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    ICS Performance E36 Killer Bee 1,000whp+

    So you guys saw the ICS M Coupe, well that's the redheaded stepchild compared to the Killer Bee. All I can tell you is that this thing is epically gnarly. All the piping on this car is enormous - chances are good a small dog could easily crawl through.

    I believe the car is now running a top-mount manifold and making even more power, but here is the article from Turbo magazine.

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    damn man, what kinda boost makes 1025 wheel? 35? 40 lbs? the straight six is an awesome internally balaced design, a reason i love my n54. but it will never get to this power level i dont believe, unless HPF makes like a stage 4 or 5 lol!
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    The ITS GT80 (.96 A/R, 80mm comp. wheel) is set at 25psi for street driving on pump gas and 35-40psi for track duty on C16. I believe they're running an even bigger turbo on the new top-mount set-up, so 1,300whp shouldn't be too far off.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Turbology Click here to enlarge
    The ITS GT80 (.96 A/R, 80mm comp. wheel) is set at 25psi for street driving on pump gas and 35-40psi for track duty on C16. I believe they're running an even bigger turbo on the new top-mount set-up, so 1,300whp shouldn't be too far off.

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    Wow, I didn't know it was possible to be at 25psi on pump!
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by 503Alex Click here to enlarge
    Wow, I didn't know it was possible to be at 25psi on pump!
    I run my RSTI at 24psi on 93 pump.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Turbology Click here to enlarge
    I run my RSTI at 24psi on 93 pump.

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    That's impressive. What's the limit for 91 or 93?
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by 503Alex Click here to enlarge
    That's impressive. What's the limit for 91 or 93?
    Same question..

    Plus, whose car is this?

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    Amazing! That's a lot of power, but it looks like some decent turbo lag to go along with it

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by 503Alex Click here to enlarge
    That's impressive. What's the limit for 91 or 93?
    Truthfully depends on the particular motor as well as the fuel system more than actual octane I would say. More boost needs more fuel, so as long as the block is strong enough to handle the added pressure, and the pump/injectors can flow enough fuel to keep a healthy AFR, you're golden.

    Good example is the innumerable Supras that make 600whp+ on pump gas. However, those same cars do jump 100-200whp and sometimes even more on race gas, so let's not downplay the merits of octane entirely. I'm not a fan of race gas only because it's not easily accessible and creates an uneven playing field. Big power on pump gas is more impressive!
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
    Same question..

    Plus, whose car is this?
    I believe George personally owns the Killer Bee, but who knows how he has it titled for tax status etc.
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    Amazing! That's a lot of power, but it looks like some decent turbo lag to go along with it
    Lag is all relative in cases like this, 300 ft/lbs at 3600rpm is pretty speedy! But you're right - this graph is very Supra-esque.
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    I believe George is shooting for like 1500whp with the new turbo. Some crazy number... Click here to enlarge
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by BadBoostedBmwM3 Click here to enlarge
    I believe George is shooting for like 1500whp with the new turbo. Some crazy number... Click here to enlarge
    And I believe he'll hit it, as the last time I saw the car with the new top-mount, it was looking mighty 1500whp capable!
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    Is this car tuned on the factory ECU?

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by MSpiredM3 Click here to enlarge
    Is this car tuned on the factory ECU?
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    Spark energy is enhanced by an Electromotive high-capacity system that is used in accordance with the engine's tuning scheme: an Electromotive TEC3R. The TEC3 is the latest evolution of Electromotive's Total Engine Control line of engine management computers. Programmed via Electromotive's Windows-based WinTEC software, the TEC3 features digital direct ignition control, distributor-less ignition, four to 12 cylinder configuration, true sequential injection capability, programmable staged boost control, multiple injector drivers - so high- and low-impedance injectors can be used - and 100sps on-board data logging. ICS wired up the Electromotive system and tuned the combination on its Dynojet.
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    That car was what MADE ICS. Dr Kakeletris has a kind, New York based Albanian to thank for that. If it werent for THAT purchase, the rest of George's success wouldn't have followed. Gjergj owes him for the blessed car.
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Turbology Click here to enlarge
    The ITS GT80 (.96 A/R, 80mm comp. wheel) is set at 25psi for street driving on pump gas and 35-40psi for track duty on C16. I believe they're running an even bigger turbo on the new top-mount set-up, so 1,300whp shouldn't be too far off.

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    The turbocharger that was originally on there for the dyno numbers was a 74mm or 76mm I can't remember exactly; it has never run with the new turbo, and the new turbo was a GT47, not a GT80..

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Maciej Click here to enlarge
    The turbocharger that was originally on there for the dyno numbers was a 74mm or 76mm I can't remember exactly; it has never run with the new turbo, and the new turbo was a GT47, not a GT80..
    Did I just read that ICS used a 74 or 76mm turbo to reach OVER 1000 WHP?

    I don't think that is possible. Not even remotely possible.
    Any possible explanations here?
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Maciej Click here to enlarge
    The turbocharger that was originally on there for the dyno numbers was a 74mm or 76mm I can't remember exactly; it has never run with the new turbo, and the new turbo was a GT47, not a GT80..
    Correct - GT47-88.

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    Did I just read that ICS used a 74 or 76mm turbo to reach OVER 1000 WHP?

    I don't think that is possible. Not even remotely possible.
    Any possible explanations here?
    Very good point. However, the PT76GTS can easily make over 1000whp, even on a legit dyno. FWIW, ICS did not use this turbo on this car with any published numbers of which I am aware.

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    A PT76GTS to Achieve those numbers.

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    I'm getting very confused now.

    So the GT80 was not used? and a pt76gts was definitely not used (you're just toying with our heads now)

    So what turbo was used?
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    730whp on the ICS dyno with a PT71 GTQ - http://forums.bimmerforums.com/forum...d.php?t=341302

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Maciej Click here to enlarge
    The turbocharger that was originally on there for the dyno numbers was a 74mm or 76mm I can't remember exactly; it has never run with the new turbo, and the new turbo was a GT47, not a GT80..
    Good to see you here buddy, how's your foot?
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    Good to see you here buddy, how's your foot?
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    It's still attached to my leg lol, I can't complain, better than it was before but not as good as it was before the accident, all the while looking pretty screwed up Click here to enlarge

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Maciej Click here to enlarge
    It's still attached to my leg lol, I can't complain, better than it was before but not as good as it was before the accident, all the while looking pretty screwed up Click here to enlarge
    Glad to hear it man, can you drive anything with three pedals yet?
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    Yeah, in terms of driving Im perfectly back to normal, heel to toe and all

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Maciej Click here to enlarge
    Yeah, in terms of driving Im perfectly back to normal, heel to toe and all
    What's the next project since the Elise didn't work out and the 3000GT is gone?
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