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    BMS's long rod N54 build photo Log!

    We've been pretty silent lately while diligently working to complete production for the MANY bottom and top mount turbo systems which have been ordered over the past few weeks. Firgured I should come on and give some updates as to the status of Terry's engine build.

    @Terry@BMS has given us the honor and privilege of building him a custom FFTEC N54 Long Rod motor.

    Short Block has been balanced, blue-printed and assembled in house.

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    FFTEC Spec'd CP Pistons

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    Wow that is awesome!! What will she be stroked to?
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    The game has changed.

    N54 world is exciting these days.




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    Good job FFTEC! BMS will break some records with that bad boy Click here to enlarge

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    did you take any pictures comparing the oem and stroker rods?
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    Wow looks nice. Are we going to get the specs or is that hush hush till the car is done?Click here to enlarge
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    sweet! Any idea on what turbo setup is going on this motor?
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    Looks fantastic very excited to see the results, I know we aren't disclosing everything but is it going to have cams and built valve train I assume to rev higher and take advantage of larger turbo sizes?.....Click here to enlarge

    I guess at this point in the platforms development it would be a little more 6MT oriented due to transmission restrictions, but curiosity has me.

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    o0o00oo0 specs pls
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    Interesting dome profile. Are these low compression or just custom profile?

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    Awesome!
    Whats the difference to the VAC pistons and rods (also CP and Carrillo)?

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    Sweet. Major kudos to BMS (and FFTEC) - their commitment to the N54 platform is awesome.

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    I wouldn't get excited till they share the specs. Doubt it's stroked much, even ABR's stroked setup only makes it .05 of a liter bigger. That's hardly worth the trouble to go from a 3.0 to a 3.05
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    Specs? We know what engine internals look like lol.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by brusk Click here to enlarge
    I wouldn't get excited till they share the specs. Doubt it's stroked much, even ABR's stroked setup only makes it .05 of a liter bigger. That's hardly worth the trouble to go from a 3.0 to a 3.05
    You are correct. They cannot stroke them much, ABR is building 3 strokers for people right now, us included.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by VargasTurboTech Click here to enlarge
    You are correct. They cannot stroke them much, ABR is building 3 strokers for people right now, us included.
    What about make it rev higher?
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by fastgti69 Click here to enlarge
    What about make it rev higher?
    ABR is upgrading all the valve train components with the best aftermarket has to offer(as are FFTEC), so that will be a non issue. One of the biggest things with adding RPM is the injection window on the DI gets very tight. I think someone did the math of how many RPM you can spin with a safe injection window but I forgot what it was. I do not see why we shouldn't be able to spin them a little harder, but adding stroke usually decreases rev threshold so it may just be a trade off. We will see once people start running this motors.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by VargasTurboTech Click here to enlarge
    ABR is upgrading all the valve train components with the best aftermarket has to offer(as are FFTEC), so that will be a non issue. One of the biggest things with adding RPM is the injection window on the DI gets very tight. I think someone did the math of how many RPM you can spin with a safe injection window but I forgot what it was. I do not see why we shouldn't be able to spin them a little harder, but adding stroke usually decreases rev threshold so it may just be a trade off. We will see once people start running this motors.
    i think it was 8000 odd would be the upper limit but depends on power/fuel type etc?

    Also curious as to the specs.

    looks like standard fasteners used, not studs - reason?
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Flinchy Click here to enlarge
    i think it was 8000 odd would be the upper limit but depends on power/fuel type etc?

    Also curious as to the specs.

    looks like standard fasteners used, not studs - reason?
    Those look like ARP rod bolts to me, but yes looks like factory main bolts, I am sure there is a reason, I am sure they will be going with head studs as well. I talked to a customer the other day who is going for 1000WHP, he let us know VAC is building him a sleeved motor, that is interesting to us, as that open deck block still worries me. Anyone can put the best rod / piston combos they want in these things, if we pop the block its not going to matter. Yes I know the sleeves will not get rid of the open deck, but may add some strength to it, and keep the cylinders from warping under high power.

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    Depending on the sleeve type you could close or partially close the deck. Darton has many different types of sleeves but they wouldn't even entertain looking at a BWM block and said they send all that type of stuff to VAC. I'd be curious to see how much you could open up the bore with proper sleeves.
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by VargasTurboTech Click here to enlarge
    Those look like ARP rod bolts to me, but yes looks like factory main bolts, I am sure there is a reason, I am sure they will be going with head studs as well. I talked to a customer the other day who is going for 1000WHP, he let us know VAC is building him a sleeved motor, that is interesting to us, as that open deck block still worries me. Anyone can put the best rod / piston combos they want in these things, if we pop the block its not going to matter. Yes I know the sleeves will not get rid of the open deck, but may add some strength to it, and keep the cylinders from warping under high power.
    wow a sleeved N54?

    I thought @alex@ABRhouston had a look at that and came up with some issues? (water jacket? or was it just the prohibitive nature of the cost maybe?)

    I'm sure if the sleeves are going to crack with big power it'll happen soon enough when people get the ability to run enough E85 to do so Click here to enlarge - hoping it's more like the S2k blocks in terms of strength, rather than EJ20 say haha (orClick here to enlarge
    ) .. and the block is at least not fully floating cylinders and the water jacket's not too deep.

    I'll just cross my fingers that the stock sleeves are good enough hah

    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by brusk Click here to enlarge
    Depending on the sleeve type you could close or partially close the deck. Darton has many different types of sleeves but they wouldn't even entertain looking at a BWM block and said they send all that type of stuff to VAC. I'd be curious to see how much you could open up the bore with proper sleeves.
    I wonder if/when heat management would become an issue (which it already is a fair bit anyway) closing it up any more.
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    Who is doing the crank and what is the stroke change? I don't see why they are even bothering with increasing the stroke as there isn't much to gain and the rod to stroke ratio is already aggressive.
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    Nice photos! Click here to enlarge

    Displacement is not much different from stock. It's mainly a different rod to stroke ratio from my understanding. It's going in our E92 which is running a 6466. We'll stay with that turbo for now and evaluate after we get some tuning work done with the new setup. May need to go larger... Click here to enlarge
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    Information was transposed improperly fella's. This is a LONG ROD build. Not stroked. The original post has been edited to reflect this. I will update with more photo's soon!

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