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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by benzy89 Click here to enlarge
    Terry, what's gonna happen when the Vargas Stage 3s are released? It looks like that's your personal 135 and I don't know how many N54 shop cars you have left, but I assume one of the ST's will get swapped out?

    Awesome stuff & it already looks like the JB4 tuning is coming along real well.
    We decided to sign up with FFTEC for single turbo hardware for both of our N54s. But, I still have faith in Tony to deliver for you guys and will be happy to tune one if a customer shows up with it. Last week we sent one of our N55s up to Vargas for a hybrid turbo install. So we've not completely jumped ship. But at the end of the day I want proven solutions for the N54s and FFTEC is top notch stuff.
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    @Terry@BMS what was your initial reaction to driving the 91oct tuned 6466 335i (567hp)say vs a race tuned RB car (520rwhp)? Does the added hp make up for the difference in torque between the two cars? Just curious since i would assume most of these cars will be driven more than weekend only.
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by rdeterman Click here to enlarge
    @Terry@BMS what was your initial reaction to driving the 91oct tuned 6466 335i (567hp)say vs a race tuned RB car (520rwhp)? Does the added hp make up for the difference in torque between the two cars? Just curious since i would assume most of these cars will be driven more than weekend only.
    It definitely should, hp will win up top. Torque will just keep you hanging with him. The rb will be right next to the 6466 in midrange, after 5krpm the 6466 should just pull trains.
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by rdeterman Click here to enlarge
    @Terry@BMS what was your initial reaction to driving the 91oct tuned 6466 335i (567hp)say vs a race tuned RB car (520rwhp)? Does the added hp make up for the difference in torque between the two cars? Just curious since i would assume most of these cars will be driven more than weekend only.
    As they are tuned now, from a 50 roll, the race tuned RB would run away from this car until around 100mph. The spool up is improving as I better tune it but best case is going to be 4000rpm with this large turbo. On the other hand, once it gets spooled, there is no touching it. The way boost comes on as tuned currently makes it difficult to control so I will work on improving that a bit. Ultimately the trade off is what you expect it to be. Low RPM power for higher RPM power. I imagine as it drives now is very similar to M3 guys twiddling their thumbs until the tach gets over 4500rpm. Click here to enlarge

    I am hoping the TS-5858 spools 500rpm faster. That would make it much more competitive with RBs from lower speeds and still walk all over them up top.
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by fastgti69 Click here to enlarge
    It definitely should, hp will win up top. Torque will just keep you hanging with him. The rb will be right next to the 6466 in midrange, after 5krpm the 6466 should just pull trains.

    And in theory the single should be easier/more efficient on the motor at a higher boost level? While not creating as much heat and reducing backpressure I would assume?
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Terry@BMS Click here to enlarge
    As they are tuned now, from a 50 roll, the race tuned RB would run away from this car until around 100mph. The spool up is improving as I better tune it but best case is going to be 4000rpm with this large turbo. On the other hand, once it gets spooled, there is no touching it. The way boost comes on as tuned currently makes it difficult to control so I will work on improving that a bit. Ultimately the trade off is what you expect it to be. Low RPM power for higher RPM power. I imagine as it drives now is very similar to M3 guys twiddling their thumbs until the tach gets over 4500rpm. Click here to enlarge

    I am hoping the TS-5858 spools 500rpm faster. That would make it much more competitive with RBs from lower speeds and still walk all over them up top.
    How much quicker would a 6266 spool vs the 6466? I think that might be the hardest thing to get used to since most stock/hybrid turbo guys are used to such instant spool. Although im willing to give it a shot Click here to enlarge
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    Yeah, no more rolling in to the gas at 40mph in 3rd and expecting the car to move. It's quite a change. I think on the AT front it will be a lot better as most people let the trans downshift anyway.
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    you're going to gain alot more than 500rpms from a 6466 to a TS 5858. i'd venture to say 700-1000rpms. i know not apples to apples but i gained 400rpms just going from an ordinary Garrett GT35r to an HTA35r. Same everything just different material wheels. you are going from a very large turbo to a pretty small turbo and going from a standard AR single scroll setup to a much larger AR TS setup. It's going to be night and day. I'm afraid that's going to be alot harder on your tranny than the 6466 though. Maybe the SS 6466 should have stayed on the AT and the TS 5858 went on the MT LOL

    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Terry@BMS Click here to enlarge
    As they are tuned now, from a 50 roll, the race tuned RB would run away from this car until around 100mph. The spool up is improving as I better tune it but best case is going to be 4000rpm with this large turbo. On the other hand, once it gets spooled, there is no touching it. The way boost comes on as tuned currently makes it difficult to control so I will work on improving that a bit. Ultimately the trade off is what you expect it to be. Low RPM power for higher RPM power. I imagine as it drives now is very similar to M3 guys twiddling their thumbs until the tach gets over 4500rpm. Click here to enlarge

    I am hoping the TS-5858 spools 500rpm faster. That would make it much more competitive with RBs from lower speeds and still walk all over them up top.
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by bigdnno98 Click here to enlarge
    agreed. 10.6 is my bet. we should start a pool. $25/time and winner take all LOL

    I would do that, must be 4 digits and mph Click here to enlarge

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Terry@BMS Click here to enlarge
    I imagine as it drives now is very similar to M3 guys twiddling their thumbs until the tach gets over 4500rpm.
    not all of us..

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Terry@BMS Click here to enlarge
    Shiv may be an FFTEC employee now for all I know or at least hangs around their shop a lot. He's always posting photos of their stuff, etc. He's welcome to poke around the car and help as long as all PROcedes are kept within 15' of it. Click here to enlarge
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by bigdnno98 Click here to enlarge
    you're going to gain alot more than 500rpms from a 6466 to a TS 5858. i'd venture to say 700-1000rpms. i know not apples to apples but i gained 400rpms just going from an ordinary Garrett GT35r to an HTA35r. Same everything just different material wheels. you are going from a very large turbo to a pretty small turbo and going from a standard AR single scroll setup to a much larger AR TS setup. It's going to be night and day. I'm afraid that's going to be alot harder on your tranny than the 6466 though. Maybe the SS 6466 should have stayed on the AT and the TS 5858 went on the MT LOL
    Yeah, I know what you mean on the trans. But I don't think it will be any harder than the 500#ft coming off the factory and RB turbos at lower RPM...
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by LostMarine Click here to enlarge
    not all of us..
    heh I'll have to drive a supercharged M3 one of these days. Click here to enlarge
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Terry@BMS Click here to enlarge
    heh I'll have to drive a supercharged M3 one of these days. Click here to enlarge
    needs to be the right one Click here to enlarge

    One of these days im either coming out there, or bringing you out here.. we need to have a face-off Click here to enlarge

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    lol that would be fun. But I'd pay $1 to see you and Shiv face off down the track. Click here to enlarge
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    I'm waiting for them to ship my top mount also
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Terry@BMS Click here to enlarge
    lol that would be fun. But I'd pay $1 to see you and Shiv face off down the track. Click here to enlarge
    Heh, I'll double that!

    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by rdeterman Click here to enlarge
    And in theory the single should be easier/more efficient on the motor at a higher boost level? While not creating as much heat and reducing backpressure I would assume?
    Comparing a big single to stockers or rb's yes it will be easier and more efficient on the motor. Less psi, more air flow = more power safer. Less heat and back pressure would most likely happen in that as well lol.

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    How much quicker would a 6266 spool vs the 6466? I think that might be the hardest thing to get used to since most stock/hybrid turbo guys are used to such instant spool. Although im willing to give it a shot
    Here you go, comparison between 6266 vs 6466 vs 6766 on 3.4l 2jz.

    The 6466 and 6766 are very close in hp and the 6266 and 6466 are almost identical in spool. The 6466 is probably one of the best turbos for this application. I can't wait for mine!

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    @Terry@BMS, what's the AR and turbine size on the 5858 vs 6466 that you got?

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Linracing Click here to enlarge
    But I believe it was due to the was Vargas came off to him. (disrespected)
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by dzenno@PTF Click here to enlarge
    @Terry@BMS, what's the AR and turbine size on the 5858 vs 6466 that you got?
    Ahh, that's what I forgot to ask. I want to know the AR for the 6466 that got dynod. That spool is very impressive at 4k.

    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by benzy89 Click here to enlarge
    Well you were wrong.... Taking guesses & spreading rumors
    I believe I heard or read that somewhere too... Just saying.
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by benzy89 Click here to enlarge
    Well you were wrong.... Taking guesses & spreading rumors
    He's not incorrect. But, it's more complicated than just a few forum posts so I'd say that is a gross oversimplification. But the bottom line is I want real hardware that works today and FFTEC can provide that to us.
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Terry@BMS Click here to enlarge
    lol that would be fun. But I'd pay $1 to see you and Shiv face off down the track. Click here to enlarge

    HA! If he wont even talk to you, i dont think he'd line up with me Click here to enlarge

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Terry@BMS Click here to enlarge
    He's not incorrect. But, it's more complicated than just a few forum posts so I'd say that is a gross oversimplification. But the bottom line is I want real hardware that works today and FFTEC can provide that to us.
    I want to see your car and that beautiful turbo sitting up top!!
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    This damn TS top mount kit is going to be SO BADASS! I can't wait to see a MT car slap a 6766 on it with a big TS turbine housing and built motor! lol For now we'll all drool over Terry's TS 5858 on the 1er.
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by benzy89 Click here to enlarge
    Well you were wrong.... Taking guesses & spreading rumors
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