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    Wikileaks founder caught in Britain, jailed: http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/wikileaks...lsZWFrc2ZvdQ--
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    yea but it's bull$#@!. he was acquitted in August for the same thing.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by e92 Click here to enlarge
    yea but it's bull$#@!. he was acquitted in Sept for the same thing.
    Of course it's BS, but shows yet again what governments can do to you whenever they want to.
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    it's ok because he's anti-American.

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    I dont understand where you get a number figure on whats acceptable civilian casualty ratio, ive never heard of one. there are guidlines and such, but "29" is imaginary. if you heard ot froma politician, well there ya go.

    on a side note, about the civilians, yeah, it sucks, it really does, but you know what sucks more, the fact its not done yet (our wars) because they allowed these reporters and camera crews with us. war is hell. politicians know nothing about it, they know nothing about how the military works on the inside (unless they have been).

    the best war, is the harshest war we can fight, as fast as we can fight it.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by LostMarine Click here to enlarge
    there are guidlines and such, but "29" is imaginary. if you heard ot froma politician, well there ya go.
    I think he was joking.
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    ^ That is RIGHT ON.
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    Same thing is happening here like it was in Vietnam. All the hippies and the media turned the country against its military and forced us to play by the enemies rules.

    When north Vietnam found out we couldn't bomb anything with a red cross painted on it, what did they do? They painted one on EVERYTHING. Even the supply trains loaded with SAMs, cannons and ammo, you could see the weapons on the train but you couldn't attack it because if you did NATO would have your ass court martialed and jailed.

    When you play by their rules, you always lose. You go in, kick $#@!ing ass and take names and get out. The special forces and SEALs do that...no reason why the rest of the military can't.

    Colonel 'Boots' Boothy once said 'the people we fight are not our enemies. They are our adversaries. The enemies are the politicians and bureaucrats in Washington.'

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Matt@Camber-Toe Click here to enlarge
    Colonel 'Boots' Boothy once said 'the people we fight are not our enemies. They are our adversaries. The enemies are the politicians and bureaucrats in Washington.'
    nice find e92. matt nice find, i like this line... this whole situation is out of hand, i cannot believe the rumors and what not that has spun off this. what is south park going to do with this lmao. who has downloaded the encrypted message? lol
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    Wikileaks- In a free society, we are supposed to know the truth. In a society where truth becomes treason, we are in big trouble.
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    He's right.

    I didn't know he posted on forums.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by e92 Click here to enlarge

    I didn't know he posted on forums.
    Twitter, actually.
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    the media has hyped this up a lot as well.
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    I agree with the statements about war from matt and LM; it's tough to do it right. But that number, sticky, was told to a class about sociology by my favorite professor whom I'm going to be helping out next semester: Dr. Samuel Richards. There may be alot of video on his
    Lectures on YouTube and I am in the audience haha but 29 is a real
    Number, that was in effect starting 2004 or 5 IIRC.
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by alq80 Click here to enlarge
    I agree with the statements about war from matt and LM; it's tough to do it right. But that number, sticky, was told to a class about sociology by my favorite professor whom I'm going to be helping out next semester: Dr. Samuel Richards. There may be alot of video on his
    Lectures on YouTube and I am in the audience haha but 29 is a real
    Number, that was in effect starting 2004 or 5 IIRC.
    Interesting, I'm surprised as I never thought there was some magic number.
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
    Interesting, I'm surprised as I never thought there was some magic number.
    It came as a surprise to me too... I never even thought that's how it was evaluated, and that class in 2006 made me a documentary freak and in response to GT3, I suggest that anybody watch Zeitgeist. I think there's a website for it... here http://www.zeitgeistmovie.com/ and watch addendum. You will not be disappointed sticky... and GT3!
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by alq80 Click here to enlarge
    I agree with the statements about war from matt and LM; it's tough to do it right. But that number, sticky, was told to a class about sociology by my favorite professor whom I'm going to be helping out next semester: Dr. Samuel Richards. There may be alot of video on his
    Lectures on YouTube and I am in the audience haha but 29 is a real
    Number, that was in effect starting 2004 or 5 IIRC.
    ask him for th reference to that #, id gladly be able to throw that out in ops briefs Click here to enlarge

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by LostMarine Click here to enlarge
    ask him for th reference to that #, id gladly be able to throw that out in ops briefs Click here to enlarge
    I dont know if that's a good or bad thing haha but I sent an email and I will respond as soon as I get a response!

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by alq80 Click here to enlarge
    Peace
    NEVER!

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by LostMarine Click here to enlarge
    NEVER!
    All joking aside (or not?), the source was first hand from personnel whose job it is to calculate those numbers, and that was

    Basically civilians will die in war. So, (and this is not a bad thing) there had to be an acceptable number of civ casualties so that it's not zero (no bombs would be dropped) nor infinity.

    Anyways, the reality is that 1-6 (rough estimate) civilians would probably be casualties not 29. But 29 is there as the ultimate cutoff as 30 was too large.

    Let's assume that there were 2 terrorists in that video and it was 100% certain; then the actions would not be necessarily wrong or illegal.

    It's a good measure to be honest and I had misunderstood it to begin with, so I am glad you asked me to elaborate on the source. Maybe you can do some digging and find out what it is now...

    And just a question, was "never" a joke or serious?

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    joke, and ill never be able to get accurate info on a set "#" its all about reward, is the target worth it, ect.... but thats why smaller elite units and single shot specialists are the way of the future Click here to enlarge

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by LostMarine Click here to enlarge
    joke, and ill never be able to get accurate info on a set "#" its all about reward, is the target worth it, ect.... but thats why smaller elite units and single shot specialists are the way of the future Click here to enlarge
    Yeah war becomes more expensive and a soldier becomes a more valuable asset. Plus, war is inevitable so I think peace should always be a figure of speech.
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    thats really not true, war is expensive because they buy the wrong $#@! and put the wrong people in the wrong places.. i wont get into that here though, but common sense is not common..

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