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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by LostMarine Click here to enlarge
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    I personally love having the most power available as early as i can. That way it is up to me on how to use it. I see no point in tuning for more power, and then not wanting it. If i don't want to use all 400+, then i don't apply 100%. But i guess thats just me
    Here the thing though, you have enough tq to rip apart the street tires or slicks either way. Having 380 vs 450 tq at 3k makes no difference, both will spin tires if you load up the car and floor it off a light.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Laloosh Click here to enlarge
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    Here the thing though, you have enough tq to rip apart the street tires or slicks either way. Having 380 vs 450 tq at 3k makes no difference, both will spin tires if you load up the car and floor it off a light.
    True... having torque at redline does make a big difference Click here to enlarge

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    Terry,

    I think this graph is a poor interpretation - they load at a completely different rpm, making it appear alot different. Poor dyno operating, and slightly left field marketing attempt Click here to enlarge

    While your torque curve is very AMG like and friendly to the right foot (personal preference) it definitely loads the rods harder and shocks drivetrain parts a bit more then a gradual roll on like Shiv or GIAC.

    I've run cars both ways on Subarus for years. The cars with the flat torque curves spun clutches and broke transmissions alot easier. They all popped at torque peak.

    The cars I locked the wg shut and ran a ton of boost as early as possible also torched the intercooler up sooner as I ran it hard down low - those cars tend to pull timing with the exact same specs as the cars that had a more gradual roll on.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by BrenM3 Click here to enlarge
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    Terry,

    I think this graph is a poor interpretation - they load at a completely different rpm, making it appear alot different. Poor dyno operating, and slightly left field marketing attempt Click here to enlarge

    While your torque curve is very AMG like and friendly to the right foot (personal preference) it definitely loads the rods harder and shocks drivetrain parts a bit more then a gradual roll on like Shiv or GIAC.

    I've run cars both ways on Subarus for years. The cars with the flat torque curves spun clutches and broke transmissions alot easier. They all popped at torque peak.

    The cars I locked the wg shut and ran a ton of boost as early as possible also torched the intercooler up sooner as I ran it hard down low - those cars tend to pull timing with the exact same specs as the cars that had a more gradual roll on.
    The customer tuned it how he wanted it. Having tried lots of various boost curves personally, I've found a nice level torque curve to be the most fun. And most of our customers agree. But those that don't can reshape it easily. Some prefer a huge torque lump down low and a heavy taper up top. To each their own. Click here to enlarge

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    Very Nice Terry! Click here to enlarge
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    The torque curve looks like all your other off the shelf maps. I'm not talking about whats most fun - i agreed its most pleasing however many of us found over time what ramping the boost down low can do to the car.

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    We used to have a "street tire" racing map that had stock like boost down load and ramped up to peak boost at 5500rpm. It was fun at times but in the end its just easier to press the gas pedal 1/2 way down low and all the way when you're ready. If you want to setup something like with the JB3 just set torque low like 20% and HP to 100%. Click here to enlarge

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