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    @Sticky I haven't seen e63 limp very often, but yeah I'll give it to you. I think the e63 should have been a bit more focused on performance. Anyway didn't mean to get this thread off topic... This is a good package by dinan which will no doubt be over priced, but almost worth it because of reliability and warranty.

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    Yeah, I agree with you G0TB00ST on missing the mark, I think a lot of people do - and think that it's a shame. However, it's good that Dinan seems to be doing it right, and to me reliability coupled with high power is a necessity. I don't care or want a car that makes 750 HP unless it can do it all day long without an issue - in other words, not just a 1/4 mile at a time. I am hoping they will address cooling/heatsoak (from what we have likely seen in the last published race) considering the amount of effort they already pushed into it, so hopefully it will bring out the "M" in the car more than BMW has.

    Maybe times will turn the tables, we will see.

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    @Sticky also I know they are heavy straight line rockets and its sad. If you buy a bmw for straight line speed no matter what model you bought the wrong car. That's why I bought my e46 m3 over the 335 because at the time the 335 hadn't done sh!t other than haul in a straight line, there are a few track worthy ones out there now though. Hell I've seen old e38 seven series tearing up tracks (obviously modded, but still it's a 7). Bmw has lost their way especially the M division... Ok I'm done I've said my peace lol

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by inlineS54B32 Click here to enlarge
    Yeah, I agree with you G0TB00ST on missing the mark, I think a lot of people do - and think that it's a shame. However, it's good that Dinan seems to be doing it right, and to me reliability coupled with high power is a necessity. I don't care or want a car that makes 750 HP unless it can do it all day long without an issue - in other words, not just a 1/4 mile at a time. I am hoping they will address cooling/heatsoak (from what we have likely seen in the last published race) considering the amount of effort they already pushed into it, so hopefully it will bring out the "M" in the car more than BMW has.

    Maybe times will turn the tables, we will see.
    Was this an attempted F&F reference? And yeah I believe they will address the heat soak, or at least try. Also you are spot on about reliability! If anyone can get hp gains and keep it reliable it's dinan
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by G0TB00ST? Click here to enlarge
    @Sticky also I know they are heavy straight line rockets and its sad. If you buy a bmw for straight line speed no matter what model you bought the wrong car. That's why I bought my e46 m3 over the 335 because at the time the 335 hadn't done sh!t other than haul in a straight line, there are a few track worthy ones out there now though. Hell I've seen old e38 seven series tearing up tracks (obviously modded, but still it's a 7). Bmw has lost their way especially the M division... Ok I'm done I've said my peace lol
    I disagree I bought a BMW because it does everything well. It's all around. It will never be the best in any single category but M's strength was always well rounded drivers cars. Well, it used to be.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
    I disagree I bought a BMW because it does everything well. It's all around. It will never be the best in any single category but M's strength was always well rounded drivers cars. Well, it used to be.

    And yes, the M division has lost its way I never hesitate to mention that Click here to enlarge
    I never said they aren't fast in a straight line I'm just saying that's not all they do.
    Also does BB have an app? I was going to pm you about it but I'm lazy and it's easier to ask here (I'm on my phone)
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by G0TB00ST? Click here to enlarge
    I never said they aren't fast in a straight line I'm just saying that's not all they do.
    Agreed. They used to be good at everything.

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    Built + more boost + upgraded turbos should definitely be more than 750 crank, seeing as other tuners are supposedly seeing close to that with exhaust and a tune. I'm sure its a conservative estimate. Being from Dinan, it will also cost about 20k. Can't wait to see what happens though. Also really excited for what AMS comes up with. I really want to see this engine make big numbers.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by leveraged sellout Click here to enlarge
    Built + more boost + upgraded turbos should definitely be more than 750 crank, seeing as other tuners are supposedly seeing close to that with exhaust and a tune. I'm sure its a conservative estimate. Being from Dinan, it will also cost about 20k. Can't wait to see what happens though. Also really excited for what AMS comes up with. I really want to see this engine make big numbers.
    It won't be cheap but being from Dinan it will also be done right and actually work as intended.

    Built motor plus upgraded turbos from Dinan will be a hell of a lot more than $20k especially if it's from Dinan and they are first.

    Did you see their stroker kit prices?

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
    It won't be cheap but being from Dinan it will also be done right and actually work as intended.

    Built motor plus upgraded turbos from Dinan will be a hell of a lot more than $20k especially if it's from Dinan and they are first.

    Did you see their stroker kit prices?

    Yeah you're right I forgot to take that into account...you'll be able to buy an M3 for what this costs. It will be done right, but I can't help but think it won't end up being a great deal. I am excited to see it though.

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    It will come out expensive then they will drop it as time goes on and more options come on the market.

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    I think Dinan is making the right choice for the customer base they are targeting. I am sure that most shops could make 750 HP with limited changes.

    I think Dinan is focusing on the customer who wants good HP and no problems. They want a car that will make 750 HP on 95 degree summer days, will idle through NYC traffic for 2 hours, run on pump gas, has a broad power band and lot's of torque.

    How to do that on a platform that you can warranty? Add displacement, add bigger turbos and over engineer the rotating pieces.

    From what I see, Dinan never talks about making the most power. They do talk about consistency, durability and driveability.

    I would prefer a car that makes good torque down low and has a nice flat power band. And will make that power on the hottest summer days. I have been there with cars that made high HP with peaky, narrow powerbands. They are fun; but, they are annoying to drive in real life everyday. I guess I am getting old.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Brian425 Click here to enlarge
    From what I see, Dinan never talks about making the most power. They do talk about consistency, durability and driveability.
    Exactly. Dinan doesn't go for peak figures for bragging rights. They go for a solid and reliable package. They aren't trying to squeeze every last horse.

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