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    Exclamation ***VIDEO*** 2013 Shelby GT500 vs 2011 Procharged 5th Gen Camaro SS

    Yes I know that this video does not have any bimmer, benz, porsche etc. in it, but still I thought you guys might like it. Enjoy...

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    So if the stang is making 60+ whp how is it getting beat this bad by the Camaro? Both cars are piggies, aren't tu camaros a little heavier too? Is driver skill?
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by leo985i Click here to enlarge
    So if the stang is making 60+ whp how is it getting beat this bad by the Camaro? Both cars are piggies, aren't tu camaros a little heavier too? Is driver skill?
    Centri's = beasts up top

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by leo985i Click here to enlarge
    So if the stang is making 60+ whp how is it getting beat this bad by the Camaro? Both cars are piggies, aren't tu camaros a little heavier too? Is driver skill?
    If they went from a dig and the mustang hooks it would eat the camaro every time. From a roll the camaro's set up is better than the stang.
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    Forgot to mention. Those cars sound beastly!!!
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    did the LEO chase?

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    Yeah those sound like racecars. Murica'




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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by leo985i Click here to enlarge
    So if the stang is making 60+ whp how is it getting beat this bad by the Camaro? Both cars are piggies, aren't tu camaros a little heavier too? Is driver skill?
    Not everything is about the peak power. It is not the first time maro in the vid, taking down a higher hp car... Its about knowing your cars weakness and working on it to get a better result. Both drivers are good, believe me.

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    Camaro should still weigh about 200 lbs less I would think...no?
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by mjmarovi Click here to enlarge
    Camaro should still weigh about 200 lbs less I would think...no?
    No. Actually in this vid, maro weights more than gt500

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by leo985i Click here to enlarge
    So if the stang is making 60+ whp how is it getting beat this bad by the Camaro? Both cars are piggies, aren't tu camaros a little heavier too? Is driver skill?
    Procharger on the Camaro is making tons of power up top (which really shines in roll racing), while the Roots on the GT500 is dying out.

    PLUS E85 on a supercharger setup will make more power, but it isn't going shine like if it was being used on a turbo setup... You'll be able to run more boost (but not a super aggressive boost curve b/c you're limited by pulley sizing) and some more aggressive timing.
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    Gotcha!!!
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    Nice vid and runs as always!

    Sh*t that particular SS was a freak when it was N/A! I'n not surprised to see it doing work with the blower..
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by benzy89 Click here to enlarge
    Procharger on the Camaro is making tons of power up top (which really shines in roll racing), while the Roots on the GT500 is dying out.

    PLUS E85 on a supercharger setup will make more power, but it isn't going shine like if it was being used on a turbo setup... You'll be able to run more boost (but not a super aggressive boost curve b/c you're limited by pulley sizing) and some more aggressive timing.
    How do you know the mustang is dying out up top ? Any dyno runs ? Im sure the ported heads and cams play a big part on its top end power as well

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by ezec63 Click here to enlarge
    How do you know the mustang is dying out up top ? Any dyno runs ? Im sure the ported heads and cams play a big part on its top end power as well
    Because of what it is. You don't even need to see a plot.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by ezec63 Click here to enlarge
    How do you know the mustang is dying out up top ? Any dyno runs ? Im sure the ported heads and cams play a big part on its top end power as well
    Unfortunate consequence of running a Roots style blower (plenty of power low-mid RPMs, dies out as you approach redline)..... Maybe with the heads & cams the top end power doesn't die off as badly, but not enough to out do the Centri. I mean, regardless of which FI setup, you gotta give somewhere -- Roots/Whipples leave you wanting at the top of the rev range, Centris only give you power up top, and with Turbos you gotta decide between lag or sacrificing some power.
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by benzy89 Click here to enlarge
    Unfortunate consequence of running a Roots style blower (plenty of power low-mid RPMs, dies out as you approach redline)..... Maybe with the heads & cams the top end power doesn't die off as badly, but not enough to out do the Centri. I mean, regardless of which FI setup, you gotta give somewhere -- Roots/Whipples leave you wanting at the top of the rev range, Centris only give you power up top, and with Turbos you gotta decide between lag or sacrificing some power.
    Thats why you gotta own at least 3 cars with different setups(turbo/centri/PD), to solve the problem Click here to enlarge

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
    Because of what it is. You don't even need to see a plot.
    Well with proper heads and cams the PD should not die off up top unless its being pushed past its efficiency range which i have no idea what size blower the gt500 is running. I mean look at the weistec cars they aren't pushed past their efficiency range and are put on an engine that has pretty good stock heads(m156) you see the graphs they don't die out up top and have big low/mid range torque.

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    especially the blowers on the SLS (M159) with its improved intake manifold, and more aggressive cams they make power all the way up to redline. Doubt the stang has anywhere near the Volumetric Efficiency as the M159 or M156 but it'd be nice to see a dyno lol

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by ezec63 Click here to enlarge
    especially the blowers on the SLS (M159) with its improved intake manifold, and more aggressive cams they make power all the way up to redline. Doubt the stang has anywhere near the Volumetric Efficiency as the M159 or M156 but it'd be nice to see a dyno lol
    Well there's the difference in Positive Displacement Blowers.... The GT500 is using a TVS Roots blower. Typically these are the most efficient superchargers at low/midrange RPMs, but like previously stated they die out up top. Weistec (etc) are using Twin Screw/Whipple blowers. While these aren't as efficient as the Roots blowers down low/midrange, they let you carry the power out to redline (basically, a compromise between the Roots & Centri)

    Centris obviously blows down low, but you can make monstrous power in the top half of the rev range. Similar to a turbo, until you are near/hit the boost target, you're not gonna really experience that power.
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by benzy89 Click here to enlarge
    Well there's the difference in Positive Displacement Blowers.... The GT500 is using a TVS Roots blower. Typically these are the most efficient superchargers at low/midrange RPMs, but like previously stated they die out up top. Weistec (etc) are using Twin Screw/Whipple blowers. While these aren't as efficient as the Roots blowers down low/midrange, they let you carry the power out to redline (basically, a compromise between the Roots & Centri)

    Good points ! Forgot that the mustang was a roots style blower i read over that and it didn't click at the time since I see a lot of the upgraded GT500's use whipples i thought they also had a twin screw blower from the factory. Did the factory 55 motors use a twin screw blower?

    Centris obviously blows down low, but you can make monstrous power in the top half of the rev range. Similar to a turbo, until you are near/hit the boost target, you're not gonna really experience that power.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by benzy89 Click here to enlarge
    Well there's the difference in Positive Displacement Blowers.... The GT500 is using a TVS Roots blower. Typically these are the most efficient superchargers at low/midrange RPMs, but like previously stated they die out up top. Weistec (etc) are using Twin Screw/Whipple blowers. While these aren't as efficient as the Roots blowers down low/midrange, they let you carry the power out to redline (basically, a compromise between the Roots & Centri)



    Centris obviously blows down low, but you can make monstrous power in the top half of the rev range. Similar to a turbo, until you are near/hit the boost target, you're not gonna really experience that power.
    Good points ! Forgot that the mustang was a roots style blower i read over that and it didn't click at the time since I see a lot of the upgraded GT500's use whipples i thought they also had a twin screw blower from the factory. Did the factory 55 motors use a twin screw blower?

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by ezec63 Click here to enlarge
    Did the factory 55 motors use a twin screw blower?
    Factory 55 motors? Like the E55 AMG? They were OEM equipped with a a Lysholm Twin Screw at 13psi, not sure about the blowers displacement
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by benzy89 Click here to enlarge
    Factory 55 motors? Like the E55 AMG? They were OEM equipped with a a Lysholm Twin Screw at 13psi, not sure about the blowers displacement
    Yup i meant the AMG 55 motors aka M113K. Pretty sure they flatten out uptop as well but that goes to show ya the heads/cams have just as big of a part in top end pull as does the type of blower used. And obviously running the blower in its efficiency range im sure the big whp 55 cars are over spinning the blower hard

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by ezec63 Click here to enlarge
    Well with proper heads and cams the PD should not die off up top unless its being pushed past its efficiency range which i have no idea what size blower the gt500 is running. I mean look at the weistec cars they aren't pushed past their efficiency range and are put on an engine that has pretty good stock heads(m156) you see the graphs they don't die out up top and have big low/mid range torque.
    You would have to see an M156 with a centri versus a twin screw to really see how the torque curves would differ. The centri will always continue to make more boost with RPM whereas there will be some dropoff with a positive displacement.

    What helps the M156 is a good curve designed for top end power to begin with.

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