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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by VargasTurboTech Click here to enlarge
    The motor is extremely special, time will show this as it has with the N54.

    Yea i kinda miss used my words, Its hard to express what I meant with the keyboard. Basically if you take a n54 do your stg 2s and get the head work done by whomever you will see substantially more power than the current M. Thats not to say the new M doesn't have a higher quality better engineered setup with much more long term potential.

    It's also running 3-4 degrees of timing lol ... so i should just say i prob mis used words and jumped the gun, you're more than likely right. There has been just a few of these delivered so judgments cant be made Click here to enlarge
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    I am VERY impressed with these results!

    Consider this for what it is worth:

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    I will not be surprised one bit if this BMS M car is faster than mine in a few months with the Beta tune supporting more E85!

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    Looking impressive already. Nice traps with just a basic tune that hasn't really been optimized. Thanks for posting the progress!
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by VargasTurboTech Click here to enlarge
    Sticky spot on again
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    I did cheat a little and up the power a bit from the dyno. It's probably closer to 500rw right now. Click here to enlarge
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by VargasTurboTech Click here to enlarge
    I think you guys are forgetting, this car comes stock with dual HPFP's, and they are the easy to upgrade cam driven piston style. The HPFP issues of the N54 and N55 are gone moving forward.
    TY, so add injectors and E85 tune and you are set
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Group.america Click here to enlarge
    TY, so add injectors and E85 tune and you are set
    I'm going to have to guess the stock injectors are just fine for high HP, like the N54s. At least we haven't found the limit yet...

    I am curious how the LPFP will hold up on 100% E85 or if it will need to be upgraded like ours.
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    Why was DTC kicking in? Did you not have it fully off?
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Group.america Click here to enlarge
    TY, so add injectors and E85 tune and you are set
    No injectors needed. But trying to tune for E85 is going to be a real chore, getting proper fueling on E85 with the N54 was not possible until the DME was cracked, I assume it is going to limit this platform as well

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    Now this has got me thinking what parts us n54 guys can "borrow" from the new m3/m4. Possibly that dual fuel pump setup or their stock turbos?

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by justohigh Click here to enlarge
    Now this has got me thinking what parts us n54 guys can "borrow" from the new m3/m4. Possibly that dual fuel pump setup or their stock turbos?
    Been discussed at length, most likely nothing is going to cross over, the fuel pumps have completely different control schemes and control devices, the injectors are spaced completely differently, lines are run different, meaning you can control the pumps, or use the fuel rail, etc. There may be a few parts that fit, but not of the big ones, turbos, fuel parts etc will.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by ihc95 Click here to enlarge
    Why was DTC kicking in? Did you not have it fully off?
    Just one push as it has street tires on it.
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Terry@BMS Click here to enlarge
    Just one push as it has street tires on it.
    So much for the "go easy for 500 miles" break in period!
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by ChuckD05 Click here to enlarge
    one push puss
    lol I've got a set of 19" 305/35 NT05Rs ready to go when I'm ready to do some real 1/4 mile runs. Click here to enlarge
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Terry@BMS Click here to enlarge
    lol I've got a set of 19" 305/35 NT05Rs ready to go when I'm ready to do some real 1/4 mile runs. Click here to enlarge
    That does better than the 17's with the thick sidewall?
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by fastgti69 Click here to enlarge
    That does better than the 17's with the thick sidewall?
    17s would be much better but I doubt they will clear the brakes. It already has 19x10 rims on so I'll just throw these tires on the OEM rims.
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    For anybody considering a new generation (( M )) car this one should be at the top of the list. This is just my opinion
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by rawad1017 Click here to enlarge
    still have yet to see top speed delimited
    In a sense you don't need a car to have a higher top speed for it to be faster in a street driving scenario, which is the case most times here. M5/6's top out at 200, and will probably lose in a roll to a tuned s55 car so in my eyes at least the s55 would be the faster car even though it probably wouldn't do 200. But in reality no ones hitting 200 comfortably on public roads.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Terry@BMS Click here to enlarge
    17s would be much better but I doubt they will clear the brakes. It already has 19x10 rims on so I'll just throw these tires on the OEM rims.
    Did you opt for ceramics by any chance?

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by SSO95 Click here to enlarge
    In a sense you don't need a car to have a higher top speed for it to be faster in a street driving scenario, which is the case most times here. M5/6's top out at 200, and will probably lose in a roll to a tuned s55 car so in my eyes at least the s55 would be the faster car even though it probably wouldn't do 200. But in reality no ones hitting 200 comfortably on public roads.
    in no situation is a car with a lower top speed faster than another car
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by SSO95 Click here to enlarge
    Did you opt for ceramics by any chance?
    No, I would have considered them, but I didn't get any choice in the options on this vehicle. It was take what they have coming for launch.
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by rawad1017 Click here to enlarge
    in no situation is a car with a lower top speed faster than another car
    Not faster but another car could be quicker up to all of the important MPHs. Who cares if you top speed is 160 if you get there a ton faster? All top speed means is it has the gearing and some aero to get there. You can make a relatively low HP car go VERY fast but the gearing and areo have to be right.
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by rawad1017 Click here to enlarge
    in no situation is a car with a lower top speed faster than another car
    So in your eyes, the car with the higher top speed is the faster car?

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Terry@BMS Click here to enlarge
    17s would be much better but I doubt they will clear the brakes. It already has 19x10 rims on so I'll just throw these tires on the OEM rims.
    Some new info on wheel weight. Light weight for stock 19in wheels.

    Wheels: 19x9.0 Front (ET29) 19x10.0 Rear (ET40), Style 437M
    Tires: 19": Michelin Super Sport: 255/35-19, 275/35-19

    Front: 45.90lb w/ tire
    Rear: 49.50lb w/ tire

    According to TireRack data, tires weigh in at 24lbs for 255s and 27lbs on 275s.

    Front: Style 437M, (no tire): 21.9lbs
    Rear: Style 437M, (no tire): 22.5lbs

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Torgus Click here to enlarge
    Not faster but another car could be quicker up to all of the important MPHs. Who cares if you top speed is 160 if you get there a ton faster? All top speed means is it has the gearing and some aero to get there. You can make a relatively low HP car go VERY fast but the gearing and areo have to be right.
    there you go
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    So in your eyes, the car with the higher top speed is the faster car?
    it's a fact
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