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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Eleventeen Click here to enlarge
    Soooo, N54 is not the new 2JZ?
    the 2j won't throw a rod if it goes epic lean and detonates?

    $#@!, i think i need to get me one of them!
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Terry@BMS Click here to enlarge
    Between you and me I'm seriously disappointed with what BMW did with it. I really wanted an s63 in it. Or at least another 500cc. But, it will be a fun new project. Just hope they left a little room in the turbos for us to play with. Click here to enlarge
    given you've built your company up so highly in the turbo BMW world, i think everyone would be more than a little disappointed without you in the S55 scene Click here to enlarge

    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by BlackJetE90OC Click here to enlarge
    They could have easily made a larger displacement motor. Leads one to believe they did it on purpose to keep it from stepping on the M5/M6 toes, even with aftermarket help.
    yeah, when they went from 4.0 to 4.4 on the N63/S63... i can agree with the not wanting to get too close to the S63 though at least factory :/. no reason it wouldn't aftermarket though.
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by bobS Click here to enlarge
    Get ready for the newest procede for the s55....guaranteed he's all over that platform
    The S55 is going to turn into a tuner war quickly.... Easily will involve Shiv/Vishnu vs. Roman/ESS vs. Terry/BMS vs. COBB vs. Neil + Tym/Swizter (already attacking the F1x M5/M6). And if Switzer gets involved, expect AMS to follow soon after.



    If the S55 generates even 1/3 of the GTRs aftermarket attention (BMW/German Refinement, RWD, TT Motor, DCT & 6MT Trans, etc), it'll def attract some big players to address the DI situation and a legit DCT upgrade (Dodson, Shep Trans, etc). All depends how stout the motor is / how it responds to mods (does it hold up like the N54 or like the N20 when you crank up the boost), and how much a pain in the ass this electronic boost controlling is. The last one I'm interested in to see how the DME fights back when you requests an extra 4 psi (or whatever).
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by benzy89 Click here to enlarge
    The S55 is going to turn into a tuner war quickly.... Easily will involve Shiv/Vishnu vs. Roman/ESS vs. Terry/BMS vs. COBB vs. Neil + Tym/Swizter (already attacking the F1x M5/M6). And if Switzer gets involved, expect AMS to follow soon after.
    Ha...can't wait to hear the BMW community complain about a $60k Alpha package for the M3/M4.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by BlackJetE90OC Click here to enlarge
    Ha...can't wait to hear the BMW community complain about a $60k Alpha package for the M3/M4.
    LOL I was just thinking that when i read the comment a couple of replies back about switzer/ams lol.
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by BlackJetE90OC Click here to enlarge
    Ha...can't wait to hear the BMW community complain about a $60k Alpha package for the M3/M4.
    hey, if they're anythiing like they are for the GT-R... well it's not a TOTAL ripoff haha
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Terry@BMS Click here to enlarge
    Between you and me I'm seriously disappointed with what BMW did with it. I really wanted an s63 in it. Or at least another 500cc. But, it will be a fun new project. Just hope they left a little room in the turbos for us to play with. Click here to enlarge
    i hope they did too, since it's 18psi stock... Hopefully M has built another gem
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    It doesn't look like much healthy boost will be left in those S55 OEM turbos given 18psi OEM boost targets.
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by BlackJetE90OC Click here to enlarge
    Ha...can't wait to hear the BMW community complain about a $60k Alpha package for the M3/M4.
    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Stucks Click here to enlarge
    LOL I was just thinking that when i read the comment a couple of replies back about switzer/ams lol.
    $60k is a drop in the puddle for a GTR aftermarket, won't even get you over 1k HP. Going off the Jotech website, it'll buy you a AMS Alpha 9 Package (Built Motor/Trans) or their Stage 3 Package (Upgraded Turbos/Stock Motor & Trans) with the spare cash to build a trans.

    Which is kinda ridic since E9x M3 owners are easily spending north of $20k on their stock motor M3s between superchargers, full exhaust & a set of wheels or coilovers (or both) -- Not including labor.
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    The m3 wont be able to touch a GTR though. It wont be able to hook like one.

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    Porche turbos will remain only viable GTR contenders. Actually, it should really be worded the other way around as the porsche turbo was one of the key original targets Nissan had in mind to beat (if not THE target) when they worked on the initial R35 GTR.
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by rudypoochris Click here to enlarge
    Its ppeculiar to me why they went so small displacement wise. Drivability is based on the displacement so it would make sense to me to throw in a few more CCs to use less boost and have a better street performance. BMW leaves very little room to bore or stroke their new motors too which makes it worse. There is no replacement for displacement, literally. Wish it was a 3.5-4.5L.
    Agree with this strongly but they put way too much emphasis on keeping the M3 below the M5/M6 in acceleration. It's an idiotic artificial barrier to protect M5 owners egos.

    Spend some time on M5board and you will see that BMW made the right decision in doing so as those old guys get their little peckers bent out of shape pretty quickly when their precious M5 gets smoked.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by BlackJetE90OC Click here to enlarge
    Ha...can't wait to hear the BMW community complain about a $60k Alpha package for the M3/M4.
    I can't wait for them to want to advertise it.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by rudypoochris Click here to enlarge
    The m3 wont be able to touch a GTR though. It wont be able to hook like one.
    I don't see why not.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by dzenno@PTF Click here to enlarge
    Porche turbos will remain only viable GTR contenders. Actually, it should really be worded the other way around as the porsche turbo was one of the key original targets Nissan had in mind to beat (if not THE target) when they worked on the initial R35 GTR.
    Vipers, Vettes, Gallardos, GT500's, don't exist? All of these are capable of more HP.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
    Vipers, Vettes, Gallardos, GT500's, don't exist? All of these are capable of more HP.
    None of those race from digs vs high hp GTRs. All about that 60-200mph life.




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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Legionofboom Click here to enlarge
    None of those race from digs vs high hp GTRs. All about that 60-200mph life.
    You would have to prep them for the strip. Rear wheel drive American muscle rules the drag strip and always will.

    Racing horsepower these days is about going from a roll to allow the cars to stretch their legs. All wheel drive is definitely nice at a stoplight though.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Flinchy Click here to enlarge
    the 2j won't throw a rod if it goes epic lean and detonates?

    $#@!, i think i need to get me one of them!
    Nope, 2JZ can make 2,000 WHP on stock internals... Actually, you can get there flash only on 91 octane. They are made of adamantium.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
    Agree with this strongly but they put way too much emphasis on keeping the M3 below the M5/M6 in acceleration. It's an idiotic artificial barrier to protect M5 owners egos.

    Spend some time on M5board and you will see that BMW made the right decision in doing so as those old guys get their little peckers bent out of shape pretty quickly when their precious M5 gets smoked.
    They should just give the M5/M6 AWD then or push for higher top speeds since they have more HP out of the box. Doesn't make sense to cap at 3L... Its so small.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by rudypoochris Click here to enlarge
    They should just give the M5/M6 AWD then or push for higher top speeds since they have more HP out of the box. Doesn't make sense to cap at 3L... Its so small.
    They bumped the power on the M5. They also will go AWD with the next gen as they pretty much have to.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Eleventeen Click here to enlarge
    Nope, 2JZ can make 2,000 WHP on stock internals... Actually, you can get there flash only on 91 octane. They are made of adamantium.
    LOL Wolverine drives one when he's off the clock.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Eleventeen Click here to enlarge
    Nope, 2JZ can make 2,000 WHP on stock internals... Actually, you can get there flash only on 91 octane. They are made of adamantium.
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
    You would have to prep them for the strip. Rear wheel drive American muscle rules the drag strip and always will.

    Racing horsepower these days is about going from a roll to allow the cars to stretch their legs. All wheel drive is definitely nice at a stoplight though.
    No a proper drag strip car is not comparable to a alpha12 GTR, you CANT drive them on the streets, You can't have other people in them.

    (most) drag racing cars that runs <9's are not driving on the street like GTRs.




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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Legionofboom Click here to enlarge
    None of those race from digs vs high hp GTRs. All about that 60-200mph life.
    I agree ... with the exception of the gallardo they are AWD as well and have superior Power to weight ratios than the GTR. Now with they're new syvecs tuning they are starting to improve again and get their crown back from the GTR. A UGR Gallardo with the R2 package with syvecs just smashed the standing mile with 20.xx time and over 255 MPH in a standing mile Click here to enlarge

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by dzenno@PTF Click here to enlarge
    Porche turbos will remain only viable GTR contenders. Actually, it should really be worded the other way around as the porsche turbo was one of the key original targets Nissan had in mind to beat (if not THE target) when they worked on the initial R35 GTR.
    Gotta disagree Dz, LSX powered street cars have been driving to the strip, running mid sevens and then driving home for the better part of a decade. GTRs still aren't about that life.
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