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    1000+hp saad racing turbo kit e46 m3 getting "vanos delete installed today"

    recently broke the vanos system for the 2nd time this year on our dyno run! car made 1000+rwhp in doing so!!

    contacted vac for the vanos delete kit and purchased + installing it today numbers and build progress to continue...........



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    Dont remove vanos.

    I bough vanos block off kit and tested on dyno: huge loss of power from 2300 till 5700 rpm.

    Just fix the vanos.

    Vanos removal wont harm power band only if the M3 is used for DRAG ONLY. Launch control / build boost off the line / take off / never ever drop below 5000 rpm during 1/4 mile run. This is where you can remove vanos. But if the M3 will be a Daily driven car put back vanos, shift power band to the left side.
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    will post dyno graphs as soon as were finished. at 1000 rwhp car is not "daily" driven, going for record hp on e46 build.

    max@undercover

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    also reason for removal vanos was broken 2 times already!

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by max@undercover Click here to enlarge
    also reason for removal vanos was broken 2 times already!
    Which part of the vanos?
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by max@undercover Click here to enlarge
    will post dyno graphs as soon as were finished. at 1000 rwhp car is not "daily" driven, going for record hp on e46 build.

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    you have to make atleast 1260Whp ....

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Mikecoupe Click here to enlarge
    you have to make atleast 1260Whp ....
    To damage vanos? Wouldn't it be more about pressure than just power? Different setups will results in different amounts of pressure on the motor regardless of power output. For example, Stage 2 turbo upgrades on E92 N54's over single turbos. Stage 2's with their large amount of backpressure put a lot more stress on the motor than most think, but only push ~500rw
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by mjmarovi Click here to enlarge
    To damage vanos? Wouldn't it be more about pressure than just power? Different setups will results in different amounts of pressure on the motor regardless of power output. For example, Stage 2 turbo upgrades on E92 N54's over single turbos. Stage 2's with their large amount of backpressure put a lot more stress on the motor than most think, but only push ~500rw
    Pretty sure he was referring to the HP required to claim the HP record for the E46...

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    will post dyno graphs as soon as were finished. at 1000 rwhp car is not "daily" driven, going for record hp on e46 build.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by lulz_m3 Click here to enlarge
    Pretty sure he was referring to the HP required to claim the HP record for the E46...
    correct hp quote for the record is what were going after, and yes its not about sheer power output but also engine rate of acceleration change over stock

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by max@undercover Click here to enlarge
    correct hp quote for the record is what were going after, and yes its not about sheer power output but also engine rate of acceleration change over stock
    I thought the record was 14xx no? and stock ECU record was 13xx? I may be wrong...and probably am...
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    there are a lot of "phantom" numbers out there, what we end up making ill post with verification and dyno specs and video content.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by max@undercover Click here to enlarge
    there are a lot of "phantom" numbers out there, what we end up making ill post with verification and dyno specs and video content.
    This S54 engine(1260Whp) is tuned by Andreas from PPF Sweden and i am almost sure that he used the VANOS with these numbers.
    This car has made the first 9sec pass in the world, no "phantom" numbers from Sweden believe meClick here to enlarge
    There is a thread about on E46fanatics,maybe here also...

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by mjmarovi Click here to enlarge
    To damage vanos? Wouldn't it be more about pressure than just power? Different setups will results in different amounts of pressure on the motor regardless of power output. For example, Stage 2 turbo upgrades on E92 N54's over single turbos. Stage 2's with their large amount of backpressure put a lot more stress on the motor than most think, but only push ~500rw
    Obviously he meant to get the record.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by max@undercover Click here to enlarge
    will post dyno graphs as soon as were finished. at 1000 rwhp car is not "daily" driven, going for record hp on e46 build.

    max@undercover
    That would be very, very big for you guys. I hope you get it!

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by max@undercover Click here to enlarge
    recently broke the vanos system for the 2nd time this year on our dyno run! car made 1000+rwhp in doing so!!

    contacted vac for the vanos delete kit and purchased + installing it today numbers and build progress to continue...........

    Did you have stock vanos settings when the vanos system broke twice?

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by daytonaM3 Click here to enlarge
    Did you have stock vanos settings when the vanos system broke twice?
    It will not have a bad effect on vanos mechanical parts if the settings are oem settings.

    I would like everyone to keep vanos and benefit its cylinder filling capabilities.

    If vanos is broken, check mechanically.

    My S50 B32 had a vanos failure just today, it was stuck at full advance, we found out a new selenoid
    is needed. So yes vanos helps a lot but it needs to be checked.

    Another note about "rate of acceleration" is not a valid cause for failure of vanos. Imagine, the
    rate of acceleration of a bone stock M3 in neutral gear. Can our 1000 + whp S54s rev faster in any gear compared
    to bone stock S54s in neutral gear? N O. But stock S54s vanos keep on working even if we rev fully in neutral.
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    The vanos continued to fail. Twice. Same way. It would take 100dc% at certain moments to keep it in line, exhaust only. May have been a failing accumulator, I'm not sure. However this car has made big power for years and quite some miles. Other cars in the honest 650ish whp have never had an issue. I'm a huge fan of vanos. It works and it works great. But it will not exist in this car again.
    Were not done with tuning. Still on wastegateClick here to enlarge Trying to see who really has a record and is the motor still together?

    Any links to the highest power s54 is appreciated.
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    I probably run as much boost as you do fuel pressure

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    I don't know who has the record but the HPF Stage IV setups were over 1000: http://www.bimmerboost.com/showthrea...eel-horsepower

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    Yeah...... Makin more than that sticky. On a 7675. At 5 lbs less boost and girly timing!
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    I probably run as much boost as you do fuel pressure

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    Worried about the block and mains. Although I'd love to find the limit on a proven motor. I don't think the customer would appreciate it.
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    I probably run as much boost as you do fuel pressure

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by undercover Click here to enlarge
    Yeah...... Makin more than that sticky. On a 7675. At 5 lbs less boost and girly timing!
    Well we all would not mind seeing a graph!

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    Haven't revved past 7500 yet. On wastegate(25psi), so theres boost and torque to be had from the gate cracking a low boost. No bottle yet. .958 correction. Calling it a night and discussing with customer before going farther. Proefi Hp are within a percent of dynojet. So my concerns for the block are quite valid. Not giving specs on the motor, but I will say, its basic.



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    I probably run as much boost as you do fuel pressure

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    Well that's certainly pretty healthy! Are you planning to take it further without nitrous?

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    absolutely. At this point nitrous will only be used on launch and in between shifts. This turbo and combination is amazing.
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    I probably run as much boost as you do fuel pressure

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    btw. Had a oops and made 830 on 93oct by accident. 22psi. Always seem to make a little more boost on ethanol.
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    I probably run as much boost as you do fuel pressure

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