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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Laloosh Click here to enlarge
    You sent customers to those people for 1 of 2 reasons:
    1. you simply couldnt do it
    2. you don't offer what they want

    The other tunes are all small fish in this industry. Everybody knows its a jbs/procede martket and anyone else running something else is simply ignored or going a different route.

    What has giac accomplished? They have sponsored track cars. Mr.5 trapped 117ish on it in a full out effort.
    What is AA known for? lol nothing
    What is cpe known for? Being ignored while providing a custom tune
    What is Dinan known for? Overpriced for those who don't want warranty issues
    What is the jb3 known for? Cheap fast and copies other
    What is the procede known for? Creating new feature, cocky tuner that jb3 boys don't like.
    Wow talk about an ignorant post..
    Yes all BMS does is copy others, that is why they offer a tune for numerous BMW platforms (N52, 35d, and also an N55 tune on the works) as to where procede only works with the N54. In all of your post its blatantly obvious that you have complete hatred towards BMS, what happened did Terry marry your high school sweetheart or what?

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by RambleJ535 Click here to enlarge
    Yes all BMS does is copy others, that is why they offer a tune for numerous BMW platforms (N52, 35d, and also an N55 tune on the works) as to where procede only works with the N54
    Very good point. Laloosh argues the V4 can do everything yet in actuality the JB architecture supports more platforms.

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    It is funny to hear these claims of copying. Sure certain features wind up on both tunes, and that goes both ways, but the JB platform has nothing in common with the PROcede platform. If we wanted to copy we would have called Haltech like Shiv did 3 years ago. Instead we wanted our own platform where we could control the costs and do things the way we wanted to do them. Last time I added it up there were over 10,000 of our tunes out there in use so we must be doing something right. Click here to enlarge

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
    Very good point. Laloosh argues the V4 can do everything yet in actuality the JB architecture supports more platforms.
    Jb architecture supports more platforms? what?
    I know of 3, n54, n55 MAYBE, 328
    Procede, evo/sti/n55/n54/ms3/6 and probably others that I don't care about.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Terry@BMS Click here to enlarge
    It is funny to hear these claims of copying. Sure certain features wind up on both tunes, and that goes both ways, but the JB platform has nothing in common with the PROcede platform. If we wanted to copy we would have called Haltech like Shiv did 3 years ago. Instead we wanted our own platform where we could control the costs and do things the way we wanted to do them. Last time I added it up there were over 10,000 of our tunes out there in use so we must be doing something right. Click here to enlarge
    What you are doing right is marketing....

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Laloosh Click here to enlarge
    Jb architecture supports more platforms? what?
    I know of 3, n54, n55 MAYBE, 328
    Procede, evo/sti/n55/n54/ms3/6 and probably others that I don't care about.
    Haltech supports quite a few more than that! Click here to enlarge

    http://www2.haltech.com.au/index.php...=155&Itemid=17

    http://www2.haltech.com.au/downloads...ist15nov08.pdf

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Laloosh Click here to enlarge
    What you are doing right is marketing....
    Marketing is really not my thing. What we do well is make a diverse lineup of products that work well and are priced right. When you actually design your own stuff you have that flexibility. We have many markets locked up right now including the entry level N54 market. What we need now is more advanced hardware to lockup the top of the N54 market. And we're making good progress on that goal. You'll see. Click here to enlarge
    Last edited by Terry@BMS; 10-28-2010 at 05:46 PM.

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    i dont really think is "COPYING" when you produce similar products... just like anything out there one company comes out with something and there competitor comes out with something just like it but in there own style...

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Laloosh Click here to enlarge
    Jb architecture supports more platforms? what?
    I know of 3, n54, n55 MAYBE, 328
    Procede, evo/sti/n55/n54/ms3/6 and probably others that I don't care about.
    He might be in those markets but I have friends who own just about every kind of car you listed. The evo guys don't really run his piggyback (everyone flashes), he had a good record with STis lol, and I have a friend with an MS3 who was pretty active around the Internet and he said he didn't know of too many people who actually had it.

    I'm not saying limit your market to just one brand but if you are good at it them stick to that. Sure, I am a mechanic and can work on anything thrown my way but I know BMWs and Porsches best so I try to focus my work in those areas.

    As the saying goes, he who thinks he knows everything knows nothing.

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    Well I already stated why the other markets crapped out, open ecu. The same thing would happen with the n54. No offense tot he tuner, but if a REAL tune comes out, its game over for them and their piggybacks.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Laloosh Click here to enlarge
    Jb architecture supports more platforms? what?
    I know of 3, n54, n55 MAYBE, 328
    Procede, evo/sti/n55/n54/ms3/6 and probably others that I don't care about.
    N54, N55, N52, and M57. There are differences between the boards but BMS does support far more platforms, this is true.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Terry@BMS Click here to enlarge
    What we need now is more advanced hardware to lockup the top of the N54 market.
    There is a lot more you can do and I actually have some ideas that I think would really, really advance your base significantly but not sure if you are interested hearing them.

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