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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by ChuckD05 Click here to enlarge
    Atco when you rent it and pay for full prep has incredible prep... thats what I think the best thing about that track is... DA's are good but I see faster times come out of cecil (350z world guys have all records there) MIR is quick, and whatever track in Fla that AK goes to seems quick as well...
    Combine great DA with great prep and what do you have? A fast track...

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
    But others do 117 pump eh?

    The top end of the S65 will always allow it to better use its power. The M3 is simply more efficient.
    Why is that so hard to believe? I also trapped 116-117mph on 93 octane down here in hot FL. On race gas, I gained another 1-2mph.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by RnmEvo9 Click here to enlarge
    Why is that so hard to believe? I also trapped 116-117mph on 93 octane down here in hot FL. On race gas, I gained another 1-2mph.
    It isn't hard to believe but there is a difference between 1 series and 3 series and applying results arbitrarily as a whole achieved in different conditions with different mods is idiotic.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
    Combine great DA with great prep and what do you have? A fast track...
    That goes for any track. It just so happens that with equal DA, Atco is still the slowest. Cecil preps the HELL out of their track. I have cut 1.84 60 foot times on stock 235 all season tires. MIR is also amazing with the prep. Either way prep has nothing to do with being fast, it has to do with being quick. Trap speeds make a track fast.

    Picking up over 2mph on a 120ish car with zero changes outside of tracks in WORSE conditions says something. Atco is not fast.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
    Soooo there is more than one car at one track... yep.

    no, there isnt, there are 2, in the huindreds of cars, and one is a a known inflated/fake track and the other noone has seen.. you love thise unicorn stuff huh.

    also, 11's isnt hard, faster than 116mph is the goal.. but yet you discount the WR from other platforms if only one guy can do it..?

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Laloosh Click here to enlarge
    That goes for any track.
    Good glad you get it that since ATCO has a reputation for great prep and also gets East Coast DA that makes it a fast track especially when compared against the rest of the country. Yay, we're done here.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Laloosh Click here to enlarge
    Lm trapped 115 in good Da modded. Yesterday he was modded with average Da and trapped 112. I don't think he ever hit 117 NA. My 135 went 13.6 at 102 stock. I witnessed a stock 335 in negative da go 13.5 at 103 with a stepteonic.
    correct, never went 117 in the M N/A hell, when i forst had the blower i was only doing 118-119, remember..

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by LostMarine Click here to enlarge
    no, there isnt, there are 2, in the huindreds of cars, and one is a a known inflated/fake track and the other noone has seen.. you love thise unicorn stuff huh.

    also, 11's isnt hard, faster than 116mph is the goal.. but yet you discount the WR from other platforms if only one guy can do it..?
    What inflated track? We keep seeing slips from Sac for 335's claiming a billion horses and I don't see any inflated traps, do you? Track reads accurately.

    M3's have run 11's with bolt on's, deal with it. It does great in NA form and it isn't designed to be some straightline car in NA form as pretty much all small displacement NA cars aren't designed to compete with gains for force induction motors which obviously will exceed them. What is hard for you to understand here I have no clue.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by LostMarine Click here to enlarge
    correct, never went 117 in the M N/A hell, when i forst had the blower i was only doing 118-119, remember..
    Well... you had a weak ass blower.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
    What inflated track? We keep seeing slips from Sac for 335's claiming a billion horses and I don't see any inflated traps, do you? Track reads accurately.

    M3's have run 11's with bolt on's, deal with it. It does great in NA form and it isn't designed to be some straightline car in NA form as pretty much all small displacement NA cars aren't designed to compete with gains for force induction motors which obviously will exceed them. What is hard for you to understand here I have no clue.
    sac has the record record time, while it was known to be inflated. whens the last time u were there? noone cares about 11's, thats traction, mph remember, that crazy thing that shows HP.. that thing everyone that ran 131mph said was more important than ET, until others did, but now its not so important?

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
    Well... you had a weak ass blower.
    i had 5 psi, doesnt matter what blower it came out of... oh, and the same blower, later in good DA did 123.. hhmm 5 mph difference with nothing but DA changes.. odd how that works out..

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    all east coast tracks are quick due to the favorable DA. Both MIR and Capitol are quick too.
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by LostMarine Click here to enlarge
    sac has the record record time, while it was known to be inflated. whens the last time u were there? noone cares about 11's, thats traction, mph remember, that crazy thing that shows HP.. that thing everyone that ran 131mph said was more important than ET, until others did, but now its not so important?
    Has the record time because of geography. If it was run at MIR in the winter it would be better.

    What's your point? Do you have one?

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Q4P Click here to enlarge
    all east coast tracks are quick due to the favorable DA. Both MIR and Capitol are quick too.
    No kidding. I have no idea why some people keep babbling on and on about nothing.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Laloosh Click here to enlarge
    That goes for any track. It just so happens that with equal DA, Atco is still the slowest. Cecil preps the HELL out of their track. I have cut 1.84 60 foot times on stock 235 all season tires. MIR is also amazing with the prep. Either way prep has nothing to do with being fast, it has to do with being quick. Trap speeds make a track fast.

    Picking up over 2mph on a 120ish car with zero changes outside of tracks in WORSE conditions says something. Atco is not fast.
    Atco used to be fast say 10 years ago, these days it's a fair track. When a bone stock AP1 S2000 can run 13.6@104 out there, something was wrong... 10 years ago.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by themyst Click here to enlarge
    Atco used to be fast say 10 years ago, these days it's a fair track. When a bone stock AP1 S2000 can run 13.6@104 out there, something was wrong... 10 years ago.
    Must be gobal warming or a conspiracy.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Q4P Click here to enlarge
    all east coast tracks are quick due to the favorable DA. Both MIR and Capitol are quick too.
    if you go at the right times, yes. all the time, no

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    Non Supercharged M3 Personal Best Times

    Name - Year/Car/State - 60ft - 1/4 MPH - 1/4 ET


    DLSJ5 - 08 e92, CA - 1.812 - 118.769 - 11.885-SAC

    Sticky - 08 e92, CA - 1.953 - 115.17 - 12.196-SAC

    David J - 08 e92, CA - 1.822 - 113.010 - 12.214

    Cptn Mo 703 - 10 e92, VA - 1.957 - 115.630 - 12.296

    eagletangogreen - 08 e92, NC - 2.013 - 115.92 - 12.366

    disapr - 10 e92, TX - 2.081 - 112.31 - 12.435

    M3DCTBT - 09 e9x, MA - 1.986 - 115.89 - 12.51-ATCO

    tinpot - 09 e92, TX - 2.184 - 111.80 - 12.637

    Moseley - 09 e92, GA - 2.034 - 109.360 - 12.785

    Dave Schotz - 08 e90, AZ - 1.920 - 109.570 - 12.830

    MiamiM3 - 09 e90, FL - 1.938 - 108.56 - 12.871

    armyav8tor - 08 e92, AL - 2.093 - 108.090 - 12.994

    LOSTMARINE-09 DCT E92 1.9 60' - 112.0 - 12.4X- ATCO








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    Name - Year/Car/State - Blower - 60ft - 1/4 MPH - 1/4 ET


    Mike W. - 09 e92, GA - ESS - 1.830 - 131.400 - 10.870 (100 shot)

    DLSJ5 - 08 e92, CA - ESS - 1.97 - 129.34 - 11.308-SAC

    DLSJ5 - 08 e92, CA - Gintani - 2.060 - 131.670 - 11.450-SAC

    prodigymb - 08 e92, NJ - ESS - 1.938 - 118.660 - 11.940-ATCO

    akh23456 - 09 e90, NJ - AA - 2.241 - 124.060 - 11.966-ATCO

    Boosted-M- 09 e92, NJ - ESS - 1.782 - 117.38 - 12.079-ATCO

    LOSTMARINE - 09 E92 - ESS - 11.9@118, ( SUMMER)-ATCO

    LOSTMARINE - 09 E92 - ESS - 11.3 @123 - ATCO




    and atco is the fast track..?

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by LostMarine Click here to enlarge
    if you go at the right times, yes. all the time, no
    That's the whole idea, weather changes. Seriously, what are we talking about still?

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by LostMarine Click here to enlarge
    Non Supercharged M3 Personal Best Times

    Name - Year/Car/State - 60ft - 1/4 MPH - 1/4 ET


    DLSJ5 - 08 e92, CA - 1.812 - 118.769 - 11.885-SAC

    Sticky - 08 e92, CA - 1.953 - 115.17 - 12.196-SAC

    David J - 08 e92, CA - 1.822 - 113.010 - 12.214

    Cptn Mo 703 - 10 e92, VA - 1.957 - 115.630 - 12.296

    eagletangogreen - 08 e92, NC - 2.013 - 115.92 - 12.366

    disapr - 10 e92, TX - 2.081 - 112.31 - 12.435

    M3DCTBT - 09 e9x, MA - 1.986 - 115.89 - 12.51-ATCO

    tinpot - 09 e92, TX - 2.184 - 111.80 - 12.637

    Moseley - 09 e92, GA - 2.034 - 109.360 - 12.785

    Dave Schotz - 08 e90, AZ - 1.920 - 109.570 - 12.830

    MiamiM3 - 09 e90, FL - 1.938 - 108.56 - 12.871

    armyav8tor - 08 e92, AL - 2.093 - 108.090 - 12.994

    LOSTMARINE-09 DCT E92 1.9 60' - 112.0 - 12.4X- ATCO








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    Name - Year/Car/State - Blower - 60ft - 1/4 MPH - 1/4 ET


    Mike W. - 09 e92, GA - ESS - 1.830 - 131.400 - 10.870 (100 shot)

    DLSJ5 - 08 e92, CA - ESS - 1.97 - 129.34 - 11.308-SAC

    DLSJ5 - 08 e92, CA - Gintani - 2.060 - 131.670 - 11.450-SAC

    prodigymb - 08 e92, NJ - ESS - 1.938 - 118.660 - 11.940-ATCO

    akh23456 - 09 e90, NJ - AA - 2.241 - 124.060 - 11.966-ATCO

    Boosted-M- 09 e92, NJ - ESS - 1.782 - 117.38 - 12.079-ATCO

    LOSTMARINE - 09 E92 - ESS - 11.9@118, ( SUMMER)-ATCO

    LOSTMARINE - 09 E92 - ESS - 11.3 @123 - ATCO




    and atco is the fast track..?
    How does people who tend to drag race the M3 more being on the west coast somehow change the DA advantage East Coast tracks enjoy? I'm amazed at some peoples logic right now.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
    Must be gobal warming or a conspiracy.
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
    How does people who tend to drag race the M3 more being on the west coast somehow change the DA advantage East Coast tracks enjoy? I'm amazed at some peoples logic right now.
    your right, the same 4 people - 2 east, 2 west means more people on the west coast go..

    but the same guy showing the same setup, at different times of the year, with no changes to hp means that undoubtedly that same track is faster, even when shown that its slower for 80% of the open season; that the west track is absolutly faster all year long ..

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
    What inflated track? We keep seeing slips from Sac for 335's claiming a billion horses and I don't see any inflated traps, do you? Track reads accurately.

    M3's have run 11's with bolt on's, deal with it. It does great in NA form and it isn't designed to be some straightline car in NA form as pretty much all small displacement NA cars aren't designed to compete with gains for force induction motors which obviously will exceed them. What is hard for you to understand here I have no clue.
    I have only heard of one E9X M3 going 11's in N/A Form.
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by LostMarine Click here to enlarge
    Non Supercharged M3 Personal Best TimesName - Year/Car/State - 60ft - 1/4 MPH - 1/4 ETDLSJ5 - 08 e92, CA - 1.812 - 118.769 - 11.885-SACSticky - 08 e92, CA - 1.953 - 115.17 - 12.196-SACDavid J - 08 e92, CA - 1.822 - 113.010 - 12.214Cptn Mo 703 - 10 e92, VA - 1.957 - 115.630 - 12.296eagletangogreen - 08 e92, NC - 2.013 - 115.92 - 12.366disapr - 10 e92, TX - 2.081 - 112.31 - 12.435M3DCTBT - 09 e9x, MA - 1.986 - 115.89 - 12.51-ATCOtinpot - 09 e92, TX - 2.184 - 111.80 - 12.637 Moseley - 09 e92, GA - 2.034 - 109.360 - 12.785Dave Schotz - 08 e90, AZ - 1.920 - 109.570 - 12.830 MiamiM3 - 09 e90, FL - 1.938 - 108.56 - 12.871armyav8tor - 08 e92, AL - 2.093 - 108.090 - 12.994LOSTMARINE-09 DCT E92 1.9 60' - 112.0 - 12.4X- ATCOSupercharged M3 Personal Best TimesName - Year/Car/State - Blower - 60ft - 1/4 MPH - 1/4 ETMike W. - 09 e92, GA - ESS - 1.830 - 131.400 - 10.870 (100 shot)DLSJ5 - 08 e92, CA - ESS - 1.97 - 129.34 - 11.308-SACDLSJ5 - 08 e92, CA - Gintani - 2.060 - 131.670 - 11.450-SACprodigymb - 08 e92, NJ - ESS - 1.938 - 118.660 - 11.940-ATCOakh23456 - 09 e90, NJ - AA - 2.241 - 124.060 - 11.966-ATCOBoosted-M- 09 e92, NJ - ESS - 1.782 - 117.38 - 12.079-ATCOLOSTMARINE - 09 E92 - ESS - 11.9@118, ( SUMMER)-ATCOLOSTMARINE - 09 E92 - ESS - 11.3 @123 - ATCO and atco is the fast track..?
    lol 100 shot car only trapped 2mph higher at a real track then SAC's bull$#@! inflated times. Great post.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by LostMarine Click here to enlarge
    your right, the same 4 people - 2 east, 2 west means more people on the west coast go..
    I think the couple on the West likely drag raced those cars a hell of a lot more. Just because it's 2 cars here 2 cars there doesn't mean everything will be equal or the conditions will be equal or the mods will be equal or... well, it doesn't mean anything really.

    I'm amazed at your lack of higher thinking at times.

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