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    i know 3 1k+pcars are running 3 ugr lambos in a 3 weeks. having seen them all firsthand, my money is on a 2/3 pcar/lambo victory

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
    If you want to go further, you can get an old foxbody and run 8's for a fraction of the cost to do so with either of these.
    The Foxbody comparison is way off the radar, with either the Porsche or Lambo you're getting a Euro sports car and turning them into turn-key, 1k HP+ titans. If I had the money, as much novelty appeal the Lambo has (V10 wail, turbo boost whistle & curb presence), those things will wear off and you're never going to be able to compare it to the driving feel and reliability of the P-car.

    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by LostMarine Click here to enlarge
    i know 3 1k+pcars are running 3 ugr lambos in a 3 weeks. having seen them all firsthand, my money is on a 2/3 pcar/lambo victory
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    Give or take 5-8 years and I'll be posting of an HBK 911TT of my own, next to my F32 M4. Click here to enlarge

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by benzy89 Click here to enlarge

    The Foxbody comparison is way off the radar, with either the Porsche or Lambo you're getting a Euro sports car and turning them into turn-key, 1k HP+ titans. If I had the money, as much novelty appeal the Lambo has (V10 wail, turbo boost whistle & curb presence), those things will wear off and you're never going to be able to compare it to the driving feel and reliability of the P-car.


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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by benzy89 Click here to enlarge
    The Foxbody comparison is way off the radar, with either the Porsche or Lambo you're getting a Euro sports car and turning them into turn-key, 1k HP+ titans.
    No, the premise is HP per dollar. With a Gallardo you aren't getting an old VW bug on steroids. This can be flipped several ways.

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    as much novelty appeal the Lambo has (V10 wail, turbo boost whistle & curb presence), those things will wear off
    Um then why does anyone buy one in the first place?
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
    Um then why does anyone buy one in the first place?
    Cause it's a dick measuring toy, just with dollar signs instead..... It's def got more "sex" appeal than a Supra, GTR or Turbo P-car, but I think we can all agree that winning > everything else (like looking good)
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by benzy89 Click here to enlarge
    Cause it's a dick measuring toy, just with dollar signs instead..... It's def got more "sex" appeal than a Supra, GTR or Turbo P-car, but I think we can all agree that winning > everything else (like looking good)
    It's all a big dick measuring contest. So you lose a race against some uber fast modded car, so what? If I'm in a Lamborghini and pull up to a nice spot at that point you are racing wallets and not cars. And forever and ever Gallardo > 911.

    If you're in a 918 Spyder well then it's reversed. And a 918 Spyder can lose to this 911 Turbo. But does the 918 Spyder owner even care? He won the real race that matters.
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    i dunno.. eddies Pcar has me at "half-cocked" everytime i see it

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    Don't think a TT-Lambo gets this sexy

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    Beauty is in the eye of the beholder:

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by benzy89 Click here to enlarge
    For the haters, here's the car back in May when the owner switched over to a HTA3586 turbos & wanted to focus on setting his trap record. BTW, this car/owner has been invited to the
    10.9 @ 151?

    wtf is up with that ET rofl
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Flinchy Click here to enlarge
    10.9 @ 151?

    wtf is up with that ET rofl
    Its quite obvious if you watch the video....

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    BHT rans 30psi only. He still has more when he upgrades his fuel system
    Those hta3586 still has more.

    Hp to hp.....Porsche beat them all!

    Here is some NY Porsche which will come to the race


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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Flinchy Click here to enlarge
    10.9 @ 151?

    wtf is up with that ET rofl
    Like you quoted, he wanted to focus on setting his trap speed record. What's even more amazing is that BHT's car is NOT using a standalone EMS, so there's a TON of more power that could be exposed in the car, in addition to a lot of features that a ProEFI or Motec would offer (flat foot shifting, rolling anti-lag, advanced traction control management, significantly better fueling/tuning strategy, etc etc).
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by DFM Click here to enlarge
    Its quite obvious if you watch the video....
    i watched it again, and i'm not getting it?

    regardless of not launching hard, that's an INSANE trap speed for that ET?

    heck, if i'm not mistaken, you can even hear the 2step?

    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by benzy89 Click here to enlarge
    Like you quoted, he wanted to focus on setting his trap speed record. What's even more amazing is that BHT's car is NOT using a standalone EMS, so there's a TON of more power that could be exposed in the car, in addition to a lot of features that a ProEFI or Motec would offer (flat foot shifting, rolling anti-lag, advanced traction control management, significantly better fueling/tuning strategy, etc etc).
    yeah i'm still not getting how it's almost an 11.0 @ 151, it's a solid 2s+ slower than the trap would usually indicate? again, even without a proper launch or anything....?

    i'm not seeing a ton of traction loss either, or massively missed shifts.
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Flinchy Click here to enlarge
    yeah i'm still not getting how it's almost an 11.0 @ 151, it's a solid 2s+ slower than the trap would usually indicate?
    ET and trap are two different things. 151 means it has much more capability but there is a significant difference between the two and this is basically common knowledge...
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
    ET and trap are two different things. 151 means it has much more capability but there is a significant difference between the two and this is basically common knowledge...
    yeah i understand that traps are sometimes way higher than the ET would suggest... i'm just wondering 'why'?

    it's not babied heaps off the line, no traction issues, no missed shifts...?
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Flinchy Click here to enlarge
    yeah i'm still not getting how it's almost an 11.0 @ 151, it's a solid 2s+ slower than the trap would usually indicate? again, even without a proper launch or anything....?
    For comparison sack, a WR chasing stock turbo N54 is hitting high 10 seconds (like this car), but at a mid-120 MPH trap. And that's under optimal conditions & giving full effort from the launch.

    MEANWHILE, this car made a near 11 second pass but at at 151 MPH, meaning this car is probably only hitting its "stride" once it's in 3rd gear. Can't forget that this car wasn't built for 1/4 mile times (probably tons of lag in 1st, 2nd & beginning of 3rd), the owner instead focuses on 60-130 times and events like the Texas Mile (where it went 225 MPH) and the Houston 1/2 Mile (188 MPH).
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by benzy89 Click here to enlarge
    For comparison sack, a WR chasing stock turbo N54 is hitting high 10 seconds (like this car), but at a mid-120 MPH trap. And that's under optimal conditions & giving full effort from the launch.

    MEANWHILE, this car made a near 11 second pass but at at 151 MPH, meaning this car is probably only hitting its "stride" once it's in 3rd gear. Can't forget that this car wasn't built for 1/4 mile times (probably tons of lag in 1st, 2nd & beginning of 3rd), the owner instead focuses on 60-130 times and events like the Texas Mile (where it went 225 MPH) and the Houston 1/2 Mile (188 MPH).
    so what would that mean? extremely long gearing (was my first thought, but with THAT much power/torque, that can't be much of a hindrance), or in-gear boost limits?

    or that the the turbos barely spool in first, drops off boost into second, then it actually has a usable power band in third?
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Flinchy Click here to enlarge
    or that the the turbos barely spool in first, drops off boost into second, then it actually has a usable power band in third?
    I'm gonna go with this.... Let's look at another mainstream performance indicator: this Porsche has a 4.82 60-130, making it nearly 4 seconds faster than the N54 stock turbo record (which is on boost in every gear the second it leaves the line). And if we go to the N54 extreme (VFF900 twin scroll 6466 / 738 WHP), it managed a 6.28 60-130 with a -2.7 slope (max allowed is -3.0)​.
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    AWD doesnt mean no wheel spin. that car wasnt full boost all the way down the track on purpose, those cars dont really have lag, utra responsive.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Flinchy Click here to enlarge
    yeah i understand that traps are sometimes way higher than the ET would suggest... i'm just wondering 'why'?

    it's not babied heaps off the line, no traction issues, no missed shifts...?
    It is babied off the line. Going for trap to show HP while preserving the driveline is what you see there. ET is really all about the launch.
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
    It is babied off the line. Going for trap to show HP while preserving the driveline is what you see there. ET is really all about the launch.
    This is what I was getting at when I stated "its obvious of you watch the video."

    That is the opposite of a launch. slow clutch engagement, rolled into throttle.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by DFM Click here to enlarge
    This is what I was getting at when I stated "its obvious of you watch the video."

    That is the opposite of a launch. slow clutch engagement, rolled into throttle.
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