free. The gravy train is over. You can go and download RFP maps right here that can potentially be much better than what you buy from Wedge Tuning. Even if you do not come to that conclusion RFP still provides free tuning materials so you can learn to tune yourself and cut the middleman out entirely. Who would be angry with that? The ultimate middle man Ken Atkinson.

      Here's proof:

      PLEASE BE AWARE!!!I usually don't like to call out other people but this is absurd. This log was sent to me by someone who is very concerned. The current tune is not simply "unsafe" it's extremely dangerous. If you look closely you shall see that the rail pressure (HPFP) is crashing, LPFP still maintains the pressure BUT... Take a look at the timing. There are no corrections. The only reason there would be no corrections is if the KNOCK TABLES we're extremely relaxed (desensitized).

      Boost never hits the target and trims (STFT bank 1 and bank 2) are completely maxed out and in dangerous area.

      This tune is a prime example of how the motor blows up and then the "tuner" blames the owner.

      Courtesy of Ken@WedgePerformance
      #StillBlowingMotors



      More:


      Let's begin with his shit tuning and Customer service. I would like for customer to remain private as they don't want any drama.

      Example 1. *********: They blamed the engine but this is how it happened. After this lean run the car couldn't go past 6000rpm without misfiring anymore. Continuing the problem they did the pulls next morning and due to all the lean condition, timing shit show of afr and crashing HPFP lifted his head and destroyed his bearings. The other point of concern is how low the HPFP pressure, how lean the car and how much the timing and boost - MEANING the knock sensors are reduced to nothing which is very dangerous for one, and two there should be HUGE correction on Ign going on to protect motor. However as you shall see..... barely anything, concluding that knock sensors are desensitized extensively. Nadeem tried to get warranty from MMP but tune was shit so warranty got denied and that is where Ken blamed MMP for bad motor to protect himself. Logs say otherwise!
      More:

      This is recent Log I have gotten today. The person's car is dangerously close to permanent damage "it will fucking blow- I said that".

      The problem here is same old patter, HPFP afr AND the usually suspect... minimal timing corrections even in dangerous condition. Why? You may ask... Knock tables are relaxed quiet a bit as well.

      The response to this from Ken was: "Get the O2 sensor readers and different boost controller" After months of no Support (since Sep 2018) he finally did get the JB4 and few other things .... Nothing changed, tune is still shit.
      Log:


      Same car before going to JB4:


      Another Fresher log. This one I think is "OK" but again HPFP crash under full boost and almost no timing corrections which means knock sensitivity decreased heavily:


      Some might say, hey, that is all old stuff. No, this is the more recent alarming trends. No doubt there are good tunes out there by Wedge but the problem is the bad tunes he is too lazy to fix or care about. Basically, if things go wrong it's not his problem and the support is terrible.

      Here, read how it went for someone trying to get support:


      Log:


      As already stated, this is nothing new. Plenty of people said RFP was just making things up so there you have a bit of evidence and there is more where that came from should it prove necessary. Plus RFP certainly didn't make up the thread from four years ago detailing these same issues. A coincidence? Not at all.

      There are plenty of reputable tuners to choose from. Why choose one with terrible service who doesn't care about your motor? Why choose someone who learned on other people's motors?

      At the very least here is some evidence so you can make your own informed decision. The tribalism with tuners is very prevalent on social media and should be challenged just as you read. Be careful...

      You have much to learn Wedge is not credible. That's not an opinion but a fact. There's a long line of cars he's works on being tuned incorrectly and PLAINLY DANGEROUS.

      I looked at a log on N54tech several months ago where Wedge had one of his 15 timing curves on. I SAW 20 TIMING CORRECTIONS IN THE LOG. THAT MOTOR WAS IN PIECES.. unfortunately I didn't look the logs until after his MOTOR was BLOWN UP.

      That's one of 2 personal stories that only I personally know about. No one else worked with the two people I helped so I can categorically PUT 2 BLOWN MOTORS on him that no one else can count.
      Or don't. Up to you.

      This article was originally published in forum thread: RFP calls out Ken Atkinson's (Wedge Performance) dangerous N54 tuning practices (blown motors) started by Sticky View original post
      Comments 85 Comments
      1. Yamahar1's Avatar
        Yamahar1 -
        Wow
      1. Urmom's Avatar
        Urmom -
        Am I seeing this correctly ??
        27 psi
        15.7 :1 AFR
        16 Timing ??
      1. F87Source's Avatar
        F87Source -
        Man those are some lean afrs, could cause some piston damage. IIRC stoichiometric is 14.7:1, so that's approaching idle-hyperlean afrs.
      1. Brule's Avatar
        Brule -
        Always more to a story.

        I have never dealt with wedge before but no tuner or enthuisiast would ever aim for those afrs.

        What about the owner of the car?
        Wouldnt of put bigger turbos on and done a wot pull?
        O2 sensors stuffed?
        Using domeone elses tune?


        No tuner or enthuiast would leave a tune like this.
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Brule Click here to enlarge
        I have never dealt with wedge before but no tuner or enthuisiast would ever aim for those afrs.
        More is coming...
      1. ajehoti's Avatar
        ajehoti -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
        More is coming...
        I reviewed the data log with RFP, and I also stated that everything here is incorrect. Back in the day people were saying that I was blowing the motors and $#@! but the truth is really coming out now. RFP is solid and I can definitely vouch that my work has also tenfolded as well.

        i would have NEVER released a Client like this. That’s just asking for trouble, I guess add one to another list of blown wedge tuned motors that were swept under the rug for so many years.
      1. Dean@RFP's Avatar
        Dean@RFP -
        Ken has been called out since 2015. There is another thread by Tony from VTT as well
      1. threetirtyfive's Avatar
        threetirtyfive -
        Bs.
        There is more to this story and origin of that tune. Ken also wouldn't release a pump tune with a log like that.
      1. F87Source's Avatar
        F87Source -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by threetirtyfive Click here to enlarge
        Bs.
        There is more to this story and origin of that tune. Ken also wouldn't release a pump tune with a log like that.
        Maybe, I would like to give the benefit of the doubt to Ken as well, however I have heard alot of questionable tuning methods (desensitizing knock sensors etc), and countless blow engines from him in the past so I would not put this past him. However I would also not like to accuse him of anything until further proof on both sides are provided.
      1. Sticky2's Avatar
        Sticky2 -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by F87Source Click here to enlarge
        Maybe, I would like to give the benefit of the doubt to Ken as well, however I have heard alot of questionable tuning methods (desensitizing knock sensors etc), and countless blow engines from him in the past so I would not put this past him. However I would also not like to accuse him of anything until further proof on both sides are provided.
        It’s a bit to compile but it is coming.
      1. F87Source's Avatar
        F87Source -
        Yeah that's great to hear.

        I'm just glad I found twisted tuning, versed in ecutek, mhd, bm3 and is a great tuner. I read the mhd manual and I believe they said he makes the ots maps too which is fantastic.
      1. Sticky2's Avatar
        Sticky2 -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by F87Source Click here to enlarge
        Yeah that's great to hear.

        I'm just glad I found twisted tuning, versed in ecutek, mhd, bm3 and is a great tuner. I read the mhd manual and I believe they said he makes the ots maps too which is fantastic.
        Hmm you would think he prefers a certain software. Supposedly MHD is getting some big updates.
      1. Aus335iGuy's Avatar
        Aus335iGuy -
        I thought Wedge did OTS MHD maps ?
      1. threetirtyfive's Avatar
        threetirtyfive -
        Wedge did the original ots maps with pureboost doing the s55 onwards maps
      1. threetirtyfive's Avatar
        threetirtyfive -
        *n55 onwards done by pureboost, can't edit above post.
        He's also doing the b58 beta right now.
      1. F87Source's Avatar
        F87Source -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky2 Click here to enlarge
        Hmm you would think he prefers a certain software. Supposedly MHD is getting some big updates.
        Flexibility is also the key to being a great tuner, plus he has cobb tuning certifications as well. If he's able to tune across so many different platforms and software without issues then it certainly hints at his capability. Maybe he does have preferences but it's great he is able to help so many users.

        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Aus335iGuy Click here to enlarge
        I thought Wedge did OTS MHD maps ?
        Wedge for n54, E series N55 is twisted tuning (I believe he has an E series n55 which has a different ecu than the F series so probably why he makes those maps), F series n55 and S55 is Pure boost.

        Here are the links:
        N54: http://mhdtuning.com/downloads/MHD%2...ER%20GUIDE.pdf
        E series n55: http://mhdtuning.com/downloads/MHD%2...ER%20GUIDE.pdf
        F series N55 + S55: http://mhdtuning.com/guides/MHD%20FL...ER%20GUIDE.pdf

        Scroll down to the section about OTS maps.

        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by threetirtyfive Click here to enlarge
        Wedge did the original ots maps with pureboost doing the s55 onwards maps
        Wedge for n54 only, pureboost for F series, twisted for E series n55 (as explained above).

        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by threetirtyfive Click here to enlarge
        *n55 onwards done by pureboost, can't edit above post.
        He's also doing the b58 beta right now.
      1. WedgePerformance's Avatar
        WedgePerformance -
        This is clearly an attempt by Dean and Joseph (Sticky) to libel my name. When you tune hundreds of cars per year you are bound to have a few cars that have mechanical issues. At the boost levels shown you drop a secondary pump and trims will max out and rail pressure will drop. The only ignorance here is the two idiots that posted this garbage and the people who buy into this nonsense. The people involved with this libel post are only showing you parts of the log that make it look bad. I'm assuming the log with the high timing was our recent 1/4 world record car which had a few logs that went lean because of HPFP issues. The image quality is just bad enough I can't validate, but the fact that this timing is never used outside of cars running race fuel it must be a log from Joel's car. Cars that are running race gas maps have only one purpose, and was accomplished with a stock turbo 10.6s pass and a 10.2s pass with nitrous. So before anyone passes judgement on me look at the source.
      1. Rob@RBTurbo's Avatar
        Rob@RBTurbo -
        So is it true this referring to the OE Turbo featherweight record car? If so it sounds like there are many things to consider, as this would not be a run of the mill custom tuned car yet rather one that is "sending it" for the sake of records. When doing these things anything can happen outside the control of the tuner and is an implied risk of pushing boundaries IMO.
      1. Dean@RFP's Avatar
        Dean@RFP -
        This is not a world record car, this is one many you blew. There are more logs and pictures and references compiling. More info IS coming.
      1. Dean@RFP's Avatar
        Dean@RFP -
        After the post, logs began to pour in from Ken's customers. Here is a good one:
        Blow these things up and blame the turbos. Seems like unsafe practices are very common with Wedge
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