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    I hear lots of thing sticky. Just leave it that. Most are poor rumors. AA headers look nothing like eBay. I had the eBay(good ones). AA better just not for the price.
    I've seen/had AA parts I've never seen poorly made stuff.

    We can say this about alot of companies. My eBay headers fit/looked just as good as supersprint header and stepped.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by BattaM3 Click here to enlarge
    I hear lots of thing sticky. Just leave it that. Most are poor rumors. AA headers look nothing like eBay. I had the eBay(good ones). AA better just not for the price.
    I've seen/had AA parts I've never seen poorly made stuff.

    We can say this about alot of companies. My eBay headers fit/looked just as good as supersprint header and stepped.
    Very true.

    The AA pieces I have seen looked nice. The E92 exhaust I haven't seen but from pics looks great.

    I hope you are right.
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by BattaM3 Click here to enlarge
    I hear lots of thing sticky. Just leave it that. Most are poor rumors. AA headers look nothing like eBay. I had the eBay(good ones). AA better just not for the price.
    I've seen/had AA parts I've never seen poorly made stuff.

    We can say this about alot of companies. My eBay headers fit/looked just as good as supersprint header and stepped.
    What I do give AA about thier S54 headers is the fact they recessed the holes for the nuts. The true ebay ones need longer studs. The rest, you can tell is tig'ed by a machine, the collector isn't truly efficient. There's room for improvement. But who am I to say that?
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by DLV-Engineering Click here to enlarge
    There's room for improvement. But who am I to say that?
    You are probably more qualified to say that than the rest of us are to say most of the things we say.
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    I'm not arguing with you DLV. Just talking. I've seen alot of s54 parts that looked well made. I know the sc kits perform but what do I know. Lol

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    DLV - thanks for saying what we've all thought over the years.

    Know all about the Lance and the new guy. Epic fail on the E92 custom dyno tunes we've seen.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by DLV-Engineering Click here to enlarge
    Idk if they do. but I know this fan boy from E46 fanatics adors them and hates me for re tuning a SC'ed 323i they did and I ended up making more HP than them. He said and i quote " How can you make more power by adding fuel?! " Easy kid.....The tune in it made a measly 193WHP on 8psi(18:1 AFR when it hit boost) We added the fuel it needed with some VANOS timing it was missing and kaboom, it made 283WHP -__- thats how - Simple knowledge of how engines need to work.

    AA is alright, some of the product they make are nice, the rest are simply over prices cr*p. But they aren't who they used to be and I'm not the only one who thinks that way. I normally don't down talk anyone, but they've screwed a few people I know over and I didn't like that. Its not how such a well known company should operate, nor would it be the way I would operate my shop.
    If you're referring to activ3 he's no fanboy, his family owns AA. David knows a lot about the kit and what it entails. I also think you took that quote out of context. As for the tune, in the past few years I've heard of peoples tunes not being right but it was mostly with zhp's. From what I've seen they've always helped the customer out.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by BrenM3 Click here to enlarge
    Epic fail on the E92 custom dyno tunes we've seen.
    You mean boosted or NA?
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    N/A, its documented on M3post. Pretty much describes what DLV said.

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    There's always someone to say this or that about a company. If we all listened we would all have stock cars. Not just referring to this thread but if people are going to talk about this and that they should have solid FACTs and proof.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by BattaM3 Click here to enlarge
    There's always someone to say this or that about a company. If we all listened we would all have stock cars. Not just referring to this thread but if people are going to talk about this and that they should have solid FACTs and proof.
    Yes, there should be solid details and proof. I think you may be going a bit extreme but so far what has been said seems to be pretty solid. Bren offered up proof of his statements for example...
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    Not talking these guys or this thread. Went OT a little. Most peoples stories are never from the people who own it. Always my sister cousins cable Joe car is messed up.

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    'at' Sticky

    Honestly you need to do better than this... Maybe a little more research or something you support but no one is ever going to respect this forum or any of your other forums if you continue to be the mediatakeout of car forums. I respect what you have done by bringing the FI community a forum of their own but I also know the way you are going about it... You love Drama and Hell so do I but this is pure BS. I really hope it brings the hits and traffic you need but spreading incorrect info is not the only way to do it.

    I also appreciate the support with our Press Releases etc, but egging/supporting a guy that has no idea what he is talking about is ridiculous...

    Sticky you know how to get in contact with me if you would like to talk.

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    Fact = Barry has been at Active Autowerke longer than me... Lance came in a few years after I started..... do the math. He assisted on a few special projects and NEVER touched E46 NON M SC Kits) .... (btw I am really good friends with Lance so I would tread lightly on this topic, FYI he is also one of only a few AEM Certified Advanced Tuners in this Country... something tells me he is a bit more advanced than you). Regarding the E46 323 tune... congrats, you accomplished nothing. Continue doing what you do but do not come on here making yourself sound like you have accomplished a thing by retuning one customers 323 SC system out of the 350+ 323 systems we have on the market. Throwing in the word 'Engineering' after your username doesn't make you anyone. I have nothing further to say to you on this forum so feel free to also contact me directly if you have any other questions or concerns ..... Good luck on your future endeavors but I would appreciate it if you keep our name off your fingertips....


    On a positive note I would like to thank everyone who came to the 2011 Active Autowerke Spring Social. We appreciate the continued support and if there is anything we can do to assist please let us know.... p.s. battaM3 thanks.

    Best Regards,

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Omar@activeautowerke.com Click here to enlarge
    Honestly you need to do better than this... Maybe a little more research or something you support but no one is ever going to respect this forum or any of your other forums if you continue to be the mediatakeout of car forums. I respect what you have done by bringing the FI community a forum of their own but I also know the way you are going about it... You love Drama and Hell so do I but this is pure BS. I really hope it brings the hits and traffic you need but spreading incorrect info is not the only way to do it.
    I understand you may be angry that people are allowed to say well, what they want about vendors, but take the high road and address it if it bothers you. The fact you are here and responding to this thread which was just created validates the forum and its traffic. I have nothing against you or Active Autowerke: http://www.bimmerboost.com/content.p...rates-30-years

    If you would like a list of all the positive coverage you have received while not being a vendor I will provide it for you. I respect Active's work in the community and recommend your products as well as encourage users to buy from our vendors who carry them.

    This isn't something thrown up on the front page to generate hits or views with some drama storm. This simply evolved out of a discussion on your Social event and in order to not contaminate your positive event that by all accounts everyone enjoyed it was moved somewhere else.

    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Omar@activeautowerke.com Click here to enlarge
    I also appreciate the support with our Press Releases etc, but egging/supporting a guy that has no idea what he is talking about is ridiculous...
    He says he has experience. How are we supposed to learn? People share what they know, it is how forums work. No one is bashing you simply discussing changes that may have taken place. You are more than free to address whatever concerns you have here. I don't know of another forum in the BMW community that would allow a vendor to do that without first paying for it. I think people respect that which is why we have grown the way we have and I also think it is a show of respect to all vendors to allow them to address things, period.

    I apologize if we are out of line somehow but I think the thread is fairly benign. I will gladly discuss your concerns over e-mail. I know how to contact you and have several times for more information on your products which as mentioned receive coverage. Thanks for the few positive words, they are appreciated.
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    Sent you an e-mail Omar to clear up any potential misunderstanding.
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    I'd post the link to the original fanatics thread, but I just registered and it says I need to wait a day. If anyone can find where I asked how more fuel can make more power, then DLV wins.

    Does nobody else agree that a SC'd motor running at 18:1 under boost would likely blow up on the first pull? For the record, I don't hate you DLV, but but I really don't like you'd intentionally mislead other people who really don't understand how a motor works. You know that issue with the 323 was more than a tune, yet persist that you're magical tuning fixed it.

    Sticky, on forums, people share what they think they know. Anyone can say that they have experience, but you know as well as I do that the majority of the guys who really know what they're talking about seldom post on online forums. I didn't join this forum initially, because I wanted to avoid all of the drama that comes with the tuner discussions, but when I'm called out and blatantly misquoted, it's annoying. The absolute truth will never be posted online. I've had in person (not online) discussions with Karl, Lance, Barry, NickG, Nik (VF), Osh (RMS), Zolti (autotalent/technik), and Alex and Arno (Gintani) and you'd be surprised how much they're willing to discuss when they realize that you know what you're talking about, and when they recognize that you're also a true enthusiast. I would never post a lot of what I've discussed with any tuner, and I'd never bash any of them for anything, including things I disagree with. We've all seen the video made about you, and I'm sure a lot of it was taken out of context. When it comes down to it, the people who need to know the truth, know the truth. The rest is just speculation.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by activ3 Click here to enlarge
    Does nobody else agree that a SC'd motor running at 18:1 under boost would likely blow up on the first pull? For the record, I don't hate you DLV, but but I really don't like you'd intentionally mislead other people who really don't understand how a motor works. You know that issue with the 323 was more than a tune, yet persist that you're magical tuning fixed it.
    So DLV was referring to you... ok, interesting. Are you guys enemies or something?

    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by activ3 Click here to enlarge
    Sticky, on forums, people share what they think they know. Anyone can say that they have experience, but you know as well as I do that the majority of the guys who really know what they're talking about seldom post on online forums. I didn't join this forum initially, because I wanted to avoid all of the drama that comes with the tuner discussions, but when I'm called out and blatantly misquoted, it's annoying. The absolute truth will never be posted online. I've had in person (not online) discussions with Karl, Lance, Barry, NickG, Nik (VF), Osh (RMS), Zolti (autotalent/technik), and Alex and Arno (Gintani) and you'd be surprised how much they're willing to discuss when they realize that you know what you're talking about, and when they recognize that you're also a true enthusiast. I would never post a lot of what I've discussed with any tuner, and I'd never bash any of them for anything, including things I disagree with. We've all seen the video made about you, and I'm sure a lot of it was taken out of context. When it comes down to it, the people who need to know the truth, know the truth. The rest is just speculation.
    People also share what they do know. Sure, if we just accept baseless comments as fact it is a bit absurd. That is why we have a discussion and you can voice your concerns and we as intelligent adults can come to a resolution.

    I hate when people blatantly say the wrong things as well, that is why this forum exists. So that the issues can be addressed without interference or censorship from the usual parties. I think you will find this is the one place where people are actually allowed to discuss whatever tuning topic they want to discuss for however long they want to discuss it. You are more than free to address what was written and I am glad you are.

    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by activ3 Click here to enlarge
    We've all seen the video made about you, and I'm sure a lot of it was taken out of context. When it comes down to it, the people who need to know the truth, know the truth. The rest is just speculation.
    Absolutely. I don't think out of context even qualifies as much as blind hatred/defamation but those who know the facts know the truth, just like you stated.

    What points specifically are you addressing here though? I agree with your line of thinking and general philosophy as expressed but what specifically do you feel is incorrect?
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    As far as I know we aren't enemies. He posted on fanatics in the thread about the 323 and I questioned it. His response included a stab at me as well as AA. My reply was kind enough, and he didn't respond again.

    He claimed that VANOS tuning to a setting other than stock reduced the AFRs enough to notice on the dyno. I asked how that was possible on a supercharged motor without a fluctuation in how much boost was measured at the intake manifold.

    Tomorrow when I'm able to post links I'll link to it. If you'd like to view it now, it's at http://forum.e46fanatics.com/showthread.php?t=782199

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    I added the link for you.

    I'll read it over.
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
    People also share what they do know. Sure, if we just accept baseless comments as fact it is a bit absurd. That is why we have a discussion and you can voice your concerns and we as intelligent adults can come to a resolution.

    I hate when people blatantly say the wrong things as well, that is why this forum exists. So that the issues can be addressed without interference or censorship from the usual parties. I think you will find this is the one place where people are actually allowed to discuss whatever tuning topic they want to discuss for however long they want to discuss it. You are more than free to address what was written and I am glad you are.
    The problem is that not everyone is an intelligent adult. The tuning topic is very sensitive. Everything thinks they're the best, and personally I believe that there is more drama between fanboys then there are between tuners. I was at bimmerfest 2009 and was involved in a discussion with AJ from ESS, Karl from AA, and Chris and John from HPF, and honestly, they were laughing the entire time, and even discussing things that I know they'd never post for the public to see. I'm all for the people that are trying to learn and develop skills to tune themselves, it's the drama and bashing that I dislike. Obviously the big name tuners may not be excessively fond of their competitors, but they all respect each other because they know that they all know what the deal is. Other companies who come in very aggressive and who quite frankly aren't as legitimate get devoured (i.e VF in the S54 market).

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    I started reading over the thread and DLV is basically speaking from his personal experience with the kit. He says it was at 18:1, you say that is impossible. Well, obviously at 18:1 a motor should blow right or at least be close to it.

    You also seem to attribute problems to the used parts and he attributes it to the tune. Maybe a little of both but I can't speculate, I was not there, and neither were you. DLV was though and I don't think he has some Active vendetta or anything like that.

    I don't really see anything all that bad in that thread. He also did not respond after your last post. I thought your response was very solid and there should have been a pressure change as you mentioned if the restriction was the charge piping.

    Also, you are quite right, not like AA would release kits with 18:1 air fuel and sell a bunch as people would have problems. So, something was wrong but what was it? Either way, a new tune and some changes cleaned it up. That does not mean it is a representation of every AA kit or that all AA kits have problems. We have seen enough with cars and tuning that EVERYONE has issues at some point and nobody is flawless/perfect.
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by activ3 Click here to enlarge
    The problem is that not everyone is an intelligent adult. The tuning topic is very sensitive. Everything thinks they're the best, and personally I believe that there is more drama between fanboys then there are between tuners. I was at bimmerfest 2009 and was involved in a discussion with AJ from ESS, Karl from AA, and Chris and John from HPF, and honestly, they were laughing the entire time, and even discussing things that I know they'd never post for the public to see. I'm all for the people that are trying to learn and develop skills to tune themselves, it's the drama and bashing that I dislike. Obviously the big name tuners may not be excessively fond of their competitors, but they all respect each other because they know that they all know what the deal is. Other companies who come in very aggressive and who quite frankly aren't as legitimate get devoured (i.e VF in the S54 market).
    True, not everyone is an intelligent adult and if they aren't we don't really want them to be a part of this community. Those that aren't have their home at fanatics or bimmerpost where they fit right in.

    I think you are attributing what you see on other sites to here. It is true that you need more experience with the forum. We have pretty good discussions with well informed individuals and are pretty devoid of the fanboys thankfully as they still haven't gotten wind of this place. It is also community moderated so trolls/fanboys are weeded out quickly as recently happened in an N54 thread. It's a different system and a different forum where the majority of the people are intelligent adults and enthusiasts. We really don't care about brands or posing, we care about fast cars and good info.
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
    I started reading over the thread and DLV is basically speaking from his personal experience with the kit. He says it was at 18:1, you say that is impossible. Well, obviously at 18:1 a motor should blow right or at least be close to it.

    You also seem to attribute problems to the used parts and he attributes it to the tune. Maybe a little of both but I can't speculate, I was not there, and neither were you. DLV was though and I don't think he has some Active vendetta or anything like that.

    I don't really see anything all that bad in that thread. He also did not respond after your last post. I thought your response was very solid and there should have been a pressure change as you mentioned if the restriction was the charge piping.

    Also, you are quite right, not like AA would release kits with 18:1 air fuel and sell a bunch as people would have problems. So, something was wrong but what was it? Either way, a new tune and some changes cleaned it up. That does not mean it is a representation of every AA kit.
    Agreed. I wasn't there, but I do know the owner of the car, and was at a local meet shortly after he purchased it. At that time he was very happy with it, much later this thread developed. I also understand that making changing to the cam timing through vanos can lead to more power. You want to adjust it so that you're achieving as little boost as possible (best flow through the head) without having it so that boost is blowing through the exhaust port. However, any significant adjustment to the cam timing would change the amount of manifold pressure on a belt driven supercharged car.

    Like I said, I have nothing against DLV but I feel that his first post here about me was way off.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
    True, not everyone is an intelligent adult and if they aren't we don't really want them to be a part of this community. Those that aren't have their home at fanatics or bimmerpost where they fit right in.

    I think you are attributing what you see on other sites to here. It is true that you need more experience with the forum. We have pretty good discussions with well informed individuals and are pretty devoid of the fanboys thankfully as they still haven't gotten wind of this place. It is also community moderated so trolls/fanboys are weeded out quickly as recently happened in an N54 thread. It's a different system and a different forum where the majority of the people are intelligent adults and enthusiasts. We really don't care about brands or posing, we care about fast cars and good info.
    Good to know. I'll take a look around then. I stopped posting in the tech sections on many forums because I feel that many of them have degraded so quickly.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by activ3 Click here to enlarge
    Good to know. I'll take a look around then. I stopped posting in the tech sections on many forums because I feel that many of them have degraded so quickly.
    A quick look around should restore your faith. A slow and steady brain drain is taking place with the technical guys moving here and well.... the crap staying where it is.
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