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    Single Turbo update from AR design

    I know many of you have been pining for an update.....so here it is:
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    Mustang Dyno - Our baseline is on a Dynojet, will be heading over there to get a comparison. For reference, the mustang reads 10% or more lower than the Dynojet we have used in the past.
    Tuning still has some room left for improvement, but this will give you guys an idea of where we are at.

    Car pulls like a FREIGHT TRAIN, all the way to 7,000rpm. Zero taper, zero drop. Just goes.

    We have been working very hard on this kit for over a year. Figuring the tuning out has been a REAL challenge, but we have it nearly 100% dialed in, and are VERY pleased with the results.

    Will be heading back to the dyno soon to try and squeeze a few more ponies out on pump gas, then will be filling her up with some MS109, and really turning it up. Weather here is horrid, will try and get out in the next few days and shoot a few videos.
    And mind you, This is at 5000 above sea level****

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    Just remove the link to the e90-site... Some innocent people could end up in a bad place. You have the same info on N54 if the link is required...

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    oooo maaaaaaaaatttt.....ready to install another kit? Click here to enlarge

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    AWE $#@!!! Look at that boost control!!

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    what turbo is this using? and i cant really make out the numbers but its over 450whp/wtq? at 15 psi with no fuel additives. wow.
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    444whp and 440tq
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by LostMarine Click here to enlarge
    AWE $#@!!! Look at that boost control!!
    LOL!!!!

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    This is on a mustang so thats really what... 480 on a jet?

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    Dyno is bull$#@!, Denver correction factors don't apply to Forced Induction cars. Why can't they just dyno uncorrected?

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    Typically about 10% to the local Dynojet, I think that is what was stated in thread.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by klipseracer Click here to enlarge
    This is on a mustang so thats really what... 480 on a jet?
    Depends, Mustangs vary.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Laloosh Click here to enlarge
    Dyno is bull$#@!, Denver correction factors don't apply to Forced Induction cars. Why can't they just dyno uncorrected?
    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by ar design Click here to enlarge
    A stock Evo8 makes 230whp on this dyno, for reference.
    Doesnt sound too far off???

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    Is it just me or do I not see the correction factor on that sheet.

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    Im sorry, words don't mean $#@!. Dyno the car uncorrected. Very simply task. Hell they can post the uncorrected part if they simply call the shop and get the file. With no basline, an INSANE correction factor that is meant for NA cars not FI cars this chart is complete crap.

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    WC stands for weather correction, mustangs don't actually show the correction factor, which makes it even more useless.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Laloosh Click here to enlarge
    WC stands for weather correction, mustangs don't actually show the correction factor, which makes it even more useless.
    AR, would you please step up and answer this (and the post rt before it)?

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by encinitas Click here to enlarge
    AR, would you please step up and answer this (and the post rt before it)?
    ar design is not allowed to post on here, I believe........

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Giggity Click here to enlarge
    ar design is not allowed to post on here, I believe........
    That is correct.

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    Nothing to clarify on ARs part. That dyno, uncorrected wouldnt even break 400whp, either way thats more feasable at their elevation.

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    Why do vendors ignore a site like this? You have people ready to call your $#@! out with or without fact.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by encinitas Click here to enlarge
    Why do vendors ignore a site like this? You have people ready to call your $#@! out with or without fact.
    Well, AR didn't ignore it, that was part of the problem.

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    Because vendors hate realists such as myself.....People see 444 and go OMFG amazing, price, ect ect.
    I am not saying they didnt accomplish anything, what I am saying is that people should not get hung up on incorrect dyno numbers

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    Chris - i usually back you up here but delta's can't lie. As long as the same coefficient is used (i don't care if its 1.90) the baseline and bt dynos will show the same gains there as they would here. So if i make 300whp on a dyno shop at the east coast and his kit shows a delta of 175whp at 15psi with a TON of timing pulled out for the initial tuning sessions then that same kit and tune will make the same 175whp here and im at 475whp...relax and once i get timing put back in we'll do a dynojet and show the delta.
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by www.cp-e.com Click here to enlarge
    Chris - i usually back you up here but delta's can't lie. As long as the same coefficient is used (i don't care if its 1.90) the baseline and bt dynos will show the same gains there as they would here. So if i make 300whp on a dyno shop at the east coast and his kit shows a delta of 175whp at 15psi with a TON of timing pulled out for the initial tuning sessions then that same kit and tune will make the same 175whp here and im at 475whp...relax and once i get timing put back in we'll do a dynojet and show the delta.
    Where exactly is the delta shown? They don't even have a baseline on this dyno. They shot themselves in the foot. You told me about this a couple days ago, and mentioned it was uncorrected. Either you got your $#@! mixed up or they lied. You actually asked me what I thought it made at 14-15psi uncorrected at their elevation. I said 390ish sounds about right for their hardware set up, you said 44x uncorrected. I loled. And here we are.

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