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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by G0TB00ST? Click here to enlarge
    The exhaust sound pretty good to me, like a throater s54
    Impossible! M is over, this car sucks, it sounds like $#@! Click here to enlarge

    FYI this car is going to crush the previous m3 and set the bar for the competition.....IMO at least
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by bobS Click here to enlarge
    Impossible! M is over, this car sucks, it sounds like $#@! Click here to enlarge

    FYI this car is going to crush the previous m3 and set the bar for the competition.....IMO at least
    It has new competition now, with the new price range. Lets not forget the next C63 is getting a twin turbo V8.


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    Your right, it can only be good for us Click here to enlarge

    Rumor has it the Audi rs3 will be 400hp! In that little sedan.....wow
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by khyber Click here to enlarge
    I do consider the E60 M5 / E9X M3s the GT3s of the M generation while the new generation of M cars are the 911 Turbo while the older generations are the GT3
    Same here.

    The difference though is Porsche offers both. BMW made the decision for us. One company respects its enthusiasts, the other does not.
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by bigdnno98 Click here to enlarge
    Why are you comparing race cars to stock street cars? lets go stock street to stock street. The F82 will smash an E92 on the track. watch and see. BMW isn't going to go backward in engineering. This new M4 will be better in all ways. period. Sticky you sound like the whining porsche guys when the new car came out. Now they're saying it's the best thing since sliced bread. It'll happen here too. You may have to complain about 500less RPM. That comes with the FI territory. I rev my EVO out to 8500 and guess what, it's useful maybe once every couple of months when i'm racing someone that can't rev that high. for a street car, it won't matter. when you start talking CSL or GTS then maybe it matters, but that's because those are purpose built race cars. stock M4s are not. you want a race car buy a GTS.
    Wait and see what? Smash? Really? The M3 GTS will clown the F82 lap after lap. That car shows what an M car should really be. Lightweight, focused, all business.

    Of course the F82 will have more power and perform better than the E92 M3 as it is a next generation model. Oh wow what a revelation a more powerful and newer car will be faster. The GTS shows the superiority of the E92 platform and motor on the track though. Which one is closer to what BMW actually races?

    Less revs doesn't come with FI territory. What does the McLaren MP4-12C rev to?
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Group.america Click here to enlarge
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    Sticky - I understand the OP wasn't talking price but my point was why compare an expensive GT3 race car to what is a highly marketed "Daddy's" street car (M4)

    BTW anyone else feel peeved like me about
    the use of M... the new 235i will be M235i but it wont be an M.. cause there is an M2...
    We aren't comparing the actual GT3 car itself we are comparing the philosophy behind the car which is not based on any set pricepoint.
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by bobS Click here to enlarge
    Impossible! M is over, this car sucks, it sounds like $#@! Click here to enlarge

    FYI this car is going to crush the previous m3 and set the bar for the competition.....IMO at least
    Nobody is saying this car sucks. What is being said it sucks that traditional M values are dead.
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
    Less revs doesn't come with FI territory. What does the McLaren MP4-12C rev to?
    8500RPM. I'd love to see a turbo 8k RPM BMW....

    This car is REALLY good looking. 100-200lbs less than E9X will make me a believer.... I'm fine with the engine change

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
    Less revs doesn't come with FI territory. What does the McLaren MP4-12C rev to?
    The MP4-12C also has a flat plane crank, so revs come a lot easier.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by BlackJetE90OC Click here to enlarge
    The MP4-12C also has a flat plane crank, so revs come a lot easier.
    Exactly. It isn't forced induction by itself that determines the redline it's the engine design.
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    http://www.dtm.com/en/News/BMW-lines...MW-M4-DTM.html

    It seems like they will be racing the M4.

    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
    Nobody is saying this car sucks. What is being said it sucks that traditional M values are dead.
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by KB Click here to enlarge
    http://www.dtm.com/en/News/BMW-lines...MW-M4-DTM.html

    It seems like they will be racing the M4.
    That's German Nascar and not based on anything resembling a street car. They won't be racing anything resembling the M4 in more than body. And it's a naturally aspirated V8 btw...
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by KB Click here to enlarge
    http://www.dtm.com/en/News/BMW-lines...MW-M4-DTM.html

    It seems like they will be racing the M4.
    You need to read up on DTM rules.

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    I heard it comes with a hidden meth tank in the trunk and three oil coolers to make it limp free Click here to enlarge for tracking
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by marcvtec Click here to enlarge
    I heard it comes with a hidden meth tank in the trunk and three oil coolers to make it limp free Click here to enlarge for tracking
    HAH! Click here to enlarge

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by marcvtec Click here to enlarge
    I heard it comes with a hidden meth tank in the trunk and three oil coolers to make it limp free Click here to enlarge for tracking
    Good one!
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    I just can't wait until the m4 is released and we can get some solid facts on he new M. Then we can truly see if it lives up to the M badge.

    But i do agree and find it very annoying on how wins diluting the m brand by having m335i, m435i ect. They should scrap that $#@! and make sure they focus more on the actual m cars.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Nemesis07r Click here to enlarge
    I just can't wait until the m4 is released and we can get some solid facts on he new M. Then we can truly see if it lives up to the M badge.

    But i do agree and find it very annoying on how wins diluting the m brand by having m335i, m435i ect. They should scrap that $#@! and make sure they focus more on the actual m cars.
    I agree completely... I honestly wish BMW or M Gmbh would read this, and "get it". The problem is, it's not the enthusiasts who make up the large percentage of their sales, instead it's people who care only about a name brand or instead about looking fast/cool. It's sad - but it's the way of the world. I have a feeling the next M will be good, but engine-wise, nothing like we have seen in the past (talking strictly about de-throttling and response here).

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Nemesis07r Click here to enlarge
    I just can't wait until the m4 is released and we can get some solid facts on he new M. Then we can truly see if it lives up to the M badge.

    But i do agree and find it very annoying on how wins diluting the m brand by having m335i, m435i ect. They should scrap that $#@! and make sure they focus more on the actual m cars.

    "Bmw is diluting the m brand". Not wins diluting...damn auto-correct.

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