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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Mike@VAC Click here to enlarge
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    Can't wait to see numbers etc.

    btw there is a 1khp turbo S65 E92 M3 in Germany. No shop, no 'kit' no internet presence.
    wow... we need info on that !
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Mike@VAC Click here to enlarge
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    Can't wait to see numbers etc.

    btw there is a 1khp turbo S65 E92 M3 in Germany. No shop, no 'kit' no internet presence.
    Sounds like a very secretive build. Do you have any details?

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Mike@VAC Click here to enlarge
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    Can't wait to see numbers etc.

    btw there is a 1khp turbo S65 E92 M3 in Germany. No shop, no 'kit' no internet presence.
    There's some serious stuff out there that doesn't get on the forums. Is that one a street car though?
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    Guessing this car is donezo? They said it would be tuned on a stock DME, probably difficult to do and had to resort to some piggy or flash, and are having complications with the tuning. Hardware looked good, standard from Gintani so I wouldn't be worried about that.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by bmwtek Click here to enlarge
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    Guessing this car is donezo? They said it would be tuned on a stock DME, probably difficult to do and had to resort to some piggy or flash, and are having complications with the tuning. Hardware looked good, standard from Gintani so I wouldn't be worried about that.
    It's coming along quite nicely...
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    It's coming along quite nicely...
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by bmwtek Click here to enlarge
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    x2. I wan't some pictures. Maybe even a startup would be nice lol.
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by bmwtek Click here to enlarge
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    They wouldn't let me take any pictures last time I was there. They know it's a Catch-22 where if they post pre-production pieces idiots will go "oh that looks like crap" and there is no winning.
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    I don't see why with a standalone that big hp builds wouldn't be possible. Nothing magic about the s65. If anything the n54 is harder to tune.

    I found a UK website once that said they had their standalone working and sold it as a solution. Was geared towards swapping the s65 into other bmws. Too bad proefi hasn't come up with something yet.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sered Click here to enlarge
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    Too bad proefi hasn't come up with something yet.
    ProEFI (just like AEM Infinity, Motec, Syvecs, Pectel, etc) could easily be adapted to the S65 since it's not DI. All it would require is money to finance the EMS, the necessary sensors & a custom harness.
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    It's not as easy as you might think. It can run the motor but there are other electronics in the car as well. It likely would have to operate in conjunction with the DME and not as a standalone.
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
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    It's not as easy as you might think. It can run the motor but there are other electronics in the car as well. It likely would have to operate in conjunction with the DME and not as a standalone.
    That's how every modern standalone in a road car is beings setup: the EMS controls strict engine functions (and the traction control if it's been setup) while maintaing the OEM DME to keep the factory electronics happy --- Speedo/Gauges/NAV/Entertainment, etc. Just look at how major vendors are setting up their cars, whether it's UGR and their Lambos, T1Race/Switzer with their GTRs, Undercover/Saad with the E46 M3/996/997 Turbos.

    I mean, UGR just switched over the to the Motec M1 for their Aventador builds, and do you think any of their customers would be okay with losing every factory electronic option in their $100k-$400k car so they could 1200+ WHP highway monsters?!
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by benzy89 Click here to enlarge
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    That's how every modern standalone in a road car is beings setup: the EMS controls strict engine functions (and the traction control if it's been setup) while maintaing the OEM DME to keep the factory electronics happy --- Speedo/Gauges/NAV/Entertainment, etc. Just look at how major vendors are setting up their cars, whether it's UGR and their Lambos, T1Race/Switzer with their GTRs, Undercover/Saad with the E46 M3/996/997 Turbos.

    I mean, UGR just switched over the to the Motec M1 for their Aventador builds, and do you think any of their customers would be okay with losing every factory electronic option in their $100k-$400k car so they could 1200+ WHP highway monsters?!
    You didn't specify in what way it would be adapted. But UGR is also doing some stock DME tuning now as well.

    I would want to preserve the factory electronics for a street car.
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
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    You didn't specify in what way it would be adapted. But UGR is also doing some stock DME tuning now as well.

    I would want to preserve the factory electronics for a street car.
    100% agree that regardless of the level you're taking your street build, to lose all the comfort features would be a waste. As for UGR, they've always offered stock DME tuning combined with an AEM Piggyback (same setup HPF used on the turbo E46s), but if you're going to spend $70k+ on your build, there's no reason to not go with the Motec and maximize the potential of the car with the additional features/protection you'll get.
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by benzy89 Click here to enlarge
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    they've always offered stock DME tuning combined with an AEM Piggyback
    You misunderstand. I'm saying straight stock DME.
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    That was posted a month ago. No updates yet?
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    It's coming is all that can be said for now.
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    Turbo would destroy the factory power delivery of this car which is glorious, supercharger or bust for me.
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Irishace Click here to enlarge
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    Turbo would destroy the factory power delivery of this car which is glorious, supercharger or bust for me.
    Incorrect.

    The power delivery won't be destroyed. It will not be linear but the response will be better than that of an SC.

    The SC builds boost progressively whereas these will give a big torque hit. It just depends what you want.

    If you want linear boost buildup, SC. If you want gobs of torque down low with more power potential, turbos.
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    Incorrect.

    The power delivery won't be destroyed. It will not be linear but the response will be better than that of an SC.

    The SC builds boost progressively whereas these will give a big torque hit. It just depends what you want.

    If you want linear boost buildup, SC. If you want gobs of torque down low with more power potential, turbos.
    Gobs of torque down low is not the factory power delivery of this car.
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Irishace Click here to enlarge
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    Gobs of torque down low is not the factory power delivery of this car.
    True but it will have better throttle response. There is a sacrifice one way or another.

    The SC saps low end and throttle response so it isn't factory power delivery either.
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    That was posted a month ago. No updates yet?
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