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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Q4P Click here to enlarge
    Solid traps, you now match an FBO N54 lol.
    lol! if only most stock turbo e90 n54's could run low 11's @ 123+. These are RB N54 times he's posting, and fast ones at that.
    Change is constant

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Q4P Click here to enlarge
    Solid traps, you now match an FBO N54 lol.
    Pretty sure stock turbo n54 trap record is 122mph so let's not get carried away here.
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Q4P Click here to enlarge
    Solid traps, you now match an FBO N54 lol.
    Except how much tuning, and time spent tweaking that tune to get those FBO traps, lets see what the first FBO car did on the track with limited tuning and a boost cap. I am not sure how much more that turbo has in it, but I guarantee it has more. That turbo is just waking up at 20 psi down low, how much it can eventually hold, only time will tell.

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    Nice update on the footer, Tony! Click here to enlarge

    Very impressed with the outcome of your kit and am excited to see what happens when the 3.5bar sensor is pushed and opens up that boost cap...I take it orders are now shipping?


    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by VargasTurboTech Click here to enlarge
    Except how much tuning, and time spent tweaking that tune to get those FBO traps, lets see what the first FBO car did on the track with limited tuning and a boost cap. I am not sure how much more that turbo has in it, but I guarantee it has more. That turbo is just waking up at 20 psi down low, how much it can eventually hold, only time will tell.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by iuhutch Click here to enlarge
    Nice update on the footer, Tony! Click here to enlarge

    Very impressed with the outcome of your kit and am excited to see what happens when the 3.5bar sensor is pushed and opens up that boost cap...I take it orders are now shipping?
    We have 4 upgrades fully machined and ready to go, looks like 3 of them will be leaving next week, and one will be staying for an in house install. things could change, but we did just buy another 7 cores, so we now have 13 more cores all going out for machining.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by bigdnno98 Click here to enlarge
    Pretty sure stock turbo n54 trap record is 122mph so let's not get carried away here.
    I think you are wrong... check dragtimes. 123.9 has been seen. This was also on a car running 18psi on stockers on E85 no meth. Not saying this isn't solid... it certainly is over the stock N55 setup but it's still embarrassing when compared to the previous motor when there is tons of over 120 MPH cars on stockers.
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by bigdnno98 Click here to enlarge
    Pretty sure stock turbo n54 trap record is 122mph so let's not get carried away here.
    It's 125mph. Click here to enlarge But, was done with a lighter car.

    At ~470whp this N55 is faster than the average maxed out stock turbo n54 but not as fast as the average maxed out RB n54. There is hopefully a few more HP in this with more tuning time though.
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Terry@BMS Click here to enlarge
    It's 125mph. Click here to enlarge But, was done with a lighter car.

    At ~470whp this N55 is faster than the average maxed out stock turbo n54 but not as fast as the average maxed out RB n54. There is hopefully a few more HP in this with more tuning time though.
    lol... well... i guess 10 whp is worth something right, how about that 460 stocker dyno?

    Nah, I gotta stock hating. I look forward to seeing this go further; I just feel really bad for the individuals who bought an N55 thinking it was a new and updated N54 when in fact it's a true downgrade in terms of performance.
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Q4P Click here to enlarge
    lol... well... i guess 10 whp is worth something right, how about that 460 stocker dyno?

    Nah, I gotta stock hating. I look forward to seeing this go further; I just feel really bad for the individuals who bought an N55 thinking it was a new and updated N54 when in fact it's a true downgrade in terms of performance.
    Here is a fairly "fair" comparison of a aggressively tuned N54 stock turbo and the N55 VT. You can see the N55 has the edge here by maybe 15hp up top and there is still more in it. But I don't expect it will get near N54 RB levels nor should anyone expect it to. 470whp on an N55 is enough for mid 11s and makes for a strong car in its own right regardless of any N54 comparison.
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Terry@BMS Click here to enlarge
    Here is a fairly "fair" comparison of a aggressively tuned N54 stock turbo and the N55 VT. You can see the N55 has the edge here by maybe 15hp up top and there is still more in it. But I don't expect it will get near N54 RB levels nor should anyone expect it to. 470whp on an N55 is enough for mid 11s and makes for a strong car in its own right regardless of any N54 comparison.
    No doubt... I just wish another 35-40 WHP could come out of this... A touch north of 500 would be great.
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    Awesome results, Terry does not f%'K around, relentless dedication, and props to Tony for this upgrade allowing n55 guys to truly have a fast Street car now , no stock turbo n54 car is running 124 unless it's a 135 in - 2000 da or a car ran on the edge of death which this car is the polar opposite of Click here to enlarge
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    Turbo should be good for 30 psi with racegas in the midrange, if fueling permits. I can see this turbo hang with RB's or be in the same range easily. Turn up the boost Terry, these kind of turbos need it to be efficient. You're barely touching that turbos good side. LOL
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    That wheel combo has made 510@26psi. I know people running it at 34psi lol. If the engine hold up I'm betting Terry can hit the 500hp mark. I know the housing isn't the same as the Garrett offering but I'm still betting we eventually so 500hp here. Which will make an n55 with this turbo faster than an RB n54 once Cobb is able to adjust valvetronic tables.

    Waiting to see responses from n54 crowd lol
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    Need to check BP the before cranking it up but working on n55 3.5bar code as I type this. Click here to enlarge
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by bigdnno98 Click here to enlarge
    That wheel combo has made 510@26psi. I know people running it at 34psi lol. If the engine hold up I'm betting Terry can hit the 500hp mark. I know the housing isn't the same as the Garrett offering but I'm still betting we eventually so 500hp here. Which will make an n55 with this turbo faster than an RB n54 once Cobb is able to adjust valvetronic tables.

    Waiting to see responses from n54 crowd lol
    This wheel combo has made over 613 WHP in a .63 AR housing, on E85 made made 533 on 93 and meth .63AR.

    You can see all the examples I found here: http://www.bimmerboost.com/showthrea...854#post486854

    This Wheel combo is good for very high WHP numbers, we will just see where this housings caps at, but we are no where near to death levels, and the Garrett DBB CHRA's will last much much longer than an MHI once those death levels are found. I would dare as to say would last 10 times as long at levels that would kill an MHI JB CHRA. Bottom line, we will see what we can get, but there is more in there.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Terry@BMS Click here to enlarge
    Need to check BP the before cranking it up but working on n55 3.5bar code as I type this. Click here to enlarge
    As I mentioned checking BP after the turbo isn't going to tell you much, but a little so its prob worth it, you want to check it before the bottleneck to really see what it is getting up to, but doing that with the turbo on is basically impossible. As long as its not at prolonged levels or around 3:1 its not going to hurt anything. Can't wait to see the 3.5 tuning, throw a crap load of boost at it down low and see if it will hold 20-21 to redline...Click here to enlarge

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by bigdnno98 Click here to enlarge
    That wheel combo has made 510@26psi. I know people running it at 34psi lol. If the engine hold up I'm betting Terry can hit the 500hp mark. I know the housing isn't the same as the Garrett offering but I'm still betting we eventually so 500hp here. Which will make an n55 with this turbo faster than an RB n54 once Cobb is able to adjust valvetronic tables.

    Waiting to see responses from n54 crowd lol
    Just to clarify... this is a stock manifold / stock turbine housing setup? lol
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Q4P Click here to enlarge
    Just to clarify... this is a stock manifold / stock turbine housing setup? lol
    So is this stock location GTX3076r on a 4 cyl. 600hp
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by bigdnno98 Click here to enlarge
    So is this stock location GTX3076r on a 4 cyl. 600hp
    I am not 100% sure what you are saying but unless my comment is 100% true, then comparisons to RBs are ridiculous.
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Q4P Click here to enlarge
    Just to clarify... this is a stock manifold / stock turbine housing setup? lol
    Time to remove the lone hater from the thread. You are always gonna have at least one. Your efforts to start drama although valiant, are not going to continue. Happy Football

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    Geaux Saints lol
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by bigdnno98 Click here to enlarge
    So is this stock location GTX3076r on a 4 cyl. 600hp
    Lmfao. I forgot to paste the link haha

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Q4P Click here to enlarge
    I just feel really bad for the individuals who bought an N55 thinking it was a new and updated N54 when in fact it's a true downgrade in terms of performance.
    Oh, don't worry about that as they understand the limits of a low room-temperature equivalent IQ. Click here to enlarge

    One read of the BMW publication detailing the improvements of the N55 over the N54 would cure you of your misconceptions. Maybe the comic book edition will be out soon. Click here to enlarge

    When one looks at the S55, one realizes there are a lot more N55 design improvements in it than N54 legacy design. There is a reason it is not a revised S54. Click here to enlarge
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    Lightbulb Duh! Stupidity Knows No Limits!

    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by bigdnno98 Click here to enlarge
    Lmfao. I forgot to paste the link haha
    LYFAO! This is a BMW forum, not a Mitsubishi one! Click here to enlarge

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