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  • langsbr's Avatar
    Today, 06:07 PM
    Well, yeah it was all V8s, but not old junk. ZR1s, Hellcats, Mustangs, and even Ls-swap and turbo RX7s. It was just surprising to me how insanely fast street cars are now. I mean, 130 is pretty dang fast, but there wasn't even a point. Held my own against the GTRs though, which I was happy about.
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  • nbrigdan's Avatar
    Today, 02:44 PM
    I love how the roll racing is pretty much always done in the wrong gear, but almost certainly at too low of a speed as well. What's the point of doing a roll where the speed is so low that you're going to get wheel spin anyways....isn't the whole reason you do a roll to avoid that problem?
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  • Sticky's Avatar
    Today, 02:31 PM
    The Audi C7 S6 continues to show what a performance tuning value it is. This C7 S6 EA824 4.0 TFSI V8 is running the Dyno Spectrum DS1 Stage 1 pump E85 tune. That is it. No additional custom tuning or fueling upgrades here. The result? A very nice 11.3 @ 120.02 software only: Now, the car is not far off breaking into the 10's but it will likely take some fuel system upgrades to get there. It certainly will be interesting to see if a C7 S6 or S7 do break into the 10's on the factory turbochargers. The platform certainly is on the doorstep.
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  • Sticky's Avatar
    Today, 01:36 PM
    I'd bet that's all cheap American muscle though. Domestics will always win the drag game. If using a BMW don't try going up against some unlimited class. Fight in your weight class.
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  • G0TB00ST?'s Avatar
    Today, 01:23 PM
    Ok maybe saying it derived might be a bit strong but you said they have nothing in common then list 3 things they have in common: cylinder count, aspiration and block material... sounds like they have a few things in common block material being a big one. I never said a v8 m3 didn't exist first I said the s85 came before the s65. Now unless you know something I don't the m3 gtr does not have the s65 in it. Let's keep things in context. Now the s65 probably shares some components with this engine, but its not the same engine. Just like the s85 shares some things from the f1 engines but obviously are not the same. Playing catch up with Porsche for one. BMW couldn't compete with na 6 cylinders anymore. There was no more room for displacement/ power with the s54 set up (evidence by the m3 gtr) and bmw had to up their engine size if they were going to continue to lead the pack. Maybe saying "playing catch up" was a bit strong but they went v8 because they had too; the s54 just wasn't going to cut it. Like you state in your article https://www.bimmerboost.com/showthread.php?1165-S54-vs-S65-Overview-history-comparison-and-power-potential BMW had to go v8. The n54 to my knowledge was the first GASOLINE commercially available turbo engine bmw produced. The discussion isn't on diesel engines nor is it on race engines... I'm not really sure where you were going with this. We are talking about gasoline street engines and you bring up motorsport engines and diesels? As I said the s65 is s85 lite... regardless of which was developed first the s85 was released first. Not sure what point you are trying to make here? This is a list you created on top M motors. So its your preference (correct me if I'm wrong) but thats not fact. Ok let me clear in saying Im not comparing the s65 to all engines across all makes and models for all of time. I am talking about 3 cars specifically and their relation to each other forgive me if that wasn't made clear from the jump. For the record I am not a n54 fan boy nor am I a s65 hater they are all great engines and all play second fiddle to the almighty s54. I will be the first to admit I am an unapologetic s54 fan boy. These were just my thoughts...
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  • langsbr's Avatar
    Today, 01:04 PM
    I'm in podunk South Carolina and thought my 130 trap car would be competitive in a street car challenge. Nope. Hell, even the stick car class guys were trapping over 150. Made me sad.
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  • Sticky's Avatar
    Today, 12:34 PM
    This is where your analysis goes wrong. The S85 V10 is not F1 derived. It has nothing in common with a BMW Formula 1 motor other than cylinder count and aspiration. The only thing it shared was the block material. Exceptionally light, but not strong. It makes sense as the idea is to build it for racing where every gram matters. A V8 M3 existed well before the S85 V10. I broke this all down in what is IMO my best work, here, S54 vs. S65: https://www.bimmerboost.com/showthread.php?1165-S54-vs-S65-Overview-history-comparison-and-power-potential How was the S65 V8 playing catch up? They built it to race. Race they did. Win they did. To whom did they have to catch up to? BMW was the benchmark at the time. Furthermore, the N54 is not the first mass produced turbo six-cylinder BMW motor. BMW produced tons of turbo six-cylinder diesels and before then turbocharged six-cylinder motors in the 70's and 80's for Motorsport. Sure the S65 and S85 share architecture. The same bore x stroke, same block material, same cylinder spacing, same almost everything. One powers a 5-Series and one powers a 3-Series. Was BMW really expected to just skip from 4.0 liters to 5.0 liters when racing Porsche? You already had Porsche kicking and screaming that they were getting their asses kicked with the V8. I place the S65 V8 fourth all time among M motors behind the S85 and S54: https://www.bimmerboost.com/content.php?6689-All-time-ranking-of-BMW-M-engines-Best-production-BMW-Motorsport-motors-list It certainly is special and a V8 M3 is special as we'll never see one again. How many 100+ hp per liter naturally aspirated factory V8's can you name? The Ferrari 355, 360, 430, and 458. The Ford GT350 (which came out a decade later). Audi R8/RS4 4.2 V8 (which also came later). SLS AMG Black Series M159. That's it... How many of those came in a car with actual rear seats and daily useability? 3 How many of those won ALMS? 1 How many of those had independent throttle bodies? 1 The S65 won the International Engine of the Year award for the 3.0 to 4.0 L category in 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011 and 2012. It's special. Really special.
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  • G0TB00ST?'s Avatar
    Today, 11:54 AM
    My cousin and I recently had a conversation about a very similar topic the other day, just more focused on the 335i value side of things. Iíd like to share my thoughts on the matter, but for starters let me say I currently daily an e90 335i (my cousin has an e92), and before the 335 I had an E46 M3. Iím not surprised the e9x m3 has held its value so well, I am a little surprised its done this well... Iíd say better than the e46 m3. The e46 (with a few exceptions) started to sink like a rock for a minute, but the e9x never seemed to have that same depreciation hit. Your hard pressed to find a clean e9x m3 with decent miles for under 25k. 25k seems to be the starting price to get in the game where as the e46 had a time when you could get a good example in the high teens (which has obviously changed). I agree the e9x m3 is special, but unpopular opinion I donít think its that special, its just a v8 m3. Iím not saying that to down play it, (Itís probably going to be my next car) but the s65 is a neutered s85 and thats it. The s85 is special, the s54 is special and I would also say the n54 is special. All of those engines in my opinion were age changers where as the s65 was bmw playing keep up. The s85 was a f1 derived v10, the s54 was the most hardcore NA inline 6 BMW has/ will ever develop and the n54 is the first mass produced turbo 6 bmw has ever made. I personally cant call the s65 special in that regard... the s65 has its own accomplishments sure but as an engine its a s85 lite. Engine aside, the e9x m3 is the best looking of them all and I believe one of the best total packages BMW ever made. When it comes to the 335i I feel like YouTube has killed the value for these cars. Iím passively looking to sell my car and everyone wants a 5k bmw like some youtuber they saw and make a million horsepower for the price of a happy meal. In my opinion the M cars are true enthusiast cars and the 335i is a tuner car which attracts all kinds of other people. I personally think the 2jz comparisons are silly but I get the reasoning behind it, however I feel like the the 335 has become the new dodge neon. People are buying poor examples slapping some parts on there making glory runs on the dyno and trying to race everything on the street till the motor fails. It really sucks the car has been branded as this budget way to big whp when in reality its still a bmw with bmw costs when something breaks and for those of us who actually take care of our cars we are penalized by this trend. I sold my 88 e30 vert for what people have seriously offered for my 335i and my e90 is a cleaner/ better car in every way as a daily (love my e30 to pieces no disrespect). Sorry this turned into a slight rant, but its just mind blowing to me the 335i has gone from the m killer to just another 3 series. However when you look at the e46 330 zhp they seem to hold firm around the 10k mark for a good example. And sorry for any typos, I wrote this on my phone on the fly, but itís something that really relevant to me right now and I had to just get my thoughts out.
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  • Sticky's Avatar
    Today, 11:37 AM
    If you are driving around in a bright yellow Lamborghini Urus do you really need more attention? Well, if you do Vorsteiner is where you can go to in order to make your $250k+ Lamborghini SUV stand out even more. It would embarrassing pulling in to pick the kids up after a soccer game next to another stock Urus, wouldn't it? Here are the pieces: UX-07 EDIZIONE AERO BONNET CARBON FIBER PP 2X2 GLOSSY Carbon MSRP: $9,495 UX-07 EDIZIONE AERO DECKLID SPOILER CARBON FIBER PP 2X2 GLOSSY Carbon MSRP: $2,095 UX-07 EDIZIONE AERO FENDER FLARES CARBON FIBER PP 2X2 GLOSSY Carbon MSRP: $5,295 UX-07 EDIZIONE AERO FRONT AIRDUCTS CARBON FIBER PP 2X2 GLOSSY Carbon MSRP: $1,595 UX-07 EDIZIONE AERO FRONT SPOILER CARBON FIBER PP 2X2 GLOSSY Carbon MSRP: $5,295 UX-07 EDIZIONE AERO REAR AIR DUCTS CARBON FIBER PP 2X2 GLOSSY Carbon MSRP: $1,395 UX-07 EDIZIONE AERO REAR DIFFUSER CARBON FIBER PP 2X2 GLOSSY Carbon MSRP: $6,295 UX-07 EDIZIONE AERO ROOF SPOILER CARBON FIBER PP 2X2 GLOSSY Carbon MSRP: $3,195 UX-07 EDIZIONE AERO SIDE BLADES CARBON FIBER PP 2X2 GLOSSY Carbon MSRP: $6,295 That sure adds up in a hurry. Is it worth it? You be the judge.
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  • Sticky's Avatar
    Today, 11:07 AM
    I completely agree. You need to trap 150+ to be considered fast today. That doesn't mean a 130 trap or less car can't put some hair on your chest. :P
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  • Magnusk77's Avatar
    Today, 11:05 AM
    Where I live, having a 600 hp 3300 lb car can pretty much wipe anything on the street :laughing-rofl:
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  • langsbr's Avatar
    Today, 10:55 AM
    I have no doubt they are ridiculously fast, I'm just saying that sadly 1000whp now is really table stakes for a FAST car. With SBE LS turbos making 1200+ whp, and built setups capable of more, it's ridiculous how fast things have gotten. Our local street car challenge is not worth entering unless your car can go 8.50s. At the last even there were at least 20 cars that were competitive in that realm. Street cars too, not drag cars. So to me, saying that a single turbo N54 making 900whp is too fast and absolutely insane is hyperbole. :-D
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    Today, 10:17 AM
    Penfolds is just sublime. It's what immediately comes to mind when thinking of Aussie wine. I have yet to try the Grange... it's like a white whale that eludes me.
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    Today, 10:14 AM
    Completely agree here. With the turbo guys it's like a lightswitch at that power level and displacement. Nothing... nothing... holy shit what just happened? Are those tire marks mine? Why am I facing the wrong direction?
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    Today, 10:10 AM
    It's not hyperbole. We all understand no E9X will be record breaking. However, has anyone really driven one of these hard on the street at 600, 700, or 800 whp? It's a handful to say the last. I got on my car in second a few weeks back when it was cold out and promptly spun out (fortunately not hitting anyone or anything as nobody was around). On a 2nd to 3rd shift at WOT a week ago my heart skipped a beat as the rear end went squirrely before getting back in line. You have to respect the power. We're just spoiled with insane numbers in this tuning age. These cars aren't some AWD Huracan effortlessly putting the power down. RWD high power BMW's can and are a handful. The N54's with their rear end I'm sure can scare you more at 600 rwhp when the boost hits than many more powerful modern platforms designed to put that power down. That is what Marymil is saying. I remember when I first got my Porsche back with upgraded turbos thinking it was scary fast. I went to the track and realized that turbo torque can sure be deceptive. The 911 though at least with its weight bias and wide rear tires makes big torque pretty to easy to put down in 1st or 2nd without fear of going sideways.
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  • Sticky's Avatar
    Today, 10:05 AM
    That's exactly what I was trying to emulate with that post ;)
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    Today, 10:01 AM
    The LT5 from GM and the Predator V8 from Ford are the two powerplants at the top of the domestic game. The LT5 has an advantage in time on the market but considering both of these motors have TVS2650's from the factory we are going to see massive power from both in the aftermarket. The ZR1 does have an advantage in that it is lower weight. The GT500 has an advantage in that it has a dual clutch transmission and revs higher which means it can get aggressive with the gearing. LMR tuned this C7 ZR1 with their LMR1000 package which includes a cam upgrade. Let's just say it is roughly at 1000 crank but who knows the truth. With the GT500 we have a fairly good idea of its output. It's in the low 8XX wheel horsepower range tuned on E85 with more to come. Skip all the nonsense to the 13:00 minute mark to see the runs. The ZR1 is definitely quicker and pulls hard up top but the GT500 hangs in there in the lower gears initially and you can probably thank shift speed for that. It is going to be fun to watch these platforms go head to head as they evolve. Who will win? The person who spends the most money of course...
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    Today, 09:46 AM
    The LT5 from GM and the Predator V8 from Ford are the two powerplants at the top of the domestic game. The LT5 has an advantage in time on the market but considering both of these motors have TVS2650's from the factory we are going to see massive power from both in the aftermarket. The ZR1 does have an advantage in that it is lower weight. The GT500 has an advantage in that it has a dual clutch transmission and revs higher which means it can get aggressive with the gearing. LMR tuned this C7 ZR1 with their LMR1000 package which includes a cam upgrade. Let's just say it is roughly at 1000 crank but who knows the truth. With the GT500 we have a fairly good idea of its output. It's in the low 8XX wheel horsepower range tuned on E85 with more to come. Skip all the nonsense to the 13:00 minute mark to see the runs. The ZR1 is definitely quicker and pulls hard up top but the GT500 hangs in there in the lower gears initially and you can probably thank shift speed for that. It is going to be fun to watch these platforms go head to head as they evolve. Who will win? The person who spends the most money of course...
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