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    Thumbs up PTF ProTune (eTune) Experience and Review

    Executive Summary:
    I'm at 6,500ft above sea level with poor 91 octane. I've always been happy with my Cobb OTS map (Drive Stage 1), but knew there had to be more there. PTF ran a group buy on another forum (PTF - run one here!) and I was lucky enough to get in for $200. Great investment - my only regret is not doing it earlier. Nishan was fantastic to work with, super responsive (it took 12 iterations) and found another 21HP and 33lbft of torque in my car all with a massive increase in area under the curve.

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    Car Background:
    2010 335i, ZSP, auto, RWD, Cobb V2, BMS drop-in filter and Alpina flash. Roughly 50k miles. We have E85 available, but I didn't want to mess mixing, so we tuned on our 91 octane. Sucking in thin air at 6,500ft above sea level.

    Purchase from PTF:
    The purchase couldn't have been any easier. Each of the group buy members were given a unique code, we entered it and purchased our tune. Less than 24hours later, I had an email from my tuner - Nishan.

    Process:
    Nishan warned me upfront that my car would take some extra steps because of the altitude. He wanted to fine tune it carefully - something I greatly appreciated and respected. At the time, I didn't realize how many iterations it would take, but I committed to myself to turn around logs within 24hours. While Nishan never committed to turning around the revised maps in any specific timeframe, his response time was incredible. Even though they had a massive group buy they were working on, he still turned the maps around in 24-48hours. Very nice! In addition, he's clearly a car guy, even asking for a pic of my car so he'd know what he was working on. Very cool.

    We started off with a baseline of the map I was already running - the Drive Stage 1 map from Cobb. We then started tweaking off of that. From the very beginning I knew I wanted to do a review of this process, so I found a closed stretch of road I could do datalogs on that always started at the same spot for easy virtual dyno comparison. I apologize up front for not having a "real" dyno, but this was what I had available and I controlled the variables (including temperature) for compares as much as possible.

    Results:
    Keeping in mind that I'm at 6,500ft, I ran a Stage0 log to see what my car would be like stock:

    241HP
    274lbft

    My Stage 1 Drive map yielded:

    282HP
    320lbft

    Quite nice for the Cobb OTS map. A gain of 41HP and 46lbft of torque over stock. This is why I love Cobb Click here to enlarge

    But like I said, I knew there was more. After 12 revisions, tons of fine tuning and lots of hard work, Nishan's expertise gained me another 21HP and 33lbft and a massive bump in the area under the curve:

    303HP
    353lbft


    Final Map vs. Stage 0 (+62HP, +79lbft)
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    Final Map vs. Stage 1 OTS (+21HP, +33lbft)

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    In the end, I'm super happy. My only regret is I wish I had done it earlier. Plus, as I add new parts to my car, Nishan and PTF can finesse out even more power.

    Bottom Line:
    If you've been on the fence for a PTF proTune (eTune), stop waiting and do it. You won't regret it.

    -Rich
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    agreed to doing a group buy! i'm in if anybody starts.

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    I totally forgot - on that same closed road I had a few runs with a couple fun cars. While thin air sucks, it sucks less when you have forced induction Click here to enlarge

    First car was a C6 Corvette. Pretty sure he was stock and up to about 100mph I pulled a car length or two. At our altitude, they probably run low to mid 13s, so I was pretty happy (I figure I'm somewhere around low 13s at our altitude - I'll try to get out to the strip soon).

    The second car was a B6 S4 (V8) with at least exhaust (it sounded fantastic). They aren't horribly fast to begin with, and then you add in the altitude and it wasn't even close. But still fun though (and it did sound better than my car Click here to enlarge).

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    I went with Jake on my car and it has been hassle free ever since
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Ak335i Click here to enlarge
    I went with Jake on my car and it has been hassle free ever since
    Yep - from what I've seen, they are all experts at what they do. Their reputation is well deserved!

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    PTF FTW
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by scflaw Click here to enlarge
    agreed to doing a group buy! i'm in if anybody starts.
    It will be a while before the next group buy. The guys are absolutely swamped right now.
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    Nice, the altitude is a real kick in the junk for making power. Looks great.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by rader1 Click here to enlarge
    It will be a while before the next group buy. The guys are absolutely swamped right now.
    That's what was impressive to me about the whole deal - they clearly have a ton going on, but I still felt like my little eTune was a priority. Great customer service.

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    Nicely written review. We have worked closely with PTF since starting on this N54 journey, I wouldn't have chosen a better company to work with, they have stayed with us and we have broken a lot of records along the way. They know what they are doing and are great guys.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by VargasTurboTech Click here to enlarge
    Nicely written review. We have worked closely with PTF since starting on this N54 journey, I wouldn't have chosen a better company to work with, they have stayed with us and we have broken a lot of records along the way. They know what they are doing and are great guys.
    Thanks - I'd rep you, but I've rep'd you too recently Click here to enlarge

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    Thanks for working with us @richpike and glad you're enjoying your new tune. We are indeed extremely swamped at this time and have even had to temporarily take the BMW protunes off our website to handle the load with our current customers and not take on any new ones. We are doing our best to provide the best customer service possible even if it means taking a hit on our tuning orders for a short time.

    Appreciate the kind words guys, all the best Click here to enlarge

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by dzenno@PTF Click here to enlarge
    Thanks for working with us @richpike and glad you're enjoying your new tune. We are indeed extremely swamped at this time and have even had to temporarily take the BMW protunes off our website to handle the load with our current customers and not take on any new ones. We are doing our best to provide the best customer service possible even if it means taking a hit on our tuning orders for a short time.

    Appreciate the kind words guys, all the best Click here to enlarge
    Keep up the good work dzenno - excited to see what else you all have coming out.

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    Nice write up. I agree a protune is a must for any cobb user. It's a night and day difference and when I had my 335 I was so happy with the results.
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by bobS Click here to enlarge
    Nice write up. I agree a protune is a must for any cobb user. It's a night and day difference and when I had my 335 I was so happy with the results.
    Thanks. It's no Evolve M3, but I'm a happy camper for now Click here to enlarge

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    Enjoy the power OP! You should get an e85 map, you'll love it. Way faster than pump gas. I have a ptf e30 map done by Jake@ptf for over 20k miles now. Car runs great, very smooth. Waiting for their turbo kit to hit the market to upgrade Click here to enlarge

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by ovitrix Click here to enlarge
    Enjoy the power OP! You should get an e85 map, you'll love it. Way faster than pump gas. I have a ptf e30 map done by Jake@ptf for over 20k miles now. Car runs great, very smooth. Waiting for their turbo kit to hit the market to upgrade Click here to enlarge
    Good thoughts. At some point I probably will, but I'm going to enjoy this a bit and eventually start adding some more bolt-ons.

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    Spend the money for a protune and be a happy man.

    Well done.
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by dzenno@PTF Click here to enlarge
    Thanks for working with us @richpike and glad you're enjoying your new tune. We are indeed extremely swamped at this time and have even had to temporarily take the BMW protunes off our website to handle the load with our current customers and not take on any new ones. We are doing our best to provide the best customer service possible even if it means taking a hit on our tuning orders for a short time.

    Appreciate the kind words guys, all the best Click here to enlarge
    When do you think you'll be taking new orders for protunes?
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    Hopefully soon. We are doing our best to respond to everyone as quickly as humanly possible given the three of us tuning at this time.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by ovitrix Click here to enlarge
    Enjoy the power OP! You should get an e85 map, you'll love it. Way faster than pump gas. I have a ptf e30 map done by Jake@ptf for over 20k miles now. Car runs great, very smooth. Waiting for their turbo kit to hit the market to upgrade Click here to enlarge
    How much extra power can you expect going from 91 to e85 map?

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    I love mine best 250.00 investment I've ever made lol
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Mr. Boost Click here to enlarge
    How much extra power can you expect going from 91 to e85 map?
    My baseline was 278whp on 93 and 400whp on 30% e85 on a mustang dyno.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by ovitrix Click here to enlarge
    My baseline was 278whp on 93 and 400whp on 30% e85 on a mustang dyno.
    ^ This is consistent with my Virtual Dyno results. PTF guys are great!
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