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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Terry@BMS Click here to enlarge
    We've done a few local M5 installs and I have some photos floating around. We'll be updating the guide for them shortly. On fueling the same Stage1 limitations apply. Meaning you can run +2-3psi levels. Beyond that need stronger fuel and timing control as our N63 Stage2 has.
    Thanks for the info Terry .

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by rdeterman Click here to enlarge
    on 93octane.. lets see some E85 runs

    Been behind a few new F10 M5's here... great looking car (sound not so much) but with the above and E85 around 700 whp makes it compelling competition for my new M4 purchase
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    E85 is not compatible with the tuning on these platforms, yet. Maybe some day once we have the ability to create a back end flash to go along with the piggyback.
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    ive been Running my N63 on +4PSI for about 4k miles now with no issues so far on 100 cotane.. car is daily driven for about 8k miles on +2.5 PSI with no issues on Shell 93.

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    Terry, what is the limitation right now to making more power? Is this as far as you can tune to right now or is there a mechanical limitation you've run in to? I would love to get back into one of these when they can make 750whp+

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    On the s63tu I've really not spent much time trying to tune beyond the Stage1 levels. So can't answer that yet...
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    We just put one in on a 2014 M6, along with filters/carbon deletes/full meisterschaft Titanium exhaust Click here to enlarge
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by alex@ABRhouston Click here to enlarge
    We just put one in on a 2014 M6, along with filters/carbon deletes/full meisterschaft Titanium exhaust Click here to enlarge
    Customer happy with the result I hope? Click here to enlarge
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    We need to get a USB cable (of our own) to adjust the setting
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    Working with customers s63tu's is tempting me to go out and pick up our own. The ~470rw from the n63 just isn't cutting it anymore. I'll go see what's out there.

    Don't worry n63 guys we'll still keep our 2011 as well for development. Click here to enlarge Our collection is starting to get ridiculous. Fortunately Jon just bought a home with space to build the 8 car garage of his dreams. We'll be able to tuck some BMS cars in there.
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    That would be impressive...

    You can always talk to me about picking up project cars as well. I'm not against picking up rides that benefit the forum.
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by alex@ABRhouston Click here to enlarge
    We need to get a USB cable (of our own) to adjust the setting
    The setting change isn't that important. Technically if you don't make it the only drawback is the tune runs around 1/2psi more aggressively than its set at.
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    Got the settings changed. HOLY CRAP. big difference.

    seems backwards? who cares, the car is stupid fun to drive Click here to enlarge
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    @Legionofboom @Terry@BMS Wouldn't bigger turbos be hard to do due to placement and space constriction┐┐??
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    No idea.. Maybe hybrid turbos? But I wonder with good E85 tuning if we can't make 700rw with the ones on there. Working with my dealer on an M5. Can't decide if the competition package is worth it though. Leaning no.
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Terry@BMS Click here to enlarge
    Can't decide if the competition package is worth it though. Leaning no.
    It is not.

    Although if they toss it in for free...
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    Got a guy getting rid of a F10 M5, if your interested. Silver sedan, all the goodies with (another) full polished titanium exhaust (with the electric cutouts on the mufflers.... like 8K in exhaust!)
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
    It is not.

    Although if they toss it in for free...
    I think it's 8k lol. I'm set on the blue color. Looked at a used 2013 base one but they want $81k @ 17k miles and won't budge. While a new 2014 with a few options is $96k and fully loaded w/ competition package around $108k. Although if I lease it which I'm leaning towards they are fairly close together in price.
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by alex@ABRhouston Click here to enlarge
    Got a guy getting rid of a F10 M5, if your interested. Silver sedan, all the goodies with (another) full polished titanium exhaust (with the electric cutouts on the mufflers.... like 8K in exhaust!)
    Thanks but I really have my heart set on the blue. Plus I like the OEM exhaust. Stealthy FTW. Click here to enlarge
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Terry@BMS Click here to enlarge
    I think it's 8k lol. I'm set on the blue color. Looked at a used 2013 base one but they want $81k @ 17k miles and won't budge. While a new 2014 with a few options is $96k and fully loaded w/ competition package around $108k. Although if I lease it which I'm leaning towards they are fairly close together in price.
    My Cayenne had $18k in options. I didn't even pay for half.
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
    My Cayenne had $18k in options. I didn't even pay for half.
    They are basically willing to go 8-10k off retail depending on the options. I'm friends with many of the guys at the dealership so I don't want to beat them up too hard but the businessman in me always wants to get a deal. I think I'll sleep on it and decide on the package tomorrow.
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Terry@BMS Click here to enlarge
    Thanks but I really have my heart set on the blue.
    The blue is beautiful, what interior?? Funny to see that m5 be faster than the 135 with just some e85!!
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
    It is not.

    Although if they toss it in for free...
    The question should be does it make it a significantly more fun car to drive. The answer to that is a resounding yes. Ive driven both the regular M6 and the competition M6 at high speeds on the german autobahn and my 2014CP obviously here in the states. I'll list the package parts in order of driving experience improvement.
    1.) Steering feel. Much shorter ratio , combined with stiffer bushings and a recalibrated hydraulic unit makes a huge difference in steering feel, you are much more connected to what the front tires are doing.
    2.) Power increase: I know it says 15 hp but i wouldn't be surprised if its quite a bit more than that. A local stock CP M5 with a 119 DA just ran 11.7 @124 here in SC, he posted it up on drag times , prob the first doc stock CP M5/ M6 quarter . My car with DP's is doing 11.4 @128.5 by GPS (got to get it to the strip soon!. But again thats not the important part, the engine makes all the extra power above 5500 rpm! The motor pulls much harder above 6k in the CP vs the regular (very noticeable in 4th gear pulls on the autobahn) to the point it IS FASTER shifting at 7k and a tuon more fun to ring it out.
    3.) Mdiff : The new programing is excellent , it lets you be a hooligan 30 degree slip but puts the power down like no rear wheel drive car I have ever driven. It intervenes often in 1st and 2nd but never kills the party and nails perfect wheel slip almost all the time Click here to enlarge.
    4.) Suspension: Really nice job on this as well , its equivalent in feel in sport mode to a KW V# coil over on moderate settings. Really reduces body roll substantially vs the standard car, extremely noticeable improvent in rear end feel at the limit, and on high speed lane changes.
    5.) Exhaust: Sounds much more aggressive than stock, too quiet with stock DP's , but comes alive with DP's. For once I'm not planning on changing my rear section on a car. Lots of burbles and pops on decel , and the black chrome looks great.
    6.) Free wheels : I opted for the forged 343 20 inches instead of the CP wheels , up to personal taste but the 20's are an option almost everyone gets that costs money.
    7.) Not part of the CP but I got the Carbon ceramics : Best stock brake system I've ever used , no fade under any situation and the near 50 pounds of unsprung weight saved on the car is noticeable. It is nice not having dirty wheels after 5 minutes too.
    You def can get good deals, I ordered my car custom and got invoice , so there are def deals to be had on in stock cars. I went Singapore grey with SO interior , epic colors!
    Just my two cents, being a track guy , this CP makes it a much much better car.

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