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    Would more meth help me out? CM14 nozzle?

    Hello all I have been thinking about either going to a dual stage meth system or running just one big nozzle.

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    Trunk mount meth with CM10 nozzle 5" from throttle body 100% meth

    Right now my car currently performs well and all logs look great with 60 add and 91 octane sets me at 16.5 PSI.

    I have been running 75 Add with E85 setting me at 19psi.

    My question is for the meth guys, If I add another nozzle or one bigger nozzle CM14 would it allow me to run more boost or is it overkill?

    Thanks guys

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    In my experience, a CM10 nozzle is more than enough especially on stock turbos. So I vote for overkill.

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    Can you post some logs?

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    Meth does more for timing than boost, what timing are you running at? What's your fueling look like in your logs? Need a bit more info man.
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by mjmarovi Click here to enlarge
    Meth does more for timing than boost, what timing are you running at? What's your fueling look like in your logs? Need a bit more info man.
    me?

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    Not around my tablet to post the logs, but my timing was great and flat everything looks great. Sent them to Terry as well and he said everything looks great. My question is basically I am tired of driving a hour to pick up E85, if a run a bigger nozzle CM14 would it "allow" me to up the boost some 1-2 psi, from the extra fuel and cooling it will be doing.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Linracing Click here to enlarge
    Not around my tablet to post the logs, but my timing was great and flat everything looks great. Sent them to Terry as well and he said everything looks great. My question is basically I am tired of driving a hour to pick up E85, if a run a bigger nozzle CM14 would it "allow" me to up the boost some 1-2 psi, from the extra fuel and cooling it will be doing.
    you should try map 7 with your setup for one pull and see how it looks.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by themyst Click here to enlarge
    you should try map 7 with your setup for one pull and see how it looks.
    What would be the difference with map 7 to map 3? Map 7 for some reason always felt slower to me, maybe I am trippen. lol

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Linracing Click here to enlarge
    What would be the difference with map 7 to map 3? Map 7 for some reason always felt slower to me, maybe I am trippen. lol
    map 7 on ISO is 18.5 psi peak. plenty for stock turbos.

    anything more you'll need to dial in map 6 manuallym

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    Post a log. But I run a CM14 w/ 100% ethanol.
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    Here is a log with Map 3 meth boost additive at 75, 100% meth 5" from throttle body CM10 and 91 mix with a little e85

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    From the JPG I can't see any of the tuning variables. But my gut feeling is you'll benefit from a CM14 nicely.
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Terry@BMS Click here to enlarge
    From the JPG I can't see any of the tuning variables. But my gut feeling is you'll benefit from a CM14 nicely.
    How can I upload the CSV's?

    Also since my boost is hitting 19psi wouldn't Map 7 at 18 psi be a tad less power for me?

    Thanks

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    Sure but with no methanol safety system. Another option is to raise the E85 mix and then on say E50 you could try map 7 as is.
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    @Terry@BMS, how many cc's of meth are you flowing with the CM14?
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by lulz_m3 Click here to enlarge
    @Terry@BMS, how many cc's of meth are you flowing with the CM14?

    in theory 14 gallons an hour so it should be say 1300 ml/min at least.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by themyst Click here to enlarge
    in theory 14 gallons an hour so it should be say 1300 ml/min at least.
    I need to step my game up, time to add a 3rd nozzle to this HFS-4.
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    Cm14 the atomization will be terrible...It will be like a leaky faucet....Better to go down in size with more nozzles than one single large nozzle..Thats my opinion.
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    Terry is ethanol better than methanol?

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