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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Team Plutonium Click here to enlarge
    But that is not the main problem, the main issue is too little clearance, it simply needs more, and coated bearing will make it much worse.
    I wrote part of the problem.

    Regarding VAC's coating, it has been discussed what the coating adds to the bearings. @Mike@VAC

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    custom coatings only add about 0.0003" of thickness- you cant hardly even measure that without precision equipment lol
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    Get some TriMetal rod bearings & right clearance to rebuild S60/S65 engine that can rev.9000rpm & don't increase stock NMAX (8250/8300). I.e bearings from: HK LMP2 V8 (from Engine Developments Ltd former JUDD Power engines.)

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by alex@ABRhouston Click here to enlarge
    custom coatings only add about 0.0003" of thickness- you cant hardly even measure that without precision equipment lol
    Yes, a yard stick won't do here.
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    Ok dumb question here.... I'm about to get a m3 once my 335 sells...am I crazy? This rod bearing issue is no joke. I guess changing oil every 3500 miles and getting a blackstone report every other change would help?

    If a car is running fine at 35-45k miles...isnt it safe to say it's not one of the cars with this issue? I'm looking at used m3's with that milage...
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    I'm getting mine redone on an E46 right now... better to spend the low $k than blow up when I go FI
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by bobS Click here to enlarge
    Ok dumb question here.... I'm about to get a m3 once my 335 sells...am I crazy? This rod bearing issue is no joke. I guess changing oil every 3500 miles and getting a blackstone report every other change would help?

    If a car is running fine at 35-45k miles...isnt it safe to say it's not one of the cars with this issue? I'm looking at used m3's with that milage...
    @bobS, it depends on the year of the car IMO. If it's an early e46 M3 (2001-2002 IIRC), they had issues with the rod bearing becoming misaligned - causing the crankshaft to move out of alignment... BMW had a TSB (or whatever it's called) - and fixed these - and you CAN see if the work has been done, and/or if the engine is one that has the bad bearings.

    I haven't heard of many people having issues other than the ones in the above boat. I almost think that the S65 is worse off than the S54 in this regard if the S54 has been repaired.

    I guess blackstone reports are good and all, but 3500 mile oil changes is a little much IMO. I go every 5k in my car, and the computer tells me it's fine; however, I am a bit concerned due to the fact that I probably have spent most of the car's life at or above 4k RPM (even at 90 MPH on the highway in 7th gear it's right around 3700) - but so far it's been fine. Once the engine is out of warranty, I will have someone rip it apart and replace the bearings, until then - if it fails, I'll let warranty pick it up. Point is, I wouldn't be as concerned with the previous gen.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by inlineS54B32 Click here to enlarge
    @bobS, it depends on the year of the car IMO. If it's an early e46 M3 (2001-2002 IIRC), they had issues with the rod bearing becoming misaligned - causing the crankshaft to move out of alignment... BMW had a TSB (or whatever it's called) - and fixed these - and you CAN see if the work has been done, and/or if the engine is one that has the bad bearings.

    I haven't heard of many people having issues other than the ones in the above boat. I almost think that the S65 is worse off than the S54 in this regard if the S54 has been repaired.

    I guess blackstone reports are good and all, but 3500 mile oil changes is a little much IMO. I go every 5k in my car, and the computer tells me it's fine; however, I am a bit concerned due to the fact that I probably have spent most of the car's life at or above 4k RPM (even at 90 MPH on the highway in 7th
    gear it's right around 3700) - but so far it's been fine. Once the engine is out of
    warranty, I will have someone rip it apart and replace the bearings, until then -
    if it fails, I'll let warranty pick it up. Point is, I wouldn't be as concerned with
    the previous gen.

    Well I'm going for a 09-10 m3.... So I guess I'll choose wisely and replace the rod bearings before going FI
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by bobS Click here to enlarge
    Well I'm going for a 09-10 m3.... So I guess I'll choose wisely and replace the rod bearings before going FI

    Ahh sorry about that. For some reason I thought I remembered you wanting an e46 before. Talk to VAC - they have solutions for this and have a lot of knowledge. I am sure you will be good. It's a great engine. These things are over reacted to IMO.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by inlineS54B32 Click here to enlarge
    Ahh sorry about that. For some reason I thought I remembered you wanting an e46 before. Talk to VAC - they have solutions for this and have a lot of knowledge. I am sure you will be good. It's a great engine. These things are over reacted to IMO.
    That's what I'm telling myself too... I plan to hang onto this m3 for a long while. Since it's not my daily I'll only put 3-5k miles a year on it. I also want to go FI..... We'll see
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    Just built my motor and oem bmw rod bearings for the e46 m3 was bought from the dealer and they came coated. They did not have the color spec I needed and had to get it from Germany. I am not sure if it was a new part number or what but they certainly came coated from the dealer.

    I would shy away from changing the specs on the crank when you can get a thicker bearing. This is just my preference

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by m54b25 Click here to enlarge
    Get some TriMetal rod bearings & right clearance to rebuild S60/S65 engine that can rev.9000rpm & don't increase stock NMAX (8250/8300). I.e bearings from: HK LMP2 V8 (from Engine Developments Ltd former JUDD Power engines.)

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    Just did an oil analysis on a new customer and his new-to-him S85...... 70K on the clock, and the oil report came back looking great!
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by alex@ABRhouston Click here to enlarge
    Just did an oil analysis on a new customer and his new-to-him S85...... 70K on the clock, and the oil report came back looking great!
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
    Looks like a large variance among the cylinders?
    All of the upper shells show copper,some more,some less....

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    How much longer would that motor have lasted before a bearing change was absolutely necessary?

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    probably about 5-6k more miles. you should see everyone tripping out on M5board about this lol glad i don't have to worry about it for a while
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
    How much longer would that motor have lasted before a bearing change was absolutely necessary?


    It was absolutely necessary at this point already.

    It would have had severe damage(means damaged crank journals or a rod having the urge to see the daylight) within the next 1-2k.

    I just wrote a long essay regarding people wanting to file a complain at BMWNA for that "bearing issue" stuff.
    I can copy it and create a new thread over here to discuss,if you want to,Joseph.
    Think it might be quite interesting as my point is it is nothing else than engine maintenance like on many other engines the timing belt change at similar mileage for similar cost.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by S62R Click here to enlarge
    I just wrote a long essay regarding people wanting to file a complain at BMWNA for that "bearing issue" stuff.
    I can copy it and create a new thread over here to discuss,if you want to,Joseph.
    Think it might be quite interesting as my point is it is nothing else than engine maintenance like on many other engines the timing belt change at similar mileage for similar cost.
    I think that would be a very interesting read.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
    I think that would be a very interesting read.

    Will do it today.

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    I saw two M6 convertibles come in last month both around 50k with this exact issue. Both of them were not owned by enthusiasts. Starting to think the 10w60 is too thick on cold start and causing the issue. It appears that cars that are driven less are more likely to have the issue.

    Anyone with a s65 or s85 should be doing blackstone reports at every oil change.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by S62R Click here to enlarge
    Will do it today.
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