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    135i 5862 top mount (100-200)

    FFTEC top mount 5862, jb4 map2 17psi,
    i think the throttle closed few times in the run..


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    Umm so my neck hurts now watching that lol.

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    Why isn't the dash setup to show boost on fuel and timing on oil when at WOT??
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    outside temp 100 f..
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Terry@BMS Click here to enlarge
    Why isn't the dash setup to show boost on fuel and timing on oil when at WOT??
    no need to switch the dash, they r more accurate from the log, also while accelerating i can't focus on the timing, boost and the street at the same time.

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    Looks quick!!

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by 135idct Click here to enlarge
    no need to switch the dash, they r more accurate from the log, also while accelerating i can't focus on the timing, boost and the street at the same time.

    watching timing real time is a great way to know if things are remotely happy , do you log every single time you drive you car?
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    Not that fast though, are you going to crank up the boost ?

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by 135idct Click here to enlarge
    no need to switch the dash, they r more accurate from the log, also while accelerating i can't focus on the timing, boost and the street at the same time.
    why would someone neg rep this? Is the kool aid really so sweet that the truth deserves neg reps? LOL
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by rader1 Click here to enlarge
    why would someone neg rep this? Is the kool aid really so sweet that the truth deserves neg reps? LOL
    lol, no idea, someone negged the first post too....da fuq?

    I mean I keep my boost on fuel and timing on oil but I'm not going to neg someone that doesn't....LMAO
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by lfelunden Click here to enlarge
    Not that fast though, are you going to crank up the boost ?
    sure

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by 135idct Click here to enlarge
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    Awesome! I'm glad to see you out there enjoying the car!

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by 135idct Click here to enlarge
    FFTEC top mount 5862, jb4 map2 17psi,
    i think the throttle closed few times in the run..

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by MikeB@FFTEC Click here to enlarge
    Awesome! I'm glad to see you out there enjoying the car!
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by 135idct Click here to enlarge
    no need to switch the dash, they r more accurate from the log, also while accelerating i can't focus on the timing, boost and the street at the same time.
    It's good to have the data there, even if you don't want to look at it while racing, we could see it in the video. Click here to enlarge

    Once you get used to it its easy to peek and see how things are going. With the new timing 2-6 we set it up to show the lowest timing advance in dash as well. The real time in dash gauges are really indispensable once you're used to them.
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by ChuckD05 Click here to enlarge
    watching timing real time is a great way to know if things are remotely happy , do you log every single time you drive you car?
    People like you and me like to keep an eye on knock but with a single kit everyone needs to keep an eye on boost. It's too easy for a vacuum line to pop off, break, or go awry causing 30psi boost spikes. The JB4 will close the throttle and do its best to save you but nothing beats the peace of mind you get from seeing that boost needle sit exactly where it should be sitting. Click here to enlarge
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Terry@BMS Click here to enlarge
    With the new timing 2-6 we set it up to show the lowest timing advance in dash as well. The real time in dash gauges are really indispensable once you're used to them.
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Terry@BMS Click here to enlarge
    It's good to have the data there, even if you don't want to look at it while racing, we could see it in the video. Click here to enlarge

    Once you get used to it its easy to peek and see how things are going. With the new timing 2-6 we set it up to show the lowest timing advance in dash as well. The real time in dash gauges are really indispensable once you're used to them.
    Terry if you set Timing on Oil with the new firmware, does it automatically show the lowest timing out of all cylinders on there or is there somewhere in the settings to enable that?

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    You need to enable cyl 2-6 logging and then it shows lowest in dash by default.
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by mjmarovi Click here to enlarge
    lol, no idea, someone negged the first post too....da fuq?

    I mean I keep my boost on fuel and timing on oil but I'm not going to neg someone that doesn't....LMAO
    I just think whenever doing pulls eyes should be focused solely on the road, especially when talking about the speeds a single turbo car can hit in a short amount of time. Just grab a log every week or so(or if something has changed.)
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by rader1 Click here to enlarge
    I just think whenever doing pulls eyes should be focused solely on the road, especially when talking about the speeds a single turbo car can hit in a short amount of time. Just grab a log every week or so(or if something has changed.)
    I agree to a point, but when you get used to seeing something you can catch a gauge out of place out of the corner of your eye fairly easily. Anyway, I'll be switching soon, will need to figure something out for gauges. Wish a digital HUD was an option.
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    In my opinion in dash gauges are useless while driving a car with any sort of power. You need to see boost in real time this is not in question, but looking down at hi jacked fuel gauge is 100% not the way to do this. Buy a real boost gauge and mount it in line of site so you can actually monitor what your car is doing without taking your eyes off the road. If you want the ultimate real time monitoring tool buy a Cobb AP V3 and have SIX real gauges of your choice in your line of site, not a fuel gauge with some graduated lines on it that is supposed to be boost. People spend all this money to build a turbo car and want to rely on a hijacked fuel gauge for boost monitoring?? While you are it, get the next most important parameter to monitor when running a high power turbo motor and get an EGT gauge. Not a single person I have seen except us is monitoring EGT. Makes no sense to me. My .02

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by VargasTurboTech Click here to enlarge
    In my opinion in dash gauges are useless while driving a car with any sort of power. You need to see boost in real time this is not in question, but looking down at hi jacked fuel gauge is 100% not the way to do this. Buy a real boost gauge and mount it in line of site so you can actually monitor what your car is doing without taking your eyes off the road. If you want the ultimate real time monitoring tool buy a Cobb AP V3 and have SIX real gauges of your choice in your line of site, not a fuel gauge with some graduated lines on it that is supposed to be boost. People spend all this money to build a turbo car and want to rely on a hijacked fuel gauge for boost monitoring?? While you are it, get the next most important parameter to monitor when running a high power turbo motor and get an EGT gauge. Not a single person I have seen except us is monitoring EGT. Makes no sense to me. My .02
    I have the p3 guage that monitors boost, egt, afr, ignt timing, throttle, ait, etc. It's great! Not in the line of sight exactly since it fits in the left vent, but the numbers are digital, large, and easy to read. IMO Afr is just as important....
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by bobS Click here to enlarge
    I have the p3 guage that monitors boost, egt, afr, ignt timing, throttle, ait, etc. It's great! Not in the line of sight exactly since it fits in the left vent, but the numbers are digital, large, and easy to read. IMO Afr is just as important....
    The P3 gauges are nice, I do like them. I will say that the EGT values the DME is sending back is not real EGT and are actually a pretty useless number, to see real EGT you need to mount a probe in the exhaust as close to the exhaust valve as you can get it, on a turbo car this means pre turbo, on a SC car like yours, this means in one of the header tubes right after the head. This is critical information for a turbocharged car, on a SC car not as important so you are fine with the P3 and all the other info its giving you is pretty accurate, we only rely on analog boost gauges when monitoring high boost / big power builds, what the DME is sending you for boost may not always be accurate, a line plumbed into the manifold will always be.

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    If you like the OEM look (as I do) gauge hijacking is a must. I'm done with a $#@!load of guages in my nice looking interior. Keeps the steaalth factor up as well, especially me living in nyc and parking my ride in valet all the time. Guage hijacking is a nice tool that you can glance at quickly as with any sort of guage.

    Now give me a way to hijack the navi screen to output guage info and I'll be the happiest mofo around!

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