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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Itsbrokeagain Click here to enlarge
    Oops accidentally posi-repped the OPs video. My bad lol
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Brey335i Click here to enlarge
    But I have plenty of upset M3 owners to vouch for how fast a properly tuned 335 is.
    +1 lol. All the local M3 guys around the DC/MD/VA area do not want to touch my car or zeels lol. Hell, many of them are afraid of most of the other local 335i's too.
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    OP obviously does not know what he's talking about or is trolling the hell out of all of you Click here to enlarge
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    This is a funny thread. This guy is just bored and trying to stir some $hit up.
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    Hey guys I raced a stock m3 e92 and I was fbo e90 335i. heres the video
    335- 94oct, dp, dci, fmic, cp/bov. map 5 jb4 g4board hitting about 14-15 psi
    couple weeks later on the same settings raced another m3 it was a e90 with a tune and some boltons and pretty much the same car lengths I pulled.

    my buddies m3 is getting his supercharger installed anyday now lol game over.

    since this race I switched to g5 board + meth

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    hope my last post helps you sleep at night

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    Wow, guy gets negged heavily for posting a vid N54 owners don't like? Seriously? What's wrong with you guys? Oh no M3 won let's neg him?

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Linracing Click here to enlarge
    Are you insane?
    I had both FBO DCT m3 and now FBO AUTO 335. My 335 walks my old M3 BAD!

    FBO M3's put down 400whp-320TQ MAX
    FBO 335's put down 440-450whp-480TQ

    335i is also 60-80lbs lighter
    I love how the DCT and M3 gearing is just left out. The M3 makes more efficient use of its power.

    I walked 335's bad, how was that possible? When I had bolt ons I freaking destroyed 335's. They have gotten stronger now but N54 guys like to benchmark against the M3 almost as if they have an inferiority complex. It's the same old argument.

    Just give the M3 some respect it does more with less. It's underrated and stronger than most of you realize.
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    It has nothing to do with a n54 not winning, it's when someone goes on the n54 section and posts something that isn't true and clearly tried to start trouble....the rep system works, why are you feeding a troll? Bc he has a m3? Seems like your logic is more flawed @Sticky
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Linracing Click here to enlarge
    I will match 5 grand to race any FBO M3 even with a stroker motor would not even come close to a FBO 335i on stock turbos.


    There was a FBO 335i stock turbos beating a Supercharged m3 525kit . Those only put down 440whp.
    What? A stroker motor won't come close to a FBO 335i? Why not? You just wrote 440 whp for a FBO 335 yet a stroker M3 without cams put out in the 440's plus it has the DCT so it will win.

    You're sipping kool-aid pretty hard.

    If a supercharged M3 loses it's a crap setup. 440 whp? LOL
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    335/N54 fanboys get panties in a twist over a bolt on DCT E92 M3 pulling a JB4 tuned bolt on 335i

    Oh yes, here we go the millionth time, the ever popular 335 versus M3 discussion. A user posted the video below of a bolt on DCT E92 M3 pulling a JB4 tuned 335i in the forums and the N54 fanboys went for the pitchforks and torches. For whatever reason 335 owners in particular seem to really want to attack the E92 M3 perhaps in justification of their own purchase. There is the typical "oh I didn't get an M3 because a tuned 335 is faster" nonsense that N54 fanboys tend to comfort themselves with in the never ending M3 versus 335 debate.

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    Even though the 335 in this video may have more power and torque in tuned form which the fanboys love to point out the other side of the coin is that the M3's redline and transmission are a huge advantage. Gearing is an area the M3 simply has an advantage over the 335 in and the transmission makes a big difference as one can see the shift speed in lower gears is really what gives the M3 the gains it sees in the race early on.

    Up top, the tuned 335's horsepower advantage comes into play as the cars spend more time in gear negating the gear change advantage provided by the DCT allowing the 335 to inch up and close the gap.

    This video is a good real world example as without race gas or meth a 335 will struggle against a tuned M3 especially one with DCT. Of course 335 owners will point out they can upgrade their turbos. Then M3 owners will say they can supercharge. Then the debate escalates and escalate and there are dozens of pages to read of M3 and 335 owners essentially throwing feces at each other. BMW fans, just enjoy 335 versus M3 round 400,000 in the video below.

    M3 is the camera car.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by bobS Click here to enlarge
    It has nothing to do with a n54 not winning, it's when someone goes on the n54 section and posts something that isn't true and clearly tried to start trouble....the rep system works, why are you feeding a troll? Bc he has a m3? Seems like your logic is more flawed @Sticky
    He did post this in the wrong section and was baiting people so he got what he deserved to a degree. But, I don't think punishing someone for fostering debate is in the spirit of this forum. He should be allowed to defend his position.

    Now, I don't think he did the best job of it but I still think he should be able to participate. You use your rep how you want and I will use mine how I want. It does work.

    I think this guy definitely needs to change his approach but do we really need to beat him up over what is obviously N54 owners taking offense over what happened in the video.
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by 135idct Click here to enlarge
    my car is 135i jb4 map2 without fmic raced many m3s all races from 50mph rpm at 5 full boost 14.5 psi
    pulled 2 to 2.5 car on fbo m3, the stock m3 i pulled 4 to 5 cars length.


    m3 is nothing without SC
    M3 is nothing without SC? Nothing but a better drivers car versus something that is one dimensional. It's so exciting seeing the N54 measured in side by side bulls.

    400 whp is nothing? 100 wheel horsepower per liter? And you can stroke it? It's a pretty potent V8 even NA. Put the kool-aid down. I spanked plenty of 335's and didn't need a blower to do so.
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by RTA Click here to enlarge
    335 FBO>> M3 period... this discussion was already closed in 2009....
    When I ran at the strip in 2009 I was quicker in my mildly modded M3 than all but 4 N54's. All but 4.
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by bobS Click here to enlarge
    This is obviously a joke, i've walked many stock m3's.....and anyone that has been in the bmw scene over the past 5 years knows the limits / speeds of the cars with mods. A fbo m3 is a quick car, but not quicker than a fbo 335 that is tuned properly. This thread is a waste of time, thanks!
    Come on man the 335 needs meth or race gas. 91 versus 91 what happens?

    How many 118+ trap speed full bolt on 335's are there really that you run into on the street everyday?
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    I don't take much offense. I know my car trapped 123-124 with bolt ons and e60...no meth or racegas.
    11.76 @ 124 (123.9) full weight e92 335i, street tires, no meth.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by lulz_m3 Click here to enlarge
    Whats your location? Plenty of 335 owners on this board that would love to educate you on the ass whooping a proper 335 would give you. ..and please say NE Florida, haven't had anyone to race in ages.
    You're writing checks the N54 can't cash. I'd love to show you the ass whooping I'd give 100% of N54 owners on this website. Pick any one you want me to run I expect my trans to be done by the end of the month.
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by inlineS54B32 Click here to enlarge
    I will be the first to admit that a true/proper FBO 335i will run down a stock M3 with DCT; however, it's not as bad as anyone here is making it out.
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
    He did post this in the wrong section and was baiting people so he got what he deserved to a degree. But, I don't think punishing someone for fostering debate is in the spirit of this forum. He should be allowed to defend his position.

    Now, I don't think he did the best job of it but I still think he should be able to participate. You use your rep how you want and I will use mine how I want. It does work.

    I think this guy definitely needs to change his approach but do we really need to beat him up over what is obviously N54 owners taking offense over what happened in the video.
    The public has spoken, that's how this forum is setup, you made it that way, now you want to change it? Why? Then you make it front page? Why?

    You need to look in the mirror....so one vid makes it true? There are 10 vids
    to his one that show a properly tuned fbo 335 will take a non supercharged m.

    Again, it has nothing to do with "fanboys" ....He was negged for everything you just said, his approach, where he posted it, etc. Why are you surprised?
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Terry@BMS Click here to enlarge
    Here is a video of me racing a supercharged E90 M3 when I had stock turbos... Click here to enlarge

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o1O9q1g-9x8
    Terry remember I asked you to race when I was supercharged on the stock motor? You said no point.
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by inlineS54B32 Click here to enlarge
    Whoa... A stock M3's 0-160 km/h time is over 1.5 seconds (~8-10 car lengths?) quicker than a 1M. The M3 has almost 100 horsepower on the 1M. An M3 with or without DCT is a sub 10s car to 160km/h (100 MPH) - the 1M is a 10.5s-10.8s car. That's a huge difference - and a true testament to how quick a car is. Straight line = 0-100 MPH, and they aren't close... Sorry, but they aren't.

    I am the first to admit (see above) that a proper FBO 335i is faster than a stock M3, but this isn't right - the 1M is not as fast as an M3 stock for stock - unless I am misunderstanding something.
    And these guys think the OP is the delusional one. Great post.
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by bobS Click here to enlarge
    The public has spoken, that's how this forum is setup, you made it that way, now you want to change it? Why? Then you make it front page? Why?

    You need to look in the mirror....so one vid makes it true? There are 10 vids
    to his one that show a properly tuned fbo 335 will take a non supercharged m.

    Again, it has nothing to do with "fanboys" ....He was negged for everything you just said, his approach, where he posted it, etc. Why are you surprised?
    This isn't a democracy bob hence rep power. I don't disagree the public has spoken but so have I.

    I made it front page because as always it's a hot topic and believe it or not what people want to view/read. The N54 guys get plenty of great coverage showing them beating cars it's ok when one loses. Even to an M3. It's fine, really.

    I'm not as surprised as disappointed guys want to neg him into oblivion rather than engage him. We're here to talk. I'm sure we can all be reasonable and respect other viewpoints.

    Btw, I feel the OP has made a lot of mistakes especially technical ones for the record.
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by zeel Click here to enlarge
    I don't take much offense. I know my car trapped 123-124 with bolt ons and e60...no meth or racegas.
    And yes that is faster than any bolt on M3 can match.
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by GeorgiaTech335Coupe Click here to enlarge
    I don't think a M3 has 100hp more, maybe if you look at a brochure. Weren't stock 1M's dynoing around 320-330whp? And stock M3s dynoing 350whp? And when is the M3 actually making more power? After 6000rpm? Don't forget the big weight advantage (isn't it around 400lbs). I could be wrong, but that math adds up that what he is saying is plausible.
    The M3 is faster than the 1M all tests have already shown this. It's more powerful, has the faster trans, and the weight difference is only about 150 pounds as the 1M is at 3400 pounds at least that's what MotorTrend tested it at.
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