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    ESS supercharged 4.6 liter Vbox acceleration numbers

    Acceleration Data:

    0-60: 8.04 8.01 6.08 7.13 6.54

    60-130: 10.22 9.23 9.07 9.26 9.36

    1/8 Mile: 11.0 - 85.16 11.12- 87.52 9.49 - 92.48 10.37 - 90.02 9.82 -90.53

    1/4 Mile: 15.47 - 115.16 15.38 - 122.88 13.61 - 125.29 14.58 - 122.57 14.02 - 122.64

    1/2 Mile: 22.28 - 147.18 21.94 - 153.37 20.09 - 153.18 21.16 - 151.55 20.62 - 150.01

    3/4 Mile: 28.23 - 156.15 27.60 - 149.97 25.73 - 168.58 26.74 - 168.25 26.30 - 164.66

    1-Mile: 34.15 - 151.48 33.64 -152.26 30.84 - 182.47 31.91 - 179.51 31.57 - 176.27

    I mean, say you what you want. 125 mph trap with no consistency on the Vbox for a built larger displacement motor and stripped out car on C16?

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    Definitely was expecting better 60-130 times... Hell, i ran a 6.8 on 91 oct low boost with crappy traction...

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    We can't compare those 60-130 times really because:

    a) The car was ran from a dead stop, which builds up more heat than starting from lets say 45MPH.
    b) It was a decently higher altitude
    c) There was a documented strong head wind
    d) Their efforts weren't based on extrapolating the best 60-130 time.

    I agree the 60-130 times should be much better from what we have seen from other S/C e92's, but based on the above, I wouldn't really count those as a 100% attempt of obtaining the best 60-130 time for that car.

    The one thing we can compare from the numbers above are the 1/4 trap speeds. I do think the traps should be slightly higher, even with the disadvantages I mentioned above.
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    Honestly, as you mentioned, forget the 60-130 for this but definitely look at the trap speeds.

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    also on stock rims and tires...absolutely no grip at all im sure
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by sammyrusso Click here to enlarge
    also on stock rims and tires...absolutely no grip at all im sure
    Very good point.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by MSpiredM3 Click here to enlarge
    We can't compare those 60-130 times really because:

    a) The car was ran from a dead stop, which builds up more heat than starting from lets say 45MPH.
    b) It was a decently higher altitude
    c) There was a documented strong head wind
    d) Their efforts weren't based on extrapolating the best 60-130 time.

    I agree the 60-130 times should be much better from what we have seen from other S/C e92's, but based on the above, I wouldn't really count those as a 100% attempt of obtaining the best 60-130 time for that car.

    The one thing we can compare from the numbers above are the 1/4 trap speeds. I do think the traps should be slightly higher, even with the disadvantages I mentioned above.
    I actually read the altitude was not high, it was 325 feet or something.
    EDIT: Looking at the Vbox it shows about 2600 feet. This should have an effect on the times however lots of people run their times at elevation (i know i did).

    They posted the vbox file, i will dissect it alittle and compare them. I can see if he is losing traction during the run as well. I highly doubt he is at 60+ mph with decent street tires. I have old ps2's and i caught grip after prob 80ish and thats with more power and tq.

    As far as heat build up, shouldnt make too much difference. They can actually get better 60-130 times since they were already accelerating well before 60mph. (I usually start at 55mph)

    But i agree they are not 100% times but they are still not good. The head winds dont help as well. They actually ran a very similiar time to JT's SC E46 M3 (he was on pump with passenger, full weight etc..)
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by TaZaM3 Click here to enlarge
    I actually read the altitude was not high, it was 325 feet or something.
    EDIT: Looking at the Vbox it shows about 2600 feet. This should have an effect on the times however lots of people run their times at elevation (i know i did).

    They posted the vbox file, i will dissect it alittle and compare them. I can see if he is losing traction during the run as well. I highly doubt he is at 60+ mph with decent street tires. I have old ps2's and i caught grip after prob 80ish and thats with more power and tq.

    As far as heat build up, shouldnt make too much difference. They can actually get better 60-130 times since they were already accelerating well before 60mph. (I usually start at 55mph)

    But i agree they are not 100% times but they are still not good. The head winds dont help as well. They actually ran a very similiar time to JT's SC E46 M3 (he was on pump with passenger, full weight etc..)
    Vic, your car is way different, lol

    The altitude will just move your spool point to the right since you are turbo, a SC car will lose power just like a NA car.

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    Ok so im looking at his graphs with the performance box tools.

    Looks like he has good traction after 70-80 mph.. He shifts into 4rd (i think since he has taller gears) at around 123mph which cuts his time hard. I read he said he can hit 130mph in 3rd but hasn't done it yet. If he can do it, he can cut a half second off for sure.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by MSpiredM3 Click here to enlarge
    Vic, your car is way different, lol

    The altitude will just move your spool point to the right since you are turbo, a SC car will lose power just like a NA car.
    Good post!

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by MSpiredM3 Click here to enlarge
    Vic, your car is way different, lol

    The altitude will just move your spool point to the right since you are turbo, a SC car will lose power just like a NA car.
    This is true, the guys that run <500 feet altitude find it good. JT's run was over 1500 feet i believe as well. Socal is a $#@! to find a spot.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by TaZaM3 Click here to enlarge
    This is true, the guys that run <500 feet altitude find it good. JT's run was over 1500 feet i believe as well. Socal is a $#@! to find a spot.
    PCH

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
    PCH
    True but you wanna do 130mph on PCH?

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by TaZaM3 Click here to enlarge
    True but you wanna do 130mph on PCH?
    Oh ya.... Click here to enlarge

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    Trying to upload a pic. The upload picture attachment doesnt seem to be working right, unless my pic (650kb) is too big dunno.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by TaZaM3 Click here to enlarge
    This is true, the guys that run <500 feet altitude find it good. JT's run was over 1500 feet i believe as well. Socal is a $#@! to find a spot.
    I agree, I think we need to pound on Drew to give up his spots, lol

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by sammyrusso Click here to enlarge
    also on stock rims and tires...absolutely no grip at all im sure
    True but people did hate on Gintani's time at Eurotuner on street tires lol. Those times look pretty dissappointing considering all that was done to the car regardless of conditions.

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    Red is me (700 feet, 91 oct, low boost).
    Green is St06M3's HPF stg2 run (1200 feet).
    Blue is PG's fastest run (2600 feet, high headwind).

    Notice the G's (and there respective colors, except for PG's i forgot to turn blue, so his is grey) and traction problems i was really facing.

    Click here to enlarge

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by MSpiredM3 Click here to enlarge
    I agree, I think we need to pound on Drew to give up his spots, lol
    lol knowing Drew he would drive far, he doesnt mind.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by sammyrusso Click here to enlarge
    also on stock rims and tires...absolutely no grip at all im sure
    It actually looks like he had decent traction.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by JonMartin Click here to enlarge
    True but people did hate on Gintani's time at Eurotuner on street tires lol. Those times look pretty dissappointing considering all that was done to the car regardless of conditions.
    Good point!

    Let's not forget how they hated on me for my transmission overheating as well but when the "other" guy attempts something and comes up way short it's a pat on the back and nice try you will get em next time?

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
    Good point!

    Let's not forget how they hated on me for my transmission overheating as well but when the "other" guy attempts something and comes up way short it's a pat on the back and nice try you will get em next time?
    Pretty much thats the way it goes. Also the Brians' car wasn't nearly as stripped as his was. Not even your car at famoso. Even if they didn't launch hard its not nesscessary for 60-130 as long as he was going WOT before then thats all that matters really. But like everyone else is saying A for effort Click here to enlarge

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    Definitely sick that he went to this event. If my car was done i would have possibly taken a shot at it.

    He can definitely run a better 60-130 time, i predict at decent conditions this car can run low 8's, possibly high 7's if everything is great.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by TaZaM3 Click here to enlarge
    Definitely sick that he went to this event. If my car was done i would have possibly taken a shot at it.

    He can definitely run a better 60-130 time, i predict at decent conditions this car can run low 8's, possibly high 7's if everything is great.
    It has run low 8's Taza: http://www.bimmerboost.com/showthrea...er-60-130-8.34

    If you want, I don't mind running the Texas mile, we can both attend.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
    It has run low 8's Taza: http://www.bimmerboost.com/showthrea...er-60-130-8.34

    If you want, I don't mind running the Texas mile, we can both attend.
    Didn't see that, wonder if he got the vbox files up for that.

    TX mile sounds fun, that would require a decent amount of planning. Dunno if i have the time for it.

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