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    Good question. I asked the same thing. Shiv, why the sudden 50/50 water embrace? I've logged and dynod many mixes many times. The only benefit a heavy water mix gives is potential preignition reduction. Which isn't a problem on this platform under normal circumstances. And it does that at a heavy expense to power.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by coolingmist Click here to enlarge
    His post clearly indicated that 50/50 mix will not catch fire. While a 50/50 mix is far safer than 100% meth, it still runs a risk and as I have stated I have seen customers catch a fire with a 50/50 mix or even less. The reason for that test is because his new hardware is not compatible with 100% meth and now he has to do an about face and come up with some reason to support 50/50 mixture.
    Why is it not compatible with 100% meth?

    Secondly, was 100% meth previously advocated?
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Terry@BMS Click here to enlarge
    Good question. I asked the same thing. Shiv, why the sudden 50/50 water embrace? I've logged and dynod many mixes many times. The only benefit a heavy water mix gives is potential preignition reduction. Which isn't a problem on this platform under normal circumstances. And it does that at a heavy expense to power.
    Is it really a heavy expense to power? However, it is safer isn't it? The 50/50 mixture should be more resistant to detonation but will have less meth to serve as fuel.
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
    Why is it not compatible with 100% meth?

    Secondly, was 100% meth previously advocated?
    Ask Shiv.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
    Is it really a heavy expense to power? However, it is safer isn't it? The 50/50 mixture should be more resistant to detonation but will have less meth to serve as fuel.
    In my testing the 50/50 mixed increased detonation all else equal but in theory probably decreased the chances for preignition. I don't have an EGT bung in the 135i so could only use the OEM system but more water in theory should result in lower EGTs but less power.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Terry@BMS Click here to enlarge
    In my testing the 50/50 mixed increased detonation all else equal but in theory probably decreased the chances for preignition. I don't have an EGT bung in the 135i so could only use the OEM system but more water in theory should result in lower EGTs but less power.
    Which is on the safer side... this all makes sense.
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by coolingmist Click here to enlarge
    Ask Shiv.

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    I'm not familiar with what was being advocated in the past so I'm not sure what to ask.

    To understand this, a hardware change with Procede meth integration has taken place, right? Now, 50/50 is being stated as preferable likely because the hardware being used is no longer compatible with 100% meth?

    I remember some Shiv fanboy a while back going on and on about 100% meth and how OMG great it is despite the safety concerns which Shiv is now raising. So I am curious as well as to why the shift to 50/50 now?
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge

    To understand this, a hardware change with Procede meth integration has taken place, right? Now, 50/50 is being stated as preferable likely because the hardware being used is no longer compatible with 100% meth?

    I remember some Shiv fanboy a while back going on and on about 100% meth and how OMG great it is despite the safety concerns which Shiv is now raising. So I am curious as well as to why the shift to 50/50 now?
    Now, 50/50 is being stated as preferable likely because the hardware being used is no longer compatible with 100% meth?

    Follow the money trail and shiv will be there.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by coolingmist Click here to enlarge
    Follow the money trail and shiv will be there.
    This is absolutely true but it causes him to lose credibility.

    Despite Shiv willing to sell his soul for money I thought at the end of the day you could count on him to do the right thing. So will he just defend whatever he is using at the moment for profit? If so, he loses respect among enthusiasts and you can't trust what he says as it always built around his agenda whatever it may be at the time.

    I still want to figure out why the hardware is not compatible with 100% meth.
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
    This is absolutely true but it causes him to lose credibility.

    Despite Shiv willing to sell his soul for money I thought at the end of the day you could count on him to do the right thing. So will he just defend whatever he is using at the moment for profit? If so, he loses respect among enthusiasts and you can't trust what he says as it always built around his agenda whatever it may be at the time.

    I still want to figure out why the hardware is not compatible with 100% meth.
    For the record I am not taking a stance on the 50/50 vs 70/30 vs 100% meth in this thread. As a company I have never told anyone to run anything higher than 50% meth for safety and liability reasons. If you were designing a new system you would think you would build the hardware so the customer can choose. I know thats what i would do Click here to enlarge

    As you pointed out however its funny how on vendor will make comments about how 100% meth is the best, how labonte hardware is "the best in the business" and then suddenly do an about face....

    Then again this is the same guy that got in major fights with Aquamist about 8-10 years ago about meth injection. He called it a "band aid" and said that if you were a decent tuner you will not need it and other things. Now they are in bed together, isnt it great how things work out now that meth injection is the hottest thing on the market?

    Personally, I dont know if I am more excited about our new CMGS V109 with the FSCB or Shivs new system. Im excited about them both but for completely different reasons.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by coolingmist Click here to enlarge
    Then again this is the same guy that got in major fights with Aquamist about 8-10 years ago about meth injection. He called it a "band aid" and said that if you were a decent tuner you will not need it and other things. Now they are in bed together, isnt it great how things work out?
    Where was this fight and was it concerning injection on an Evo or STI platform?

    Well, it's funny in this industry how your enemies become your friends and business partners.
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
    Where was this fight and was it concerning injection on an Evo or STI platform?

    Well, it's funny in this industry how your enemies become your friends and business partners.
    Yes it was all over the Evo and STI forum and maybe even the Rx-7 forum. Its been a long time. Its Ironic when Shiv tuned my car back in 2001ish and it later detonated and I had to get a new engine, that was the reason I got into the business. So in a way I have Shiv to thank Click here to enlarge Its Ironic that the one thing that would have saved my engine was the one thing that Shiv was dead set against.

    Funny as hell.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by coolingmist Click here to enlarge
    Its Ironic when Shiv tuned my car back in 2001ish and it later detonated, that was the reason I got into the business. So in a way I have Shiv to thank Its Ironic that the one thing that would have saved my engine was the one thing that Shiv was dead set against.
    Wait, Shiv tuned your car, was against meth, and you lost your motor due to detonation from his tuning?

    You know, the irony is pretty thick.
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
    Wait, Shiv tuned your car, was against meth, and you lost your motor due to detonation from his tuning?

    You know, the irony is pretty thick.
    I never accused Shiv of anything or blamed him. Even though back then I was just working a 9 to 5 job as a software engineer at a pre IPO company in Silicon Valley, the $8K I spent on a new engine back then was alot. I figured you got to pay to play. I think today when someone blows up an engine the tuner that has the opposite tune uses it is propoganda to sell more kits. Kinda sad really.

    If you ever have a chance to meet him please do. If he is not tuning your car, he is pretty funny.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by coolingmist Click here to enlarge
    If you ever have a chance to meet him please do. If he is not tuning your car, he is pretty funny.
    Oh, I think Shiv and I are going to become great pals.
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    Ronaldo

    Money truly does not grow on trees.. It's not easy to get the money you need but with help and some loans you'll definitely be on your way of getting more money than you ever imagined.

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    You guys tired of stroking each other yet? Click here to enlarge

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by shiv@vishnu Click here to enlarge
    You guys tired of stroking each other yet? Click here to enlarge
    Just like you, wanting to get in between a couple of guys when the getting is good.
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    LOL.

    Instead of answering the question! Classic!

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    Dave,
    I truly enjoyed reading the technical debated you and Richard Lamb got into on the other forums. I actually feel sorry for you, as do many others I'm sure.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by shiv@vishnu Click here to enlarge
    Dave,
    I truly enjoyed reading the technical debated you and Richard Lamb got into on the other forums. I actually feel sorry for you, as do many others I'm sure.
    Well atleast I never changed my position and there was no band wagon when I got into meth injection Click here to enlarge

    ps, no need to feel sorry for me. I will get by.

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    I'm not familiar with what transpired or who Richard Lamb is.
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    Richard L is Mr. Aquamist.

    Everyone has been praising 100% meth until now except Dave @ Coolingmist who put the safety before power.

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    I'm definitely not 'in the know' or any part of the various side stories here, but in regards to the Labonte flow sensor: for the last year or so (my term of experience with meth) Labonte has been the only manufacturer that works with the N54 platform, that stated their product was good to 100% meth. As far as I know all of the others will say 60%, but they verbally say higher 'should be ok' but offer no guarantees.

    Again I don't remember seeing Shiv state the Labonte was the best, but it's widely known that they fail under a variety of meth mixes and are wildly unreliable.
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    What is snows suggestion for their flow sensor?

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