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    Do they have a email that I could reach them? Afghanistan problems lol
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by TVPhoto Click here to enlarge
    Do they have a email that I could reach them? Afghanistan problems lol
    provenpowerdyno@gmail.com they can do top mount, we discussed it when we did mine, almost pulled the trigger on it, but decided against.
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    @mjmarovi PM box is full. Got some other way to message?
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by TVPhoto Click here to enlarge
    @mjmarovi PM box is full. Got some other way to message?
    Should be good now, I cleared it out. Downpipe fitment was one reason, keeping more heat away from that area of the engine bay was another. Also don't really see anything too fancy about seeing a turbo, but seeing a nice manifold is very cool IMO. You can actually still look down and see the turbo, WG, etc. Entire engine bay is so much more spacious than before. I love it man, I really do.
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    seriously are you going to wing it or what ?? answer should be yes of course
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by lamia2super Click here to enlarge
    seriously are you going to wing it or what ?? answer should be yes of course
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    Seriously, a custom turbo kit isn't something you should 'wing it'. FYI the reason the top mount is better is because it gives you room for a full size twin scroll T4 housing which gives you better spool and great top end.

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    wing it
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Dave W. Click here to enlarge
    Seriously, a custom turbo kit isn't something you should 'wing it'. FYI the reason the top mount is better is because it gives you room for a full size twin scroll T4 housing which gives you better spool and great top end.
    Huh? lmao they are talking about installing an actual wing. And why is a T4 twin scroll better? V-band is the way to go bud, and from what I can if me or @Ak335i were to drop down to a single croll 58mm turbo like Terry's we'd be spooling just as fast. There is someone else running the same exact turbo as mine that no one knows about yet and he is spooling just as fast or faster than Terry, thanks to his manifold design. And that's a 62.5mm single scroll. I think quickest spool is going to be the Vargas TT kit anyway as long as you keep the turbos small.
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Ak335i Click here to enlarge
    wing it
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Ak335i Click here to enlarge
    wing it
    yes ! help me explain to him that he needs to add a wing ! because race kar

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    lag be gone

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    something I've seen ppl do with supras to spool a little quicker
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by lamia2super Click here to enlarge
    yes ! help me explain to him that he needs to add a wing ! because race kar

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    btw proper manifold design > Twin Scroll

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by VargasTurboTech Click here to enlarge
    btw proper manifold design > Twin Scroll
    This.

    A QSV will also help.
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by VargasTurboTech Click here to enlarge
    btw proper manifold design > Twin Scroll
    Proper twin scroll manifold > all
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by fastgti69 Click here to enlarge
    Proper twin scroll manifold > all
    If this is in reference to your manifold design, no offense but it leaves a quite a bit to be desired. It will work fine, but there is a lot of room for improvement. I hope to see these super long runner manifolds go the way on the dinosaur on these N54's soon except for people with built motors shooting for 1000WHP+, or just looking for top end. They simply are not needed and are inefficient, I do not think you guys understand how much exhaust energy and heat(more energy) is being wasted in these manifolds, while none of the top end benefits they might show are even being realized.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by VargasTurboTech Click here to enlarge
    If this is in reference to your manifold design, no offense but it leaves a quite a bit to be desired. It will work fine, but there is a lot of room for improvement. I hope to see these super long runner manifolds go the way on the dinosaur on these N54's soon except for people with built motors shooting for 1000WHP+, or just looking for top end. They simply are not needed and are inefficient, I do not think you guys understand how much exhaust energy and heat(more energy) is being wasted in these manifolds, while none of the top end benefits they might show are even being realized.
    This is very true, and before my manifold was built I had this discussion with the shop, they could easily modify the manifold for quicker spool and less power potential, but I'm still not sure how far I want to go so didn't want to end up having to re-do the manifold. Who knows where Dan will stop either so for us it's perfect. It will be interesting where I can hit 30psi though with just a smaller turbo than Dan who is hitting 20psi at like I dunno, 3750 or something I think? Not bad really. I'm honestly really interested though to see some smaller turbo optioned stage 3 kits from you. Like something targeting ~630whp. Would be interested to see if anyone can use your kit for autox even. I mean, I don't see why not with the right turbos.
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    i have a lil more lag than some of the other kits, but im also out there running the car near daily and posting up vids and races and dynos unlike the other kits other than Adam who runs the $#@! out of his (props monica) i know payam and matt will be doing the same as well when they dial in so will be good summer.


    but yea lag... said it before say it again, i honestly have no desire or want to have my kit spool faster than it does. it works perfect for me and it drives around and gets good mileage when im not racing.

    a lil break boost and i have no prob leaving from a 40 or 60 roll with 20plus psi.

    my car will really shine with a new transmission. where i can use the 700 plus whp it so easily makes Click here to enlarge

    at the end of the day the differences in the spool of all these kits and custom kits is minor and wont be noticed other than by nitpicking a log. the main differences and the only ones that potential new single turbo/VS3 ppl should be worried about are price, options, looks and power potential along with tuning.

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    BMW hasn't gone twin scroll by accident. There really is something to it. On our development cars the 5862 TS setup spools better than the 5858 traditional setup and makes more power. The trade off is its more work to develop quality TS manifolds, requires dual wastegates, makes packaging trickier, so it becomes more expensive. For someone doing a 6466 race car I can see why it might not be worth the extra cost/effort. For someone who appreciates power below 4500rpm then it's a must have IMHO.
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    Am I the only one around here that typically race from digs?




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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Legionofboom Click here to enlarge
    Am I the only one around here that typically race from digs?
    Can't quite get the fascination with highway runs. I feel it takes more work to dial in a car for dig races is where I'll see most of my racing duties. But that's also because I have awd and an auto.
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Legionofboom Click here to enlarge
    Am I the only one around here that typically race from digs?
    When people ask me for rolls, I tell them to go to a bakery.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Legionofboom Click here to enlarge
    Am I the only one around here that typically race from digs?
    Single turbos are awful from a dig and the larger the turbo the worse it is. From a dig RB turbos will smoke most single turbo options. But from a roll its another story all together. These days with all the runway events most race from a 40-50mph roll.

    I think our 135i is setup to do decently from a dig but the track is not often open around here. Next time there is a planned drag day I'll definitely bring it out and give it a whirl.
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by VargasTurboTech Click here to enlarge
    If this is in reference to your manifold design, no offense but it leaves a quite a bit to be desired. It will work fine, but there is a lot of room for improvement. I hope to see these super long runner manifolds go the way on the dinosaur on these N54's soon except for people with built motors shooting for 1000WHP+, or just looking for top end. They simply are not needed and are inefficient, I do not think you guys understand how much exhaust energy and heat(more energy) is being wasted in these manifolds, while none of the top end benefits they might show are even being realized.
    Never stated my manifold. Funny though, I replied to you in the other thread about our manifold and what we have done and no reply. One statement here and you're assuming things that may not even be correct. You're still more than welcome to come here, I really want you to drive my car.
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