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    ProTUNING Freaks || PTF - Sponsored Track Car

    We recently received a call from an east coast shop owner who does some of the cleanest work I have ever seen. He runs a full race shop and has a 2008 135i with only 5000 miles on it. All 5000 miles are track miles as the car has never been registered as a car to run on the street. He is running RB turbos and full supporting bolt ons and tracks the car on 93 octane. We have decided to join him and support his tuning needs for the upcoming track seasons. After hitting the dyno today we have dialed the car in a bit more and focused on a tune for long / high heat and intense track sessions. 3+ hours on a road course tends to take its toll on a car and without the proper tuning and cooling it could cause problems. Between the tune we put together and the custom built parts on the car - this is going to be a very fun partnership.

    Without the specific components, additional cooling modifications, and custom built race parts that he fabricated in his shop - this car would not run as well as it does. The car put out impressive numbers on the dyno today. It made about 443whp and 432wtq and never touched over 18.09 psi (set to hit and hold about 17.5psi but flirted with 18.09 for about 150rpms lol). We have a few more revisions to get everything dialed in perfectly. This was a third gear pull on the dyno as we ran out of time to start doing some 4th gear tuning. We will probably keep the car well under 18psi even at high load.

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    Very cool!
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Josh@Cobb Click here to enlarge
    Very cool!
    Thanks.

    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by blisstik Click here to enlarge
    What type of fuel?
    93oct

    Car will be at Bimmerfest East if anyone's interested in checking it out..
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    wow

    those fenders are sexy!

    the big wing on top of lip spoiler looks hilarious though haha
    boop

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    This car is 100% a dedicated road course racer. Its not even registered for the street Click here to enlarge i.e. illegal on the road
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by dzenno@ProTUNING Freaks Click here to enlarge
    This car is 100% a dedicated road course racer. Its not even registered for the street Click here to enlarge i.e. illegal on the road
    is there anything particular done to it that most people WOULDN'T run on the street? besides that obvious wide body .. and i guess the stripped interior
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    I'll get some details on the car as much as the shop is willing to share
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    This is pretty cool for PTF, congrats. That horsepower curve is looking good.
    Eppur si muove.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Flinchy Click here to enlarge
    is there anything particular done to it that most people WOULDN'T run on the street? besides that obvious wide body .. and i guess the stripped interior
    Presumably a stiff suspension and very little ground clearance. Clutch and, possibly, brakes may also not be suitable for street use.

    Also imagine that it no longer has air conditioning.

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    Maybe but these is a dumb question but:

    Why doesn't he have a very small scoop in the hood forcing fresh air at the filters? Or at least a vent? No cooler IATs?

    Wouldn't closing up the kidney give him better aerodynamics or is it needed for the rad or would it give no gains?

    How much weight could he lose getting rid of the stock dash and just having a race pack gauge in there?

    I am amazed how light it is and if he went all out he should be able to drop more lbs.

    Amazing car. With that light weight it must feel like a go cart. Must be an absolute blast to drive.
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Torgus Click here to enlarge
    Maybe but this is a dumb question but why doesn't he have a very small scoop in the hood forcing fresh air at the filters? Or at least a vent? Also wouldn't closing up the kidney give him better aerodynamics or is it needed for the rad?

    Amazing car. With that light weight it must feel like a go cart. Must be an absolute blast to drive.
    As for the scoop, i believe that opening is being used as a heart extractor, not an air intake or intercooler location like the STI.... Its akin to the faux heat extractors on the E92 M3 and the heat extractors on the HPF M3s hoods

    As for closing the kidneys, that would be akin to placing a huge wind resistance in the front of the car, and cause the engine to overheart, the engine and rad would have zero air-flow. BAD idea Click here to enlarge
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    Anywho, amazing car. Would love to see it in action. Featherweight doors must feel unreal
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Eric335 Click here to enlarge
    As for the scoop, i believe theat opening is being used as a heart extractor, not an air intake or intercooler location like the STI.... Its akin to the heat extractors on the E92 M3

    As for closing the kidneys, that would be akin to placing a huge wind resistance in the front of the car, and cause the engine to overheart, the engine and rad would have zero air-flow
    Heat extractor from/for the intercooler/rad?

    With a lower larger radiator and no condenser(ac removed) and dual fans would this not fix this? I only ask as he is obviously willing to fab and use not off the shelf parts.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Torgus Click here to enlarge
    Heat extractor from/for the intercooler/rad?
    Nope. For the engine/engine bay

    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Torgus Click here to enlarge
    With a lower larger radiator and no condenser(ac removed) and dual fans would this not fix this? I only ask as he is obviously willing to fab and use not off the shelf parts.
    The interccoler and radiator more than likely would be placed against eachother and therefore lose efficiency unless you could use them side by side, reducing possible size.
    As for the fans, possibly, but the fact remains you would be placing a giant sail at the front of the engine instead of letting the air flow through the front end of the car and out the bottom.
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Eric335 Click here to enlarge
    As for the fans, possibly, but the fact remains you would be placing a giant sail at the front of the engine instead of letting the air flow through the front end of the car and out the bottom.
    actually the opposite is true - it can't flow out the bottom easily anyway due to the underbody coverings... but it's usually understood that having massive grille letting the engine bay 'scoop' the air like a sail, rather than having an air dam, will decrease aerodynamics... just it's needed for cooling haha

    perfect world you'd have the front of the car perfectly smooth, no features unles they're aerodynamic too, no grilles
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Flinchy Click here to enlarge
    actually the opposite is true - it can't flow out the bottom easily anyway due to the underbody coverings... but it's usually understood that having massive grille letting the engine bay 'scoop' the air like a sail, rather than having an air dam, will decrease aerodynamics... just it's needed for cooling haha

    perfect world you'd have the front of the car perfectly smooth, no features unles they're aerodynamic too, no grilles
    Ah didnt know that. Thanks
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Eric335 Click here to enlarge
    Ah didnt know that. Thanks
    if you're interested, have a search for 'aeromodding' - it's a subset of the hypermiling community

    getting stupid miles per gallon by plastering their cars in aerodynamic aids... full sheets of PVC all over the car mostly haha

    lots of them look like complete poo, but they'll get 60MPG+
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    I'm pretty sure this car belongs to the owner of redline performance... I would have to ask my buddy what the name of the shop is again.

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    Redline at Markham/sheppard? AFAIK he only has classic muscle cars.

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    Dedicated track car? Why not run 100% e85? Or why not 109oct race gas? Sweet build... even with just 93oct @ 2500 lbs, well.... it's gotta be a real blast to drive.

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    I'm very interested to learn more about this tune and this car's mods as you may remember my engine failure a few months back from my first time at the track (see "1st Track Day = N54 Engine Failure" on d90post).

    I've switched to COBB, but am still leery of going back to the track and have been debating selling and upgrading to an M3 as it's a more track-proven platform. That said, I'd rather spend the $15-20K difference between a 335i and an M3 to further modify my 335i and make it bulletproof for the track. Basically, I love my 335i and the mods I've done so far, but I still don't quite trust pushing it (yet).

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    Definitely cool what is he using for cooling?

    Stage 2 or 2.5 E9X M3 S65 V8 supercharger kit for sale
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
    Definitely cool what is he using for cooling?
    Fresh air Click here to enlarge

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