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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by turbodan Click here to enlarge
    Ok, that math equasion is an estimate. A lot of things come into play for horsepower and torque curves. The sooner you realize that the better off you'll be.
    This is turning into a pissing match over nothing. Sorry for the thread jack.
    umm.. no, it's not an 'estimate' it's 100% solid...

    if your torque is X at Y RPM, your power is Z. You cannot change physics.

    yes, torque curves have a lot of different things effecting them.. but basically if your turbo can breathe freely/provide solid boost at a given RPM, you'll have more torque, which means you have more power. Well designed/flowing head/valves etc. just makes that EASIER.

    The sooner you realize that, the better you'll be.. ugh.
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by alex@ABRhouston Click here to enlarge
    oh, hey look- we offer Ferrea valve springs and retainers Click here to enlarge
    LOL well that one was out of the blue haha

    specs on the springs vs OEM?
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Flinchy Click here to enlarge
    umm.. no, it's not an 'estimate' it's 100% solid...

    if your torque is X at Y RPM, your power is Z. You cannot change physics.

    yes, torque curves have a lot of different things effecting them.. but basically if your turbo can breathe freely/provide solid boost at a given RPM, you'll have more torque, which means you have more power. Well designed/flowing head/valves etc. just makes that EASIER.

    The sooner you realize that, the better you'll be.. ugh.
    ok, spoken like a man with more money than sence.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by turbodan Click here to enlarge
    not to be rude but rpm doesn't mean a damn thing for power production. 6500 was a random number used as an example.
    Ive had a turbo v8 car so stock turbos are not in the world i live in.
    If the only answer you can think of to raise power levels is engine speed then you need to learn quite a bit more about how turbo engines especially ones looking to make more power work. Cheers
    Hey Dan, not to be rude, but I stopped reading after this post. If you aren't familiar with the specifics of this platform, then maybe you should read up a little bit more before making statements as if they are law.

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    Can ya'll not booger up my fersale thread? If not, I'm gonna be forced to make a new one.
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by turbodan Click here to enlarge
    ok, spoken like a man with more money than sence.
    I can tell you're gonna last a long time here........

    if you can't have a discussion without ignoring all fact, logic and reason, then resorting to baseless insults... Don't have one at all.


    sorry Alex.

    do you have any prelim pricing on the ferrea springs+retainer kit?
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by alex@ABRhouston Click here to enlarge
    Can ya'll not booger up my fersale thread? If not, I'm gonna be forced to make a new one.
    Just ask @Sticky to clean it up. He will do it for you. I agree, lets not mess up this awesome thread with a bunch of BS bench racing.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by VargasTurboTech Click here to enlarge
    Just ask @Sticky to clean it up. He will do it for you. I agree, lets not mess up this awesome thread with a bunch of BS bench racing.
    Don't give me more work... Click here to enlarge

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Flinchy Click here to enlarge

    do you have any prelim pricing on the ferrea springs+retainer kit?


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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by turbodan Click here to enlarge
    ok, spoken like a man with more money than sence.
    You mean spoken like a man who knows what they're talking about. He's correct. More airflow = more torque. More torque at higher rpm = more power. Simple physics

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by turbodan Click here to enlarge
    not to be rude but rpm doesn't mean a damn thing for power production. 6500 was a random number used as an example.
    Ive had a turbo v8 car so stock turbos are not in the world i live in.
    If the only answer you can think of to raise power levels is engine speed then you need to learn quite a bit more about how turbo engines especially ones looking to make more power work. Cheers
    Lol I always miss such exciting conversation when I'm studying.

    Since RPM doesn't matter anymore, please make me 600whp at 2000RPM using my 3.0L inline 6 built any way you want. School me turbo sage.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by V8Bait Click here to enlarge
    Lol I always miss such exciting conversation when I'm studying.

    Since RPM doesn't matter anymore, please make me 600whp at 2000RPM using my 3.0L inline 6 built any way you want. School me turbo sage.
    While I do not agree with all Turbodan is saying, I see part of his argument. But if are we just saying a I6 built anyway we want. I'm currently driving an I6 that makes 650 WHP and almost 1300 FT/lbs of Tq at 1800-2000 RPM, but the party is also over at 2100-2200..Click here to enlarge You have to love a Cummins...Click here to enlarge

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by VargasTurboTech Click here to enlarge
    While I do not agree with all Turbodan is saying, I see part of his argument. But if are we just saying a I6 built anyway we want. I'm currently driving an I6 that makes 650 WHP and almost 1300 FT/lbs of Tq at 1800-2000 RPM, but the party is also over at 2100-2200..Click here to enlarge You have to love a Cummins...Click here to enlarge
    More details on this would be appreciated....

    I'm really wanting a diesel to play with.
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
    More details on this would be appreciated....

    I'm really wanting a diesel to play with.
    lol it's a just a diesel....not hard to make over a 1,000 ft/lb 650whp is pretty good though. Tune, exhaust, intake, HPFP upgrade and bigger turbo if you want to start getting crazy, studded motor is a must on certain models like 6.0 Ford, just depends. I am big fan of Duramax myself, just a Chevy boy.

    Tony, you got a 5.9 or a newer cummins?
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by mjmarovi Click here to enlarge
    lol it's a just a diesel....not hard to make over a 1,000 ft/lb 650whp is pretty good though. Tune, exhaust, intake, HPFP upgrade and bigger turbo if you want to start getting crazy, studded motor is a must on certain models like 6.0 Ford, just depends. I am big fan of Duramax myself, just a Chevy boy.

    Tony, you got a 5.9 or a newer cummins?
    Lol what? Of course you can make a ton of torque but it would be nice to see the details on his vehicle.
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
    Lol what? Of course you can make a ton of torque but it would be nice to see the details on his vehicle.
    I'd be interested too, but I'm willing to bet it's just a tune, exhaust, intake, and knowing Tony a turbo upgrade, and that's probably it. Just depends on which Cummins it is, most likely a 6.7 though
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    I love the cummins(Brother had a 93 way back) simply because it could hang with the big boys and it was an I6. I simply love that layout.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by mjmarovi Click here to enlarge
    lol it's a just a diesel....not hard to make over a 1,000 ft/lb 650whp is pretty good though. Tune, exhaust, intake, HPFP upgrade and bigger turbo if you want to start getting crazy, studded motor is a must on certain models like 6.0 Ford, just depends. I am big fan of Duramax myself, just a Chevy boy.

    Tony, you got a 5.9 or a newer cummins?
    5.9 24 valve with a P-pump conversion. Backdated the tranny to the mechanical style. This was my dads thing, I just inherited it when he past. He had plans go compound twins and go nuts with it. Which is why he went P-pump. Duramax's are ok. 6.0's are junk junk junk. They single handedly have kept many a diesel shop in business. Being in the the diesel performance and service industry I would never own anything but a cummins hands down. The problems we see are about 80% ford, 15% Chevy, 5% dodge.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by VargasTurboTech Click here to enlarge
    5.9 24 valve with a P-pump conversion. Backdated the tranny to the mechanical style. This was my dads thing, I just inherited it when he past. He had plans go compound twins and go nuts with it. Which is why he went P-pump. Duramax's are ok. 6.0's are junk junk junk. They single handedly have kept many a diesel shop in business. Being in the the diesel performance and service industry I would never own anything but a cummins hands down. The problems we see are about 80% ford, 15% Chevy, 5% dodge.
    Yeah 5.9 is an awesome motor, I love the Cummins, no doubt most of the big power builds, especially the ones that are somewhat reliable are Cummins, but can't deny the performance of the GM trucks with just tune and exhaust, of course the actual weight and transmission has a lot to do with that, not just power. Yeah 6.0 had problems alright, a friend had one, didn't stud the motor, but no problems there, it was the turbo. he went through 3 turbos in 2 months....I remember I was with him when one of them went, literally no tune, running all stock, normal driving from a stop light in a residential neighborhood....I would never buy a Powerstroke.....I honestly don't understand how Ford has kept trucks sales so high with all of the problems they've had, I mean everyone has problems but they have a pretty bad track record with major drivetrain failures....including their oh almighty ecoboost of current.
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by VargasTurboTech Click here to enlarge
    While I do not agree with all Turbodan is saying, I see part of his argument. But if are we just saying a I6 built anyway we want. I'm currently driving an I6 that makes 650 WHP and almost 1300 FT/lbs of Tq at 1800-2000 RPM, but the party is also over at 2100-2200..Click here to enlarge You have to love a Cummins...Click here to enlarge
    That's why I specified my (gasoline) 3.0L lol. It's all about airflow, I know that's what he's probably talking about... but on an engine with limited displacement eventually the only way to increase your airflow and your useable powerband (read- not pull stumps, as sticky would say) is by adding rpm. Compounding turbo systems and gasoline don't usually play so nice... that's the only way I could see it possible.

    Love those 5.9L cummins. 100psi? You must be new here.
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    It would be great to see what some does with a full built motor.

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    When you cut th crank for your rods do you supply new bearings for the main journals as well as the rods?

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    sounds excellent Alex. i sent you an email earlier this week but still haven't heard from you but this thread answered almost all my questions. will call you on Monday.look forward to talking with you.

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