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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by mithiral67 Click here to enlarge
    Terry, I have a similar set up than the OP minus the meth. Looking at the logs, we are at about the same timing and boost at around 6k rpms. What do I need to do get up to his level without pushing the turbos any harder? Cause 70 more whp is bonkers.

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    Epic. Welldone, i hope to see similar power figures when i get mine back from the RB install.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by rader1 Click here to enlarge
    Find a really high reading dyno...
    LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by rader1 Click here to enlarge
    Find a really high reading dyno...
    It's the same dyno I've always used at SpecialtyZ since 2007. It could read 2-3% high compared to other dynojets. I have no real way of knowing. I just show up and do the runs and out comes the result. But, the factory stock 535i I dyno tested a couple months ago didn't think it read very high. Also attached is an old 135i factory stock baseline years ago run on the same dyno. It's rare I get 100% stock cars on pump gas to test these days but most I've tested in the past have done in the 280-290whp range.

    Also for the record I don't put too much faith in dyno numbers. It's on road performance that really matters. This 335is was running very strong at the last runway event and hopefully he does the same this weekend.
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    Does 335is have suspension upgrades etc over 335i ?
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    I believe the is has shorter springs on all four corners. Not sure on the rest of the suspension components.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Busta7777 Click here to enlarge
    i would love to see high 10s
    gota give me that launching secret i cant pass 2.3 60 feet imagen with rbs lol
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    Congrats - Looking forward to some Shift Sector vids.
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Group.america Click here to enlarge
    Does 335is have suspension upgrades etc over 335i ?
    Don't think so. Believe its the 335i M sport suspension. I have read it has some upgraded bushings & motor mounts but have never checked the part numbers.
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    Stock cars dynoing in the 280-290 range on pump would mean around a 20-30whp higher reading dyno than an average Dynojet where bone stock N54s dyno in the low 260whp range. That would put these numbers in the 520-530 range which is still quite strong for 20psi. What was the actual target timing? The log shows only cylinder 1 and looking at a single log its hard to say what you actually target and what are timing corrections.

    Funny though, 5th gear pulls on the dyno were considered unacceptable/cheating when i posted the results a few weeks back even though I explained it was done due to 5th being a 1:1 gear on the DCT cars. Now that seems to be ok and the way to do it and get some records Click here to enlarge Terry?

    OP, your car is running strong. However, I would keep in mind that your DCT computer is not seeing true load values. They are needed for the transmission computer to prepare the tranny internals for smooth shifts protecting them from damage and premature wear which is especially important on a car driven hard most of the time.

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    And you get onto Terry for discussions in your threads. The whole "true load" is a joke at these power levels especially with the new Cobb codes. Don't get me wrong the advancement on the Cobb front is good/useful, but don't use inaccurate statements to indirectly market yourselves.

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    Hey @JoshBoody. I'm not sure what you found offending or inaccurate in my post. Having true load reported by the DME to the TCU is quite important at almost twice the OEM engine output. The TCU on both the DCT and 6AT cars will adjust transmission parameters based on load reported from the DME among other things. DME and the TCU communicate over the CANBus the entire time the car is running. I'm not sure why or even which advancement on the Cobb front you're bringing up either as I wasn't implying anything about any particular flash tuning platform. My post was talking flash tuning in general. That could also be the open source BB flash.
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    At these power levels VE is inaccurate. Load reported of 200ish is not relevant per the actual MAF. To get Cobb over Xpsi there's some rescaling involved in the tables so load of 200 is made to work with higher psi. Show us a MAF log at 20psi if I'm wrong. A piggy can report very similar loads of course. For the DCT tuning I doubt Terry is using the low load backend map.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by JoshBoody Click here to enlarge
    At these power levels VE is inaccurate. Load reported of 200ish is not relevant per the actual MAF. To get Cobb over Xpsi there's some rescaling involved in the tables so load of 200 is made to work with higher psi. Show us a MAF log at 20psi if I'm wrong. A piggy can report very similar loads of course. For the DCT tuning I doubt Terry is using the low load backend map.
    The closer you report to true load the better. Get a FBO DCT car, run both approaches, report back with your findings. You don't have to use Cobb. Use DimSport if you like or the BB free flash writer. I do think though that some tables won't be available with other flash options that do help a bit. Suggest you also book quite a bit of seat time as there's a lot in the tables already available from Cobb that helps things, stack or not. Find a buyer for your 335i yet?
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by dzenno@PTF Click here to enlarge
    Find a buyer for your 335i yet?
    Nah, just have it listed on the forums... Have to reduce mods and change clutch to actively market locally IMO. Will enjoy the cooler weather for a bit and then make some decisions. Thanks for asking... if you know anyone, send them my way. Setup perfectly for upped turbos!

    Hey, I was in Ottawa for half this last week.

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    For those who don't already know the transmission targets line pressure on torque vs. target torque. Load is just one component of the torque calculation. So, the notion that reporting less load means less line pressure is a false statement. Anyone lowering load would raise other parts of the torque calculation to make up the difference.
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    I honestly don't understand the confusion here. A ~20psi-~17psi and a 9-13 degree timing curve is pretty par for the course for RB cars and usually nets 500whp-520whp. Some cars run stronger than others but that would still mean anyone running this combo would average ~540whp on a dynojet and that's not happening.


    Let's just say Shiv posted that same log from a PROcede on E90 and was claiming those numbers. We'd be 15 pages deep into a thread about "how full of $#@! he is."
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    Would love to see these numbers on a Mustang Dyno rather than a Dynojet or perhaps "both" to get more realistic results.

    Then again, dynos don't really meant too much when it comes to performing in real world conditions and hopefully we will see some feed back on this. I am hoping to see good results

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by BuraQ Click here to enlarge
    Would love to see these numbers on a Mustang Dyno rather than a Dynojet or perhaps "both" to get more realistic results.

    Then again, dynos don't really meant too much when it comes to performing in real world conditions and hopefully we will see some feed back on this. I am hoping to see good results

    My 282 crank hp / 320 lbs-ft E39 540i dynoed 270 whp and 300 lbs-ft torque in stock form 93 octane a few months back when we all know it would be lucky in stock form to do 235/270......

    I think we over-emphasize dynos as a "MEASURE" on this forum rather than as the tool they were originally intended for which is allowing tuning and retuning to optimize for various conditions

    Forum members like trickcruiser who post time slip as well as dyno readings are more verifiable in the real world... not that I diasgree with OP's results just think we have too many dynos and not enough 0-60, 0-90, 60-100, 1/4 mile, 1/2 mile tests per se
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    At shift sector now. So far he's only trapping 150.xx the two runs of his I've seen. It is close to 85-90 degrees though...

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    152 my best time so far 18 psi
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    UGR twin turbo Gallardo just ran fastest pass so far 224.99 !!!!!!

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Busta7777 Click here to enlarge
    152 my best time so far 18 psi
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    SRanch335's best was around 155mph yesterday but he's at full boost @ 3160 car weight. So you're not too far off considering the lower boost and extra 250#. Any other N54s runs well today?
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