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    Stage 2 Batch 2 details and pre-orders

    Whats up guys. So we completely sold out of Stage 2 batch one quite a while ago and have finished shipping here recently. During this time we have learned a lot from not only the betas but also from testing of prototypes etc. We took all this information and put it into the design of batch 2. What we have coming we are 100% sure will please everyone.

    New Turbine: First off we had a lot of people saying our turbine wheel was too small. We went with the turbine we did because we tested bigger turbines and the gains seemed minimal but in the end with these housings the bottom line is you can never have enough flow out of them. For batch 2 we are using a TD04L custom design turbine wheel. This is the same size turbine used in RB turbos except he uses the original 12 blade wheels designed in the 90's. In more modern designs the most efficient turbos are using 9 blade wheels (GTX, EFR, Etc). So we contacted our manufacture and had them custom make us a TD04L in a 9 blade design which has a much more aggressive profile and will provide superior exhaust flow over a 12 blade turbine wheel.

    Billet GTX compressor wheels: We are also now offering billet GTX compressor wheels in our stage 2 turbos (stage 1 as well). These are the impressive 11 blade compressor wheels you see in the Garrett GTX lineup which when swapped out for the stock cast wheel have seen to add 20% more airflow over the entire range when compared to a typical cast 6X6 wheel design with no changes to anything else. What this means is, the turbos will move more air at the same shaft speed as with a cast wheel. This allows the turbos to work less hard and provide the same airflow, a win win for the N54 as we already work the snot out of these turbos, speaking of working the turbos less hard, these turbines and compressor wheels are both lighter then the 12 blade and the cast compressor wheel meaning less exhaust energy is needed to spool the turbos, again reducing strain.

    Pricing: More good news, even though the new turbine is costing us more we decided to keep the base price of the turbos the same, $2499. The thrust upgrade is of course still available and highly recommended, and the GTX compressor option is $400. Keep in mind, if you do not want the GTX wheels batch 2's will still be a kick ass turbo and provide plenty of flow for 500WHP+ with the right tune, fueling, and boost. The GTX option will just get you there without spinning them as hard to do so, and should get you even higher when pushed until back pressure ends the fun.

    Pre-orders: This time around we are making close to 50 sets of turbos and are already taking orders, we have about 15 sets already spoken for. In order to get on the list we need a 50% deposit to hold your place. Please email directly tony@vargasturbo.com to place a pre-order.

    Lead time:
    We are already well under way with production and expect to be shipping in 60-90 days. Parts have started showing up and we are moving along nicely.

    Bimmer Fest East: We will be sharing a booth with PTF at Bimmer Fest East this year and will have all batch 2 wheels on display as well as out N55 wheels and some other stuff. There will also be a promotion in place that any pre-orders made at Bimmer Fest will get 10% off the price of the turbos. Were hoping to see all you guys out there!

    Note: Current Stage 2 owners. If you want to upgrade to batch 2 please drop us an email and we can work with you on a buy back program and a discount on the upgrade.

    Here are a few pics of what to expect..Click here to enlarge

    First 2: Couple of GTX CHRA's
    Next 2: completed GTX prototypes
    Next 1: 9 blade vs 12 blade
    Bottom 3: we stay stacking. Cart of housings, and double layer of housings going out to be machined
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    Freaking awesome work Tony.

    I'm approaching 5K miles on my original beta stage 2 turbos and not the first hint of smoking, oil consumption or WG rattle. I'm glad that I chose the hybrid turbo option that I did...
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    Definitely interested in the results, they look promising. Do you offer options for tapping the stock manifold merge for EGT sensors?
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by lulz_m3 Click here to enlarge
    Definitely interested in the results, they look promising. Do you offer options for tapping the stock manifold merge for EGT sensors?
    Tapping a manifold for an EGT is no problem, if someone wants to do it, they can let us know what size prob they are using and we can tap it for a small charge. We also offer boost and EGT gauges in one. We personally think every car pushing the limits like these do should run a analog boost gauge and an EGT.
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    this motor is so forgiving that people forget about those "essentials". Now as more and more people start flirting on the edge of power/octane available that is a great idea..
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    $3199 for the GTX wheels and upgrade thrust parts? I will be emailing you here in the next day or two Mr. Vargas.

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    These are very good improvements Tony. I'm very impressed with this. That compressor wheel is pure sex! And that turbine wheel was need i feel.

    Great work!
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    These look great. I'll be at bimmerfest to take advantage of that 10%.
    In the mean time any chance we are going to see the results of these new turbos?

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    Very nice indeed! The compressor and the turbine both look excellent.

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    That's what I get for selling my 135i.. ><

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    Tony would these be more able to hold 18psi to redline without overspeeding the turbos than the standard stage 2's? Looks like a great upgrade!

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    Those are looking great!
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    This is the one, until batch 3 comes out?

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    Love the progression Tony - and I don't even have my N54 yet.

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    Digging the improvements and the willingness to work with guys that already have the 1st batch. In for batch 2 results.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by blisstik Click here to enlarge
    This is the one, until batch 3 comes out?
    This is about as far as the stock housings can go. In my mind this will be the ultimate stage 2 style upgrade.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by VargasTurboTech Click here to enlarge
    This is about as far as the stock housings can go. In my mind this will be the ultimate stage 2 style upgrade.
    and has a superior wheel and thrust part options compared to an RB right?

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Torgus Click here to enlarge
    and has a superior wheel and thrust part options compared to an RB right?
    In our opinion yes. The upgraded thrusts can handle much more load this is fact, the 9 blade turbine sized the same as the RB 12 blade and billet wheels are also both superior in our opinion. There is a reason most all modern turbos use a 9 blade turbine and billet wheel. Progress

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    Tony, do you think there would be any advantages to porting the stock exhaust manifold? It looks like it would be incredibly difficult, but just curious.
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by lulz_m3 Click here to enlarge
    Tony, do you think there would be any advantages to porting the stock exhaust manifold? It looks like it would be incredibly difficult, but just curious.
    I don't think there is much to be had, maybe a little but nothing worth all that work. The problem is the turbine housing AR its like a .10-20 or something ridiculous to get those things spooled up so quick. Its not marked so its impossible to tell exactly what AR is is. But its SMALL, the new N20 has such a nice Twin Scroll housing. Too bad you cant split up 3 cylinders into equal pulses...Click here to enlarge

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    I can't wait to get mine! I'll be at Bimmerfest east and will definitely stop by to say hello. To bad my turbos won't be installed before then.... Great work tony!
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    Nice!

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    Just bought a set.
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    damn they look good

    can't complain about improvements.
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