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    I will win.

    How much torque does your car have and does it put the power down in a way that you can get good traction?

    I was wondering because I just watched a pile of videos of that nice new C7 Stingray and no gaffer can get it to get off the line and do anywhere near their projected 0-60 times (in reality)

    I would really love to see one of the Maximum PSI Stage 2 E46 700+ whp cars versus the Sticky Gintani Stage 2 E9x 773 whp....... say over a 1/4 mile, 1/2 mile and 1 mile that would be a thrill !!!
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    How much torque does your car have and does it put the power down in a way that you can get good traction?

    I was wondering because I just watched a pile of videos of that nice new C7 Stingray and no gaffer can get it to get off the line and do anywhere near their projected 0-60 times (in reality)

    I would really love to see one of the Maximum PSI Stage 2 E46 700+ whp cars versus the Sticky Gintani Stage 2 E9x 773 whp....... say over a 1/4 mile, 1/2 mile and 1 mile that would be a thrill !!!
    My car doesn't have 773 whp that's just what the dyno showed at a certain rpm. I'm amazed people don't understand and keep referring to me racing 700 whp cars as if that will be much of a race.

    Secondly, the M3 is low torque and high revving by nature making power by multiplying a flat curve with rpm. A centrifugal builds torque with revs so torque increases as you are moving. Traction is less problematic with such a setup than with a turbo. Doesn't feel as fast but feeling fast isn't being fast.
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    Secondly, the M3 is low torque and high revving by nature making power by multiplying a flat curve with rpm. A centrifugal builds torque with revs so torque increases as you are moving. Traction is less problematic with such a setup than with a turbo. Doesn't feel as fast but feeling fast isn't being fast.

    Yes, understand the power at rpms etc I am an engineer (well was a long time ago) .... I asked if you had trouble getting traction off the line as the E9x S/C and E46 turbo set ups I have seen at your type of WHP nos slip and slide all over the place... I was guessing your torque at about 500 lbs-ft or thereabouts

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    Yes, understand the power at rpms etc I am an engineer (well was a long time ago) .... I asked if you had trouble getting traction off the line as the E9x S/C and E46 turbo set ups I have seen at your type of WHP nos slip and slide all over the place... I was guessing your torque at about 500 lbs-ft or thereabouts

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    I see. I don't know everyone's background and my statements were not necessarily directed at you but for general reference so please don't take them personally. There are those who don't understand the relationship between gearing and torque.

    Regarding traction, yes, it's more difficult. However, I could hook with my supercharged M3 on drag rubber. I intend to lengthen my gears as well. On a bias-ply slick I don't foresee trouble. On street tires, of course.

    Yes, my torque is in the 5XX range which is not really all that bad.
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    I see. I don't know everyone's background and my statements were not necessarily directed at you but for general reference so please don't take them personally. There are those who don't understand the relationship between gearing and torque.

    Regarding traction, yes, it's more difficult. However, I could hook with my supercharged M3 on drag rubber. I intend to lengthen my gears as well. On a bias-ply slick I don't foresee trouble. On street tires, of course.

    Yes, my torque is in the 5XX range which is not really all that bad.

    No problem mate... for the record... my late father was an auto design engineer at GM (Holden), Isuzu, Opel, Vauxhall and GM for 35 years as was my uncle, all my friends' Dads, my brother etc etc... sadly I was an electronic engineer which appears to be more pertinent in today's cars than before but frankly it is all gobbledygook to me... even have trouble after brain cancer remembering my kids names and engine nos like N54, M62 blah blah blah...........

    I would expect a V8 forced induction beast that can rev REALLY HIGH to destroy any straight 6 turbo that can rev high at similar power and torque numbers at same weight etc CD etc

    I have enough trouble converting NM and KW to lbs-ft and HP let alone most else discussed on these boards... but I learn $#@!ing quickly

    All the best y'all !
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    I honestly have re-read almost this entire thread 2-3 times, and I just don't see why anyone would get the impression ASR had much of anything to do with these. I thought this was a case that a vendor, VTT in this instance cleared the air up front about another vendor's part used on his since there doesn't seem any reason to hide it and have some idiot catch wind of an ASR plate and start a foolish rumor. I thought Tony deserved some good rep for the first post he made in this forum, between the first two posts, this thread was looking good!

    Now what? Terry makes a post that objectively is not a stab at VTT (just saying from my POV it was pretty innocent) and now $#@! hits the fan? Tony, I completely understand being pissed if someone tried to undermine your product, downplay it, especially if it was someone that you had a positive professional relationship with, but I honestly didn't view his post as being that. If it was, than that's pretty $#@!ty. I mean if Dzenno would have just posted a log and shown the differences in timing and pointed out to all of us consumers the differences in how the two cars achieved power, this probably woulda been a done deal. But now drama...and us consumers have to read through a bunch of bull$#@! to actually get good info from the forums...once again....and you guys wonder why you get so many emails? Maybe cause us consumers get tired of reading 200 pages of bull$#@! on forums to get a an answer that could be said in one sentence in an email....just sayin guys...I honestly have spent a lot of money on my ride and mostly from BMS and VTT, and was contacting PTF about an LSD, I mean you all make great products, I just don't get the cut throatness from you guys. IT SUCKS!

    @RBTurbo...seriously? WTF was that post? I don't know you or know the complete past between you guys, but that was just plain childish, I take you for a smart guy, so if you had something constructive to add to the conversation then do it with facts, logic, and reason.
    @klipseracer I like tits too, preferably larger than a "B" cup, but B's are still passable if the girl is 5' nothing and a size 0. Cause then it's just proportionate.
    This is really well stated, and I found the defense of B-cups on small frames very touching and brave. Few guys have the guts to come out and defend pint sized spinners.

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    This is really well stated, and I found the defense of B-cups on small frames very touching and brave. Few guys have the guts to come out and defend pint sized spinners.
    Best post in this thread.
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    This is really well stated, and I found the defense of B-cups on small frames very touching and brave. Few guys have the guts to come out and defend pint sized spinners.

    I kind of like pint sized sheilas with as low as A CUP spinners frames... then again, $#@! tiny titties .. god bless you mate... DD's for the win I say
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    I say DD's as well. Although I don't mind to start with a cute girl who has small cups. A good chassis for modification isn't a bad thing.
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    I say DD's as well. Although I don't mind to start with a cute girl who has small cups. A good chassis for modification isn't a bad thing.
    Yeah that's a pretty easy mod, about equivalent to a good tune...varies in price, but the best ones give you something really fun to play with
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    I say DD's as well. Although I don't mind to start with a cute girl who has small cups. A good chassis for modification isn't a bad thing.
    A great ass and a nice set of long legs can more than make up for an A-cup. Especially if she's adventurous and can ride well.

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    A great ass and a nice set of long legs can more than make up for an A-cup. Especially if she's adventurous and can ride well.
    Long legs and great ass plus an A-cup are fine. I can't add on long legs.
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    Yeah that's a pretty easy mod, about equivalent to a good tune...varies in price, but the best ones give you something really fun to play with
    I'd say it's like a good set of rims. A tune improves performance so that would be more like a gym membership.

    We can always try to break these analogies down, it's important.
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    I will stand up for tiny titties too. I have As in my possession and will not change a thing lol

    Lets just all have fun without the objective comments shall we?

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    Uh oh now a titty war has started.
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    No problem mate... for the record... my late father was an auto design engineer at GM (Holden), Isuzu, Opel, Vauxhall and GM for 35 years as was my uncle, all my friends' Dads, my brother etc etc... sadly I was an electronic engineer which appears to be more pertinent in today's cars than before but frankly it is all gobbledygook to me... even have trouble after brain cancer remembering my kids names and engine nos like N54, M62 blah blah blah...........

    I would expect a V8 forced induction beast that can rev REALLY HIGH to destroy any straight 6 turbo that can rev high at similar power and torque numbers at same weight etc CD etc

    I have enough trouble converting NM and KW to lbs-ft and HP let alone most else discussed on these boards... but I learn $#@!ing quickly

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    I kind of like pint sized sheilas with as low as A CUP spinners frames... then again, $#@! tiny titties .. god bless you mate... DD's for the win I say
    I wish I had a photo to illustrate this, but I once knew a girl who was blessed with long legs and a very athletic frame. God had also bestowed her with a massive rack, so voluminous that she had to wear a special chest brace when we went jogging. She would cross her wrists in front of her to keep the puppies from swinging wildly from side to side and disrupt her rhythm. I wish I had a photo to share, still remember this vividly more than 20 years later.
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    Uh oh now a titty war has started.

    sorry, my bad... what is a safe boost level range for this build as is ? (the car, not bolt on boobs that is)
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    sorry, my bad... what is a safe boost level range for this build as is ? (the car, not bolt on boobs that is)
    It's too late. My answer to any question posted in this thread now is going to be DD's.
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    Throws some D's on that $#@!!!
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    Throws some D's on that $#@!!!

    You should use the nws /nws tags :d
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    You should use the nws /nws tags :d
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    Sorry, no nudity, didn't think anything of it...lol didn't even know those tags existed!

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