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    N63 in the 11s... 11.9@118!

    badblack550ix has done it again using his BMS Stage2 tune & downpipes! Dinan who? Click here to enlarge
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    First 11 second N63, BMS Stage II tuned F10 550xi goes 11.9@118 in the 1/4 mile - Comparison to Dinan Stage 2 550xi

    It was just a matter of time and now the N63 V8's are in the 11's in the 1/4 mile with bolt on modifications. This all wheel drive F10 550xi has a BMS Stage II tune along with downpipes. That is enough to break into the 11 second range with a 11.943 @ 117.94 1/4 mile run. As the sedan is all wheel drive this was done on street tires and the 60 foot is a pretty good 1.743. Now let's put this performance in perspective versus the Dinan Stage 2 tune.

    The BMS box costs roughly ~$400. Seriously, that is not a typo and a zero is not missing. The Dinan Stage 2 tune costs $3,499.00. The Dinan tune gets you a 12.5 @ 112 in the 1/4 mile. That Dinan badge on the trunk may impress people who do not know N63 V8 tuning options but everyone else with the 'cheaper' tune on their 550i will be too far in front to see it.

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    What trans is in this car?

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    Fuel?

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Stevenh Click here to enlarge
    Fuel?
    Good question. Just assume race gas.

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    Terry Burger, a turbo BMW's best friend.

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    Race gas mix on the fuel.
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    No question that BMS is the better value, but not a great comparison with the Dinan time (although, I doubt they even offer a race gas file).

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    The times are what they are...

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    Actually if really comparing to Dinan there is a better comparison. Another 550 Xi w/ OEM downpipes (so really tune only) ran 12.0@117. IIRC a bit of race gas mixed in there too. But fewer mods.
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    I could live with a 12 second 550xi for a DD!

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    so is BMS going to be the king of S55B30 tuning? Click here to enlarge assuming you can get in of course

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by rawad1017 Click here to enlarge
    so is BMS going to be the king of S55B30 tuning? Click here to enlarge assuming you can get in of course
    Flash tuning is going to be the king as always especially when turbo upgrades are factored in but there will also be a piggyback market as always.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by rawad1017 Click here to enlarge
    so is BMS going to be the king of S55B30 tuning? Click here to enlarge assuming you can get in of course
    I'll have the first car in Socal. Looking forward to seeing what we can do! Click here to enlarge
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    What did this car run without the downpipes?

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Droptopp Click here to enlarge
    What did this car run without the downpipes?
    Not sure.

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    Low 12's I think, but that was with a different tune as well (Stage 1)

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    Dinan is just an over priced SUPER CONSERVATIVE tune that probably bumps boost 3-4psi at the most...Dinan, if im not mistaken, doesnt really have any knowledge about the basics of the way that turbochargers work on bmw motors as good as Terry does... The only car dinan started to play with was the N54 car and that car being there highest kit, which is the stage 3 kit doensnt even hit 15psi of boost??? There N54 stage 3 is only tuned, has a spearco upgraded intercooler, I must say A VERY WELL DESIGNED CARBON FIBER INTAKE SYSTEM THEY HAVE FOR THE N54 IS BAD ASS!!! i Know they do have an excellent exhaust that gets rid of some of the back pressure... All that would cost well over $4K. for I think 400bhp? thats NOT to the tires. And this is with there full stage 3 kits so you get your nifty little dinan 3 badge lol. They could have gone wild with the N54 but i dont think they knew what they were doing compared to Burger Motorsports...Thats just my personal opinion. If i do end up geting the M4, I know I'm going to have to wait some till the end of next month or the beginning of may for sure until we get to play around with that and see what that s55 motor can do. My car is going to stay stock until Terry releases something but I do know one thing, you will def be getting ALL your money's worth. $400 bucks and probably 100whp and up from there, how can you go wrong? Dinan products and staff seem to be a little behind on there turbo technology and how its going to work with direct injection and valvetronics ect... seem to be alot less knowledgable of what the car can handle and superchargers are more DINAN's deal. lol but even doing a dinan supercharged E46 m3, it still only makes like 400whp...maybe

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by boostaholic786 Click here to enlarge
    .Dinan, if im not mistaken, doesnt really have any knowledge about the basics of the way that turbochargers work on bmw motors as good as Terry does...
    Dinan was turbocharging S14's decades before Terry ever decided to release a piggyback.

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    I'm not a Dinan fanboy and kudos to Terry, because what they just accomplished is impressive, but it is tough to compare Dinan with a tuner like BMS or Cobb or Vishnu. Dinan has built a brand around matching BMW's warranty, not providing the best value (because they definitely aren't) or the fastest times. Because of that, they will always be more conservative in what they do. BMS, Cobb, Vishnu, etc can and will (thankfully Click here to enlarge ) push the limits more. That doesn't mean they aren't safe (I run one of those tunes myself), just means they aren't having to balance the cost of warranty repairs vs. setting records and adding significantly more power.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by richpike Click here to enlarge
    I'm not a Dinan fanboy and kudos to Terry, because what they just accomplished is impressive, but it is tough to compare Dinan with a tuner like BMS or Cobb or Vishnu. Dinan has built a brand around matching BMW's warranty, not providing the best value (because they definitely aren't) or the fastest times. Because of that, they will always be more conservative in what they do. BMS, Cobb, Vishnu, etc can and will (thankfully Click here to enlarge ) push the limits more. That doesn't mean they aren't safe (I run one of those tunes myself), just means they aren't having to balance the cost of warranty repairs vs. setting records and adding significantly more power.

    -Rich
    We understand the differing philosophies and approaches. Look, BMS and Dinan are vastly different in scope and accomplishment. That said, it looks like Dinan is now chasing the dollar. What I am calling into question is his integrity. How can he put out a video like that and then backtrack so quickly to chase dollars?

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
    We understand the differing philosophies and approaches. Look, BMS and Dinan are vastly different in scope and accomplishment. That said, it looks like Dinan is now chasing the dollar. What I am calling into question is his integrity. How can he put out a video like that and then backtrack so quickly to chase dollars?
    What do you expect him to do? He's going to play up what he thinks makes him special ("safe" tuning), versus the piggybacks ("unsafe" tuning). In the end, he probably realizes his market is shrinking given what the more powerful tuners are doing for less money. So he's going to play on a few folks' inherent risk aversion and hope that he can continue to charge that small few exorbitant prices. And there will always be some willing to pay (out the nose) for that.

    -Rich

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by richpike Click here to enlarge
    What do you expect him to do? He's going to play up what he thinks makes him special ("safe" tuning), versus the piggybacks ("unsafe" tuning). In the end, he probably realizes his market is shrinking given what the more powerful tuners are doing for less money. So he's going to play on a few folks' inherent risk aversion and hope that he can continue to charge that small few exorbitant prices. And there will always be some willing to pay (out the nose) for that.

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    Did you read this? http://www.bimmerboost.com/content.p...-F13-M5-and-M6

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
    Where's the embarrassed icon? No, I hadn't seen that. Definitely appears to be hypocritical.

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