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    Vargas Stage 1 Dyno Results

    Disclaimer this is not my car, this was posted up over at those other forums and I am not sure if he is a member over here and the data is to good not to post.

    Copied and pasted from other forum:
    My dyno vid. The heart breaker Mustang dyno calculated 414WHP and 460 WTQ. Guy said to add 15% to get Dynojet numbers which is 476WHP and 529WTQ. Density altitude was also 5800 ft that day! I was not expecting any HUGE power gains from the stage one upgrade put I think 470WHP is pretty damn good for the altitude i'm at and if anyone is curious about the turbo install, it took me 15 straight hours putting those suckers in. Big PITA but worth the knuckle busters.

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    These seem to hold boost very well and taper off much more slowly than stock turbos. If you look at the log he is hitting close to 17.5 lbs of boost at 7k. A ton more than what you are able to hit on stock turbos (15 tops IIRC).
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    Wow that's pretty good!

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    Yeah and thats not even on e85 which is likely good for a bit more power, it looks like the HPFP is hanging in well on his current fuel choice though. I personally will not spend that much on fuel on a daily basis but it seems the HPFP loves the stuff.
    SYVECS Standalone l Motiv Port Injection with Fuel It Stage 3 LPFP l MFactory LSD l CFS Racing Radiator l m3 front and rear control arms l ST Coilover System Vargas Stage 2+ Fully Upgraded Turbos l Vargas Inlet System l VRSF DP | VRSF FMIC | Alpina TCM Flash | BMS Trunk Meth l Nitrous Express Dry l Evolution Raceworks Charge Pipe with n20/meth bungs l Vargas HPFP Upgrade v1 l Agency Power Exhaust with n55 mid pipes l Apex AERO-7 Lightweight Wheels l Toyo R888s



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    STG1s…are those larger comp wheels, untouched turbine side? I’ll check Tony’s website.
    Great numbers, but would wonder about backpressure and shelf life if the wheels haven’t been touched. But def appears to be a solid upgrade over stock turbos.
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    Looks good but pushing 17.5psi at 7k rpms is asking for another 18 hour turbo replacement. Just because the turbos can hold it and hit boost doesn't mean its good for them. Need to see the dyno chart to see how efficient the hp is at the 7k rpm area to see if it is even worth pushing to 17.5.

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    you can not go by that conversion factor.. many mustang dynos actually read high as well due to calibrations, inputs on your cars weight, gearing etc...

    However you car is clearly running well as the formula is there... boost + solid timing = power that we are aware of...

    The map3 curve is universal but its nice to see them hold that boost level...

    sooo moral of the story is go get a trap speed Click here to enlarge hehe
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    Yeah as I said this isnt my car and I dont know the owner. He just posted it up on that other forum and I didnt think he also posted over here. I was pretty impressed with the initial data.
    SYVECS Standalone l Motiv Port Injection with Fuel It Stage 3 LPFP l MFactory LSD l CFS Racing Radiator l m3 front and rear control arms l ST Coilover System Vargas Stage 2+ Fully Upgraded Turbos l Vargas Inlet System l VRSF DP | VRSF FMIC | Alpina TCM Flash | BMS Trunk Meth l Nitrous Express Dry l Evolution Raceworks Charge Pipe with n20/meth bungs l Vargas HPFP Upgrade v1 l Agency Power Exhaust with n55 mid pipes l Apex AERO-7 Lightweight Wheels l Toyo R888s



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    Impressive. I've got these currently on my FBO 1M but yet to have it dynoed. All I can say is I'm very happy with them. Tony knows the deal when it comes to turbos.
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    Yeah, that's pretty good, Vargas testing showed 471whp I believe on their own set when they did the Stage 1 release. That's pretty damn good if you ask me, especially when RB's and VTT S2B2 are having to be pushed pretty hard to see 500whp, and are said to only be reliable in the 480-490 whp range.
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    BMS's E92 did 481whp on stock turbos. I found the thread on Terry's forum. Doesn't make the Stage 1 seem that much better.
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    That is one solid log. Looks very promising and a very nice price for turbos for sure. Now if we could only get more data on the ST2B2 turbos.......
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by cleancutx Click here to enlarge
    BMS's E92 did 481whp on stock turbos. I found the thread on Terry's forum. Doesn't make the Stage 1 seem that much better.

    Ya but how long did it hold the power for??? Exactly.

    Peak numbers are great but the powerband is what matters.

    This car is pushing 17psi to redline. That's pretty good.

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    I understand... Area under the curve.


    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by triggz Click here to enlarge
    Ya but how long did it hold the power for??? Exactly.

    Peak numbers are great but the powerband is what matters.

    This car is pushing 17psi to redline. That's pretty good.
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    This guy was honestly such a pleasure to work with. He was very quick to install and get numbers as he promised he would, most people never do that even if they say they will. To answer the questions above, these are bigger billet GTX style wheels, with a 7 degree clipped turbine, the clipped turbines and bigger comp wheels will give them a lot more ability to hold boost as the clipping helps cut back pressure down. Glad to see he got this info up so quickly. I will tell you this, we haven't been able to keep stage 1's in stock, they are selling better than just about anything else right now. Everyone who gets them is happy..Click here to enlarge We are very happy to see some more numbers..Click here to enlarge

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by VargasTurboTech Click here to enlarge
    This guy was honestly such a pleasure to work with. He was very quick to install and get numbers as he promised he would, most people never do that even if they say they will. To answer the questions above, these are bigger billet GTX style wheels, with a 7 degree clipped turbine, the clipped turbines and bigger comp wheels will give them a lot more ability to hold boost as the clipping helps cut back pressure down. Glad to see he got this info up so quickly. I will tell you this, we haven't been able to keep stage 1's in stock, they are selling better than just about anything else right now. Everyone who gets them is happy..Click here to enlarge We are very happy to see some more numbers..Click here to enlarge
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    Would these turbos be okay with holding 16-17 psi to redline over time? the billet wheel upgrade must help keep shaft speeds down right? (that's what she said lol) Either way, those results are most impressive, and that car+owner looks to me like a happy camper!
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