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    GIAC Flash cracks 400 whp - 91 octane and no meth

    M5.5's car with the GIAC map switching. Does have a spike in the curve but flashes are progressing nicely. 91 octane and no meth:

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    looks good, glad to see they are going past 14 psi, as some eluded to flash's not being able to do so.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by LostMarine Click here to enlarge
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    looks good, glad to see they are going past 14 psi, as some eluded to flash's not being able to do so.
    From what I understand that was a limitation from an old file that originated in Europe and was passed around. It originated from Alpina I believe.
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    either way, Giac is looking to be a good contender, as it always has

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by LostMarine Click here to enlarge
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    either way, Giac is looking to be a good contender, as it always has
    Looking a bit better now... especially with power left on the table.
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    that is pretty impressive
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    Finally some power with a flash, but, I wouldn't call this breaking through the 400rwhp since it's a spike and the graph is in STD and not SAE, but still impressive.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by MSpiredM3 Click here to enlarge
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    Finally some power with a flash, but, I wouldn't call this breaking through the 400rwhp since it's a spike and the graph is in STD and not SAE, but still impressive.
    The peak HP is not affected by the spike and he also left considerable power on the table so I think it is a bit of a break through Click here to enlarge
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
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    The peak HP is not affected by the spike and he also left considerable power on the table so I think it is a bit of a break through Click here to enlarge
    You are right, I was looking at the TQ curve by accident.

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    Was this with full bolt ons?

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by DarkPhantom Click here to enlarge
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    Was this with full bolt ons?
    I believe so.
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by DarkPhantom Click here to enlarge
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    Was this with full bolt ons?
    Yeah prob. he is on his game.
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    Looks good Craig but you better bring more than that to the dyno shootout! Click here to enlarge

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    What was ambient temp? If I can hit 400whp on 93 with no meth full bolt-on in this $#@!ty Corpus weather I will be a happy person. Anybody have comparable JB3, Standback or Proceed dyno? I don't see many non-meth 400+whp. Or maybe I am just blind/$#@!ty searcher.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by SlicktopTTZ Click here to enlarge
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    What was ambient temp? If I can hit 400whp on 93 with no meth full bolt-on in this $#@!ty Corpus weather I will be a happy person. Anybody have comparable JB3, Standback or Proceed dyno? I don't see many non-meth 400+whp. Or maybe I am just blind/$#@!ty searcher.
    We've had 2-3 JB3 customers hit 400rw on pump gas but it ain't easy. Takes around 16.5psi (e.g. more than map 7 levels), and a generous dyno. 380rw is more realistic.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Terry@BMS Click here to enlarge
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    We've had 2-3 JB3 customers hit 400rw on pump gas but it ain't easy. Takes around 16.5psi (e.g. more than map 7 levels), and a generous dyno. 380rw is more realistic.
    So this would be considered a generous dyno? I really wish I knew the ambient temps. I want to hit 400whp, even if it just taps it, when it is 80F outside without meth on our 93octane 10% ethanol blend. With 80/20 meth/water mix I don't know, 460ish whp?

    I think I can do it, or get very close, with the mod list I have in mind......

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    nice to see this. isnt a flashtune less prone to all the cel and half cel's coming on?

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by skifreek Click here to enlarge
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    nice to see this. isnt a flashtune less prone to all the cel and half cel's coming on?
    In theory it should be if tuned well.
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    Awesome! Looks very promising, I'll take a good proper flash tune over piggy-backing any day of the week.

    How is the GIAC flash for the M3, considered one of the strongest as well?

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by skifreek Click here to enlarge
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    nice to see this. isnt a flashtune less prone to all the cel and half cel's coming on?
    It depends on the type of CEL. But in theory you can just turn the CEL off all together with a flash tune. We can do the same thing on the piggyback side by continually deleting codes before they cause a CEL. So it's up to the tuner to do a good job, and not getting a CEL doesn't necessarily indicate that. Click here to enlarge

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    How is the GIAC flash for the M3, considered one of the strongest as well?
    It isn't considered one of the strongest. Drew has had great results with it but it is a canned tune not a custom dyno tune. Nothing wrong with it, just not one of the strongest options.
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    Sticky, don't mean to threadjack...but what OTS (of the shelf) tunes for the ///M are strong? Granted going custom would be the way to go...just curious what you've heard/seen on these cars.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by BASELINE Click here to enlarge
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    Sticky, don't mean to threadjack...but what OTS (of the shelf) tunes for the ///M are strong? Granted going custom would be the way to go...just curious what you've heard/seen on these cars.
    The OTS tunes are around the same range. Thing is, no one has to settle for off the shelf anymore with things like the EZ Flash existing. Now you can just download your map and send it directly the tuner from wherever you are and upload the map back in when done. Still, you always want a dyno tune.

    GIAC is a nice tune for the S65, no doubt about it, but mild. Active's is nice as well. I don't have any experience with the Turner Motorsport tune but would not advise against it. ESS I would advise against for a canned tune as their tune did lose power on this motor at one point and people who have tried the ESS tune have switched back to powerchip. There was a big mess regarding this at Mfest.

    I had a tune done by Jeremy (now of OE Tuning) when he worked at Powerchip. It was very strong.

    Is an OTS tune something you would be interested in?
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    In the event I pick an E90 as my next DD car I was thinking of having Tony at EPL tune it. He's a personal friend and is 20 miles from me. I was curious as to what the options and players for the S65 were as I'm getting back to the BMW world after a few years hiatus. ;-)

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