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    New stock turbo dyno record, 4/25/13

    Hey guys,

    Had a chance to get our E92 manual back to the dyno today. We've recently replaced the clutch and added a meth kit.

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    I'll post the log later but peak boost was ~20.5psi and we're running around 13 degrees peak advance on it. Overall car performed very well and we were happy to raise the bar on stock turbo performance a bit. Click here to enlarge

    Attached is the dyno sheet and a photo of the car & Jon working the dyno software.
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    Very nice result! Btw you're E92 looks exactly like mine Click here to enlarge is it a '10?

    interested in the log
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    Good result. Must upgrade to the G5.
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    Nice! Over 500tq on the stockers is insane.
    Great job
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    Nice!
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    did u use n20 map sensor

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    I hit 469 hp and 491 tq on stock turbos a few weeks ago on map 6 with garth at Undercover tuning. I will see if he can send me that pull. FBO+100% e85 with BMS Flash. Did not realize the stock turbo HP record was mine Click here to enlarge, that was with a failing HPFP that kept falling on its face in the midrange but recovering up top. @undercoverangie can you ask garth to dig up the dyno graphs and send the 469/491 pull to me so I can post it.
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by AltecBX Click here to enlarge
    Nice! Over 500tq on the stockers is insane.
    Great job
    Been there done that Click here to enlarge
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    Damn, how "safe" is 21psi midrange on stockers??? And I thought 19 was too aggressive Click here to enlarge
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by benzy89 Click here to enlarge
    Damn, how "safe" is 21psi midrange on stockers??? And I thought 19 was too aggressive Click here to enlarge
    I guess only time will tell. I've ran 20 psi for a while with no issues
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by benzy89 Click here to enlarge
    Damn, how "safe" is 21psi midrange on stockers??? And I thought 19 was too aggressive Click here to enlarge
    Safe is a relative term. The turbos already smoke a bit on the car and will be replaced at some point in the near future. So from that perspective I don't have any issues with it. From an engine safety standpoint this is a lot of boost for the fuel being used. If doing runway runs for example I'd probably tone it down to 19psi peak. Which was around 440rw.
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    Congrats T..!

    Now lets see some 60-130mph times !!
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Njz Click here to enlarge
    I hit 469 hp and 491 tq on stock turbos a few weeks ago on map 6 with garth at Undercover tuning. I will see if he can send me that pull. FBO+100% e85 with BMS Flash. Did not realize the stock turbo HP record was mine Click here to enlarge, that was with a failing HPFP that kept falling on its face in the midrange but recovering up top. @undercoverangie can you ask garth to dig up the dyno graphs and send the 469/491 pull to me so I can post it.

    This is also on a DynoJet that reads WAY higher then our dyno... requested that Garth finds your pulls.. he is very intrigued by this
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    For dyno records you normally need to use a dynojet due to how standardized they are. Load dynos can be all over the place depending on settings, correction factors used, etc. But I have a feeling both cars are in the same ballpark since they are using the same tuning. Click here to enlarge
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Terry@BMS Click here to enlarge
    Safe is a relative term. The turbos already smoke a bit on the car and will be replaced at some point in the near future. So from that perspective I don't have any issues with it. From an engine safety standpoint this is a lot of boost for the fuel being used. If doing runway runs for example I'd probably tone it down to 19psi peak. Which was around 440rw.
    Would 21psi be okay on straight E85?? Or is that still too much boost to run on the stock turbos + expect them to last?
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by benzy89 Click here to enlarge
    Would 21psi be okay on straight E85?? Or is that still too much boost to run on the stock turbos + expect them to last?
    It's just an excersize in tuning. This run was done using all off the shelf stuff. Our canned backend flash, JB4 map 3 using an 85 additive iirc, etc. To try to achieve this without meth would require some work on the flash and fuel system side but should be doable. I'd start by getting map 7 going, which is 18.5psi peak. That should get you in the 440rw range. From there you'd have to add boost as fueling allowed. This same car did around 448rw on E85 only at around 20psi iirc.

    The turbos won't last like that but are cheap to replace. The bigger risk would be engine damage if it was not tuned up properly and you were doing long runway runs with it.
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    Is pwm WGDC? If so how to translate to %. I want to see this on the track before it gets too hot.

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    40 is 80% PWM. Fairly aggressive but it's not at 100%. Click here to enlarge
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Terry@BMS Click here to enlarge
    40 is 80% PWM. Fairly aggressive but it's not at 100%. Click here to enlarge
    what AFR are you targetting midrange and high end?
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    So tempting, especially when I have a fresh set of turbos. Stock clutch though. Nice numbers T!

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    Terry, nice numbers. Looks like I need to post my numbers to put out the fire. LOL BTW, what did you eat after Shift S3ctor? Put on a few pounds. :-)~


    (For all those who made the assumption that could be Terry in the dyno picture, well it's not. He's not that good looking. LOL )

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by marv85 Click here to enlarge
    what AFR are you targetting midrange and high end?
    Here is the lambda targets from the flash map. Load is around 110 across the board.
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Wedge1967 Click here to enlarge
    Terry, nice numbers. Looks like I need to post my numbers to put out the fire. LOL BTW, what did you eat after Shift S3ctor? Put on a few pounds. :-)~


    (For all those who made the assumption that could be Terry in the dyno picture, well it's not. He's not that good looking. LOL )
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Terry@BMS Click here to enlarge
    Hey I still have a few gallons of FTWE85 to throw in when someone passes us up. Click here to enlarge

    Photo is Jon @ BMS. We both took sabbaticals from our male underwear modeling careers to start BMS. Click here to enlarge
    haha... FTW baby... I'm afraid to put that stuff back in my car... I still have what I pumped out of my tank on Sunday at SS... Hopefully I'll have all the bugs worked out of my car next week. Already had one dealership kick me out the door and told me never to bring my car back to them because they found a few things. Didn't pull my Alpina flash and they flagged it in diag along with a few other things. Lucky for me the SA was a friend of a friend and they didn't send anything up to BMW. So I'm going on Monday to have my normal dealership replace my injectors and fix anything else they find wrong. Probably should have taken it to them anyway, but it was a dry run to see what they would find. So she's back to 100% stock now and hopefully they don't have any issue doing the certification for turbo replacement. Hopefully my car won't smoke anymore. LOL If not, I'll have to find a dealership that will. Road trip... Click here to enlarge

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    Bah, get some bigger turbos on it anyway, and call it a day. Click here to enlarge

    (I'm a bit spooked on the FTW myself... We put some in the N55 and it seemed fine but a day or two later it's misfiring randomly. Coincidence? Not sure... But I won't be running the stuff anymore unless absolutely necessary. e.g. if the car does 11.001 or something)
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