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    We'll see if my results will change facts .... Like you said certain cars can run better than others in different days/places ...

    And your video of the stang vs the vette doesn't tickle me , stang ran through 1 gear and was leaving the vette then it looks like he had to let off .
    I ran the stang from 2nd 3rd 4th &5th he put 3 Cars on me ( tall race playa )

    What profession are you in ? I love your sneakiness .... Twisty's much ...

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    Maybe I'll have the luxury of meeting you some day in person at one of these bimmer events and you'll be able to see if I'm as annoying in person as I am online Mr Gayspired

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by M33 Click here to enlarge
    We'll see if my results will change facts .... Like you said certain cars can run better than others in different days/places ...

    And your video of the stang vs the vette doesn't tickle me , stang ran through 1 gear and was leaving the vette then it looks like he had to let off .
    I ran the stang from 2nd 3rd 4th &5th he put 3 Cars on me ( tall race playa )

    What profession are you in ? I love your sneakiness .... Twisty's much ...
    LMAO, you act as if what kit you run should prevent you from trying to be objective. Your results will change the facts? How so?

    Listen I'm not going to do the 3rd grade act here with name calling either. I thought you were passed this Bro? Any chance we can be civil and talk like mature adults?

    The GT500 vs. Z06 vid that I posted starts AFTER their run started, and it lasts a good 10 seconds from there, that's not long enough? No doubt the GT500 is faster in the end or had they kept going, but not by much, my point was it appears only you are in the dark about how fast those cars can be?

    And your runs with the GT500 are more than 3 cars!

    This race lasts 9 seconds before the GT500 lets off, and he is much more than 3 cars ahead.



    This one at 10 seconds you are more than 3 cars behind, you may have let off before the GT500 did, but my point is the GT500 vs. Z06 vid was plenty long enough to get my point across that a Stock Z06 if driven right is a monster.

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    Bolt Ons - Best ET 11.88 Best Trap Speed 119.8 MPH
    60-130 MPH (3 shifts) 10.71s
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    11.45 @ 131.6 MPH
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    Drew why didn't you bring your car ? What's wrong with it ?

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by M33 Click here to enlarge
    Drew why didn't you bring your car ? What's wrong with it ?
    What's wrong with yours? I heard it had issues? Why did you get a new one? Why did you sell your old kit? Click here to enlarge

    It's getting some work done.
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    Bolt Ons - Best ET 11.88 Best Trap Speed 119.8 MPH
    60-130 MPH (3 shifts) 10.71s
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    11.45 @ 131.6 MPH
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by M33 Click here to enlarge
    Sticky it sounds like you have a hard on for ESS , when comparing both drews and larry's cars against a stock z06 you seem to ignore the fact that they are at different power levels ...
    And I think you make yourself look like a clown ( which is entertaining Click here to enlarge )
    Larry at 6psi didn't do bad at all considering wheel spin in fact in one of the runs where the z06 has wheel spin Larry stuck him real good !!
    Now when you bring drews car at 9.5 lbs his result wasn't that impressive considering he has Meth and 2 to 3 more lbs of boost , so what's your point ?????
    I personally think equally boosted M's the ESS kit is faster .....

    We have a friend who has a Z06 looks like I'll get some runs in also , let's she how mine tally's up ....
    Ignoring they are at different power levels? The entire point is that they are at significant different power levels. Why you don't understand this I don't know.
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by DLSJ5 Click here to enlarge
    It's unfortunate this turned into a kit vs. kit thing, but I think what Sticky is pointing out is, this vid may shed some light on this assertion that an ESS kit running less boost can run with a Gintani kit running more boost, and furthermore that boost being equal, it's probably a wash. Despite what you think of him or his approach here, he's being very objective in that case, and I would say accurate based on what we've seen, but there's always a car here or there that excels and those that just don't at times.
    This guy doesn't get it, him and Biglare think it is some attack on ESS when it is in fact pointing out the obvious discrepancy in the claims that have been propagated.

    Now all of a sudden people are saying of course the Gintani Stqge 2 is faster? Up to a week ago they weren't.
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by M33 Click here to enlarge
    It's funny how drews car wasn't there .... Nor the sidekicks car .....
    And I'll be the first to call BS on that Z06 being stock , but well find out once I run a local one .
    The car has modified mufflers but is basically stock, deal with it. Didn't this same car run Drew?

    Oh, like you are going to fair better. Aren't you already running a higher boost pulley anyway? Let's see you get out to the track and put up some slips.

    I remember reading all your propaganda on M3post, funny that everything I challenged has been proven true and all you have to say is, "BS on it being stock."
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    I trapped 131, Sticky trapped 130, and Mike trapped 131 on boost and nitrous, I know Mike can do better, I think I can too, with a built motor we'll see where Sticky and tightie can take it.

    In case some don't realize how fast they can be, here's a bone stock Z06 on DR's, a 10.7 at 129MPH.

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    60-130 MPH (3 shifts) 10.71s
    Gintani Stage 2+ Supercharger 60-130MPH (3 shifts) 7.06s
    11.45 @ 131.6 MPH
    579WHP @9.3psi

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by M33 Click here to enlarge
    Maybe I'll have the luxury of meeting you some day in person at one of these bimmer events and you'll be able to see if I'm as annoying in person as I am online Mr Gayspired
    Where the hell do you get off insulting our members when you have been probably the most retarded ESS proponent in existence. The kit did what it did, why is this so hard for you to swallow? You swallow everything Roman gives you without thinking for yourself.

    Aren't your 60-130 times pretty damn slow as well? Don't insult Mspired, I don't know where the hell you get off doing that considering he knows far more about this than you do and is yet another person who has a car that actually makes the power he is claiming.
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    Just some background info for you guys, M33 thinks these cars are much faster than they are. He is a guy who has been riding Roman's sack from the beginning without knowing what the hell he was talking about and hating on everyone not running ESS, like Eugene for example:

    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by M33
    ESS even Claim the most conservative number on a Dyno

    I've own alot of fast cars and this thing is putting down well over 500+ whp
    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by M33
    These kits were always fast from day one just needed a Vbox to confirm , and to Eugene I hit 8's all Day long that day I ran the 8.3 and that was with 2 shifts ... ESS was always underestimated
    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by M33
    BMW should have a ESS option when selling the car
    Regarding Eugene's motor:

    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by M33
    holly$#@! again? Again ?? How many times did his motor blow ?? Yikes
    Regarding his buddy img with the ESS kit running a Gintani car:

    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by M33
    That gintani car is going to get a Click here to enlarge
    Claims he has run faster than 8.3 60-130 but a "fluke" made him lose the file, BS:

    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by M33
    I hit a even better number than the 8.3 but on that specific run the vbox unplugged from the cig lighter and it only saved as a text file so I won't disclose until I clock that time again
    Always jumping in with something negative when Gintani shows superior performance numbers:

    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by M33
    so why does gintani disable the SES anyway ??? i dont know about you guys but it would bug the $#@! out of me if something was disabled on my car !!!!
    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by M33
    I say this from a design point of view , if you are comparing Gintani manifold to ESS manifold you are straight up buggen .

    Nicest manifolds are
    1) ESS
    2) Gpower
    3) AA

    And their is video of ESS m3 outrunning a gpower m3
    He has no clue what he is talking about.
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by M33 Click here to enlarge
    I personally think equally boosted M's the ESS kit is faster .....
    Care to share your technical expertise as to why you think two kits running the same boost would not be neck and neck in a heads up battle.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
    Where the hell do you get off insulting our members when you have been probably the most retarded ESS proponent in existence. The kit did what it did, why is this so hard for you to swallow? You swallow everything Roman gives you without thinking for yourself.

    Aren't your 60-130 times pretty damn slow as well? Don't insult Mspired, I don't know where the hell you get off doing that considering he knows far more about this than you do and is yet another person who has a car that actually makes the power he is claiming.
    Your members ??? You prick he insulted me first !
    My numbers are cool with me ...
    It's funny how all of you talk $#@! and none of you have a car that runs

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by M33 Click here to enlarge
    Your members ??? You prick he insulted me first !
    My numbers are cool with me ...
    It's funny how all of you talk $#@! and none of you have a car that runs
    All talk $#@! yet none have a car that runs? I know you struggle with English, yet the only person here having their motor built would seem to be me and possibly Eugene? Everyone else has a car that would beat yours down. Plus, the gap is only going to get larger as the built motor cars get out there. So really, with 8.3 second 60-130's you should probably shhhh. If you are happy with that performance, good for you, I wouldn't be. I'm not even happy with 130 traps., I like to be the best. That involves building the motor, wonder why this is so confusing for you? If you are content to be below average and have no patience, good for you.

    He didn't insult you, he called you annoying, which you are. He didn't basically call you a $#@! like you did to him.
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by M3_WC Click here to enlarge
    Care to share your technical expertise as to why you think two kits running the same boost would not be neck and neck in a heads up battle.
    He has no technical knowledge, he pulled that out of his ass as this thread shows. What he should do is apologize and say he was wrong having a lot to learn.
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by DLSJ5 Click here to enlarge
    What's wrong with yours? I heard it had issues? Why did you get a new one? Why did you sell your old kit? Click here to enlarge

    It's getting some work done.
    i sold mine cause i liked the stance of the coupe & the same kit that was in my sedan is in my coupe just painted the manifold Click here to enlarge ... no issues besides boost leak which is not an issue .......
    whats being done to your car bruh ??? roll cage ? subframe ?

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
    All talk $#@! yet none have a car that runs? I know you struggle with English, yet the only person here having their motor built would seem to be me and possibly Eugene? Everyone else has a car that would beat yours down. Plus, the gap is only going to get larger as the built motor cars get out there. So really, with 8.3 second 60-130's you should probably shhhh. If you are happy with that performance, good for you, I wouldn't be. I'm not even happy with 130 traps., I like to be the best. That involves building the motor, wonder why this is so confusing for you? If you are content to be below average and have no patience, good for you.

    He didn't insult you, he called you annoying, which you are. He didn't basically call you a $#@! like you did to him.
    i do pretty good financially with my broken engrish.
    and that 8.3 was with wheel spin in 3rd and 4th but i could care less to explain myself to you !



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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by M33 Click here to enlarge
    i do pretty good financially with my broken engrish.
    and that 8.3 was with wheel spin in 3rd and 4th but i could care less to explain myself to you !


    I could care less how you do financially. That has what to do with your entire past history of misplaced and erroneous comments? You should do less typing.

    Step up and admit the comments you made were wrong and out of place.
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    I believe M33 is Romans cousin or one of the ESS owners to my knowledge. Could be incorrect info, but i think it is correct.

    M33 you shouldnt feel that sticky is attacking ESS's quality. They think they make a great product. He and others only feel they make like their kit is the end all numero uno and that it can beat or is as fast as a Gintani kit that runs more boost. Which in my eyes is ridiculous as well and been provem wrong. And there is nothing wrong with that, no reason 7psi should be faster than 9psi. They arent even saying Gintani is better. Im sure when these kits are put head to head with the same boost it will be a draw. Then people cant start debating some other reason why one is better than the other. Stupidity.

    If you have only had vanilla ice cream, how can you debate it is better than chocolate ice cream without ever having tried chocolate?

    If I had the money to spend I would buy both kits with same boost, get 2 cars, dyno them before, same day, time and dyno. Then do the same after the install. Then take them to the strip and run 60-130 same date and time. Then track them and keep temps logged etc...I bet they would be within .1 second. Damn, I need more money! ooo...i saw a red GT2 in front of me today...looks amazing! money! money! money!
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by DD GT3 RD Click here to enlarge
    M33 you shouldnt feel that sticky is attacking ESS's quality. They think they make a great product. He and others only feel they make like their kit is the end all numero uno and that it can beat or is as fast as a Gintani kit that runs more boost. Which in my eyes is ridiculous as well and been provem wrong. And there is nothing wrong with that, no reason 7psi should be faster than 9psi. They arent even saying Gintani is better. Im sure when these kits are put head to head with the same boost it will be a draw. Then people cant start debating some other reason why one is better than the other. Stupidity.
    Exactly correct and exactly how I feel

    The kit is great but comments like one being superior than the other in performance at the same boost are exactly what the problem is. If you try and correct that where it originated Roman gets you banned. People then start to believe it and we get hurt feelings like M33 and biglare.

    The kit is quality, but let's not overestimate based on incorrect comments that have been written as they don't hold up in the real world. That is all, don't see the big deal.
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by DD GT3 RD Click here to enlarge
    I believe M33 is Romans cousin or one of the ESS owners to my knowledge. Could be incorrect info, but i think it is correct.

    M33 you shouldnt feel that sticky is attacking ESS's quality. They think they make a great product. He and others only feel they make like their kit is the end all numero uno and that it can beat or is as fast as a Gintani kit that runs more boost. Which in my eyes is ridiculous as well and been provem wrong. And there is nothing wrong with that, no reason 7psi should be faster than 9psi. They arent even saying Gintani is better. Im sure when these kits are put head to head with the same boost it will be a draw. Then people cant start debating some other reason why one is better than the other. Stupidity.

    If you have only had vanilla ice cream, how can you debate it is better than chocolate ice cream without ever having tried chocolate?

    If I had the money to spend I would buy both kits with same boost, get 2 cars, dyno them before, same day, time and dyno. Then do the same after the install. Then take them to the strip and run 60-130 same date and time. Then track them and keep temps logged etc...I bet they would be within .1 second. Damn, I need more money! ooo...i saw a red GT2 in front of me today...looks amazing! money! money! money!
    Unfortunately I'm not a part owner of ESS Click here to enlarge wouldn't mind the extra funds ...
    And I'm not related to Roman . Just clear a few things up .

    I just don't like how everyone doesn't compare apples to apples , especially Sticky , here he make a lame comment on my 8.3 run with 2 shifts compared to another run 7.8 1 shift , and he has the balls to call Me an idiot ( Romans third cousin ) which he makes himself look like a bigger idiot cause if he apply'd some math he would see they are at par ( but I could care less cause i'll clock my own time with one shift ) ...

    stinky how many actual miles have you put on you car ? Looks like it's been down more than it's been on the up and up Click here to enlarge
    I also have yet to see some figures of a gintani car running a 60-130 with out Meth and equal boost !!!
    stinky do me a favor get a gintani car with the same fuel and boost as mine run a better time and I will do your Mommy the favor of fixing your car for her Click here to enlarge

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    stinky has no class like his car !!
    Black piece of $#@! , don't you know your car represents you and your ride say's it all no guts .... Literally .......

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by M33 Click here to enlarge
    I just don't like how everyone doesn't compare apples to apples , especially Sticky , here he make a lame comment on my 8.3 run with 2 shifts compared to another run 7.8 1 shift , and he has the balls to call Me an idiot ( Romans third cousin ) which he makes himself look like a bigger idiot cause if he apply'd some math he would see they are at par ( but I could care less cause i'll clock my own time with one shift ) ...
    I'm trying to decipher this. Your car ran what it ran, you are in the 8's and clearly you would struggle with a stock Z06 as well. No getting around this...

    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by M33 Click here to enlarge
    stinky how many actual miles have you put on you car ? Looks like it's been down more than it's been on the up and up
    Pretty creative the way you changed the c to an n there. I better watch my step with such a word smith at work.

    How many miles? I don't know, but does it matter really? I care about performance and that is what my car is being built for. The car is a toy for me, nothing more. I don't need it as a daily driver and can afford to have more than one car so maybe that is why you ESS guys focus on my build time? Since you need your car so desperately and can not afford to take the time to build it into something worthy of discussion.

    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by M33 Click here to enlarge
    I also have yet to see some figures of a gintani car running a 60-130 with out Meth and equal boost !!!
    Uh, and? Up your boost and run meth so you can put up some numbers that are actually impressive.

    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by M33 Click here to enlarge
    stinky do me a favor get a gintani car with the same fuel and boost as mine run a better time and I will do your Mommy the favor of fixing your car for her
    Heh, mom jokes? Haha, wow. Please, just quit with trying to type insults as they just come out pretty stupid from you. You want me to get you a kit with the same fuel and boost? Why don't you up your boost or is the fuel going to cut on you again? Click here to enlarge
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by M33 Click here to enlarge
    stinky has no class like his car !!
    Black piece of $#@! , don't you know your car represents you and your ride say's it all no guts .... Literally .......
    Classy.
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    I can't wait to see M33's car get stomped by a Gintani car..

    BTW didn't biglare have and 8.5psi setup for bimmerfest? Doesn't his car have gears also?
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