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    First N54 plug change

    Car just hit 23,000 miles. Been tuned since 17k on JB4, 1k with COBB. Car wasn't misfiring but I just did it for preventative maintenance. How do they look? 6 was a little black to me. Car's a 2008, and I run 93 octane. Oil changed with OEM oil every 3-5k or 6 months. Turbos have 1k on them, injectors have about 9k. 1-6 in order pictured.



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    Not bad.

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    Maybe i drive a little harder, scrub that, I do drive harder lol

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    Not bad but go with NGK 5992 gapped to .022" next Click here to enlarge just better plugs overall
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by dzenno@ProTUNING Freaks Click here to enlarge
    Not bad but go with NGK 5992 gapped to .022" next Click here to enlarge just better plugs overall
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    Thanks D for your opinion! I was going to get the NGK's but chickened out at the last second and just went OEM lol.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by E90Company Click here to enlarge
    Thanks D for your opinion! I was going to get the NGK's but chickened out at the last second and just went OEM lol.

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    cyl 6 looks pretty dark compared to the rest.
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by lulz_m3 Click here to enlarge
    cyl 6 looks pretty dark compared to the rest.
    Yeah I know. I'm guesing slight injector leak. It could also just be the remains of the injectors that leaked (Original set I had up till 14k) and you still see it because plugs are original.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by E90Company Click here to enlarge
    Yeah I know. I'm guesing slight injector leak
    Is it just on one side or both?
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by lulz_m3 Click here to enlarge
    Is it just on one side or both?
    One side of the plug.

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    Giving up on mine going to buy a 911 turbo
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by E90Company Click here to enlarge
    Thanks D for your opinion! I was going to get the NGK's but chickened out at the last second and just went OEM lol.

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    No need to even consider to doubt if the NGKs are worth it. They are now running in all high hp n54s.
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    We sell the NGKs and the factory plugs. I like the NGKs but I'm not entirely sold on them being better for anything other than large turbo applications where you need to run a tighter gap. The factory plugs are very solid. I have many 500rw+ customers running the factory plugs without issue.
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Terry@BMS Click here to enlarge
    We sell the NGKs and the factory plugs. I like the NGKs but I'm not entirely sold on them being better for anything other than large turbo applications where you need to run a tighter gap. The factory plugs are very solid. I have many 500rw+ customers running the factory plugs without issue.
    I ran factory plugs on RBs without issue.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Terry@BMS Click here to enlarge
    We sell the NGKs and the factory plugs. I like the NGKs but I'm not entirely sold on them being better for anything other than large turbo applications where you need to run a tighter gap. The factory plugs are very solid. I have many 500rw+ customers running the factory plugs without issue.
    I agree. I don't think the NGK's would hurt anything by any means, but the OEM plugs are more than capable and have been handling big power until the NGK "fad" hit.

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    Yet, no downside to running colder plugs with higher boost either.

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    I was always taught you want the widest gap you can get by with. Where .022 might be good for higher boost applications I'd think you'd want to widen it a bit for factory turbo cars. But a lot of previous research I remember was done on distributor based cars that no minimal control over timing where our coil on plug and tuning options might make all those previous studies worthless. While I doubt much of a difference on WOT runs has anybody done tests on overall driving impressions, throttle responce and fuel economy?
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    Here is a little update. I don't know if the injector is leaking or not, but I went to smell my oil by opening the oil cap today and it smells like gas. Cold starts up fine, no codes. I don't know.

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    It's common for a little gas to get in the oil (blow by). Blackstone actually recommends you bring the oil up to operating temperature before taking a sample to allow the gas to evaporate. If you don't you'll end up with erroneous fuel dilution numbers in your oil analysis.

    If you are worried, take a sample and send it in. Just warm up the engine first, and take the sample from the middle of the oil stream i.e. don't use the oil that first flows out of the pan, or the oil when the pan is just about done draining. Sample the oil from the pan when it has emptied approximately half way.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by ajm8127 Click here to enlarge
    It's common for a little gas to get in the oil (blow by). Blackstone actually recommends you bring the oil up to operating temperature before taking a sample to allow the gas to evaporate. If you don't you'll end up with erroneous fuel dilution numbers in your oil analysis.

    If you are worried, take a sample and send it in. Just warm up the engine first, and take the sample from the middle of the oil stream i.e. don't use the oil that first flows out of the pan, or the oil when the pan is just about done draining. Sample the oil from the pan when it has emptied approximately half way.
    This makes me feel better, thanks. I thought I might have had a major issue, or injector leak. It smells like gas, I think I may get an oil sample and send it in.

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    How much is a blackstone analysis?
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Eric335 Click here to enlarge
    How much is a blackstone analysis?
    $25

    http://www.blackstone-labs.com/standard-analysis.php

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    Giving up on mine going to buy a 911 turbo
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