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    has an m3 ever not outperformed its previous generation?

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by LostMarine Click here to enlarge
    has an m3 ever not outperformed its previous generation?
    No.

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    then it has to do better than the 414hp current flagship.. add some power, drop some weight..

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by LostMarine Click here to enlarge
    then it has to do better than the 414hp current flagship.. add some power, drop some weight..
    You are correct, but the next C AMG will be playing with power at or above the level of the M5. You see the problem?

    The M3 can really go to where? The M5 at best will be a 124 trap car. That is moving, and pretty damn fast, so where can the M3 go? 116-117 or so? It will sort of be boxed in a corner because Mercedes will allow the C to outperform the E.

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    eh, but there is more to an M than the motor, so it just needs to perform well. doesnt need to outpower..in stock form.. to me at least.. but also needs potential to be a monster and not limited like my current ride..

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by LostMarine Click here to enlarge
    eh, but there is more to an M than the motor, so it just needs to perform well. doesnt need to outpower..in stock form.. to me at least.. but also needs potential to be a monster and not limited like my current ride..
    Very, very good point. It is all about the all around package. Guess we will wait and see?

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    I am looking forward to the new M3. Sure the C is a beast but I am cautiously optimistic about the new M.
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    M3 is about more than trap speeds.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Stahlgrau Click here to enlarge
    M3 is about more than trap speeds.
    Very true, but if it is outgunned in every aspect including that it will be... well, hard to go with the M3.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Stahlgrau Click here to enlarge
    M3 is about more than trap speeds.
    not to this crowd..

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by LostMarine Click here to enlarge
    not to this crowd..
    Seriously? A 335 owner with RB's lecturing this?

    How often have JB users equated M3 performance to short acceleration bursts?

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by LostMarine Click here to enlarge
    eh, but there is more to an M than the motor, so it just needs to perform well.
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    M3 is about more than trap speeds.
    Other brands are have been catching on to this. The competitors are getting better and better, in all aspects.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
    Seriously? A 335 owner with RB's lecturing this?

    How often have JB users equated M3 performance to short acceleration bursts?
    lol.. i knew it would get a reaction Click here to enlarge

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by M3_WC Click here to enlarge
    Other brands are have been catching on to this. The competitors are getting better and better, in all aspects.
    So, let me know when the RS4 and C63 AMG starts beating the M3 around tracks.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Stahlgrau Click here to enlarge
    So, let me know when the RS4 and C63 AMG starts beating the M3 around tracks.
    The C63 coupe will beat the M3 around the track...

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sinister M3 Click here to enlarge
    The C63 coupe will beat the M3 around the track...
    depends on the track , if it is full of corners i highly doubt C63 beats M3.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sinister M3 Click here to enlarge
    The C63 coupe will beat the M3 around the track...
    No it won't
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sorena Click here to enlarge
    depends on the track , if it is full of corners i highly doubt C63 beats M3.
    It's going to be close but the P31 C63 Coupe is going to be favored on longer courses.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
    It's going to be close but the P31 C63 Coupe is going to be favored on longer courses.
    i agree with that , but beside i'm a M3 fan C63 isn't a good choice for me. it's really hard to corner with C63 and unlike M3, C63's tail slides easily in corners. it surely sounds fun but it's hard to keep that thing in one piece

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sorena Click here to enlarge
    i agree with that , but beside i'm a M3 fan C63 isn't a good choice for me. it's really hard to corner with C63 and unlike M3, C63's tail slides easily in corners. it surely sounds fun but it's hard to keep that thing in one piece
    That is true but let's see if Mercedes has tweaked the C63 coupe suspension.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
    That is true but let's see if Mercedes has tweaked the C63 coupe suspension.
    i hope that too , if C63 smashes M3 i'll be really happy. maybe it makes those guys in M division to do something on m3

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sorena Click here to enlarge
    i hope that too , if C63 smashes M3 i'll be really happy. maybe it makes those guys in M division to do something on m3
    EXACTLY! I'm all for the C63 ripping the M3 a new $#@!. I'm hoping it wakes the M division up.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
    EXACTLY! I'm all for the C63 ripping the M3 a new $#@!. I'm hoping it wakes the M division up.
    Very well said. I am hoping the C63 does big damage to BMW and M3 drivers egos. Maybe then they wil make the e92 M3 CSL

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sinister M3 Click here to enlarge
    Very well said. I am hoping the C63 does big damage to BMW and M3 drivers egos. Maybe then they wil make the e92 M3 CSL
    The GTS and CSL are too close to one another so I think that is all we will get.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
    The GTS and CSL are too close to one another so I think that is all we will get.
    I hope they start selling it in US soon. They need to offer it in a variety of colors because I am not a fan of the orange in the Euro Spec GTS.

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