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    Datalogged and need interpretation

    Hello everyone! I sent this as an email to Vishnu on Sunday and am patiently awaiting a reply by their guys. Hopefully it will be sometime this week. They have not let me down before and i hope they dont start now.

    Anywho, here is what i sent:

    Hello Vishnu and Co.!

    First off ill give you my mods/mileage/tranny/etc:

    2007 E92 335i 6MT
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    Always use Shell or BP 93 octane gasoline
    New spark plugs about 6k miles ago, and i replaced a single coilpack that was misfiring 2k miles ago

    I had been running the 9-10 Aggresive 93 octane map for a long time, and it had performed fairly well. Occasionally rough idle/jerky. It started acting up about a month ago, and since the weather is getting so much hotter, i decided to go easy on the car and just use the stock map. Ive used that for about a month now, and i find that it is too slow, so today i decided to try the 7-29 Autotuning maps. I reset the Procede, then loaded up the 7-29 DIC 6MT map for the Stock Turbo.

    The car has been running fantastic, smooth and pulls harder than the stock tune i was running for a while. But one thing i noticed is that im getting a 'farty/bassy/boomy' sound when im about 75%+ throttle in high RPMs (like 4k-7k). At WOT it either performs well, or i cant hear the farty sound as much because everything else is louder. The farty/bassy sound reminds me of when it started misfiring before i replaced the spark plugs .Before i would get this farty sound, then a jerk, and a CEL. That was solved by the new plugs.

    Am i losing another coilpack? Plugs? If so, how can i single out which one(s) if the car isnt actually misfiring yet? Is it something else entirely? I attached a datalog to help the cause. It started out from a standstill and i got on it in 2nd and kept it till the end of 3rd.

    Thanks for the support,

    Eric


    And here is a photo of some of the data:

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    I am having trouble attaching the CSV file to this thread, so sent me a PM with your email if you want to check it out. The channels that im displaying go in this order:


    View 1: Both AFR banks
    View 2: Boost
    View 3: RPM
    View 4: Both Fuel Trim Banks
    View 5: IAT
    View 6: Throttle Position

    At around the 16 second mark the AFRs are at a steady 11.2 - 11.6 (this is third gear). Same thing at the 12 second mark in second gear. The boost is flat-lining at around 13 psi at WOT.

    Appreciate all the info i can get! The sound truly is 'farty' or 'bassy' blasting sound when under heavy load. I texted @E90SoFlo and he thought it might be a coilpack going out. Let me know what you think! Id be more than happy to upload anything else you need to help me figure it out! I know @Terry@BMS will know how to interpret this easily even though it isnt his job to do so. Thats what makes him amazing Click here to enlarge

    -Eric

    PS- Sorry for any $#@!ty grammar, get over it Click here to enlarge
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    I have a hard time reading Procede's separated datalogs, but looks good to me.

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    Too busy this week to look at the logs but that sound in general often means you're running lean. Maybe maxing out part throttle fuel trims, etc. So check those and the AFR when the sound comes up to see if there is a correlation. If there is increase open loop mapping in that area or reduce boost targets.
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    I think it's funny that Terry responds and provides assistance before shiv or Vishnu in general
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by marv85 Click here to enlarge
    I think it's funny that Terry responds and provides assistance before shiv or Vishnu in general
    Lol. I know

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by E90Company Click here to enlarge
    Lol. I know
    how's is going on your end? PM me so we don;t thread jack
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    Is it just me or are the fuel trims really high in this log?
    2007 335i (100% stock with mods)

    N54 is not a German 2JZ lol

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Q4P Click here to enlarge
    Is it just me or are the fuel trims really high in this log?
    I have no idea. Not as familiar as i would like to be.... All i know is shoot for 12 AFR at WOT and what the boost taper should be

    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Terry@BMS Click here to enlarge
    Too busy this week to look at the logs but that sound in general often means you're running lean. Maybe maxing out part throttle fuel trims, etc. So check those and the AFR when the sound comes up to see if there is a correlation. If there is increase open loop mapping in that area or reduce boost targets.
    Your the best Terry. Thanks for the time and opinion. +rep



    Since im averaging 11.2-11.6 AFR at WOT, would this show that your opinion is correct? I have autotuning ON by the way, so not sure how much of a difference that would make...
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Eric335 Click here to enlarge
    I have no idea. Not as familiar as i would like to be.... All i know is shoot for 12 AFR at WOT and what the boost taper should be



    Your the best Terry. Thanks for the time and opinion. +rep



    Since im averaging 11.2-11.6 AFR at WOT, would this show that your opinion is correct? I have autotuning ON by the way, so not sure how much of a difference that would make...
    So I could have no idea what I am talking about but... your AFR looks fine IMHO but your trims are essentially maxed at some points... this is somewhat odd to me.
    2007 335i (100% stock with mods)

    N54 is not a German 2JZ lol

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Q4P Click here to enlarge
    So I could have no idea what I am talking about but... your AFR looks fine IMHO but your trims are essentially maxed at some points... this is somewhat odd to me.
    HPFP failing....?
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by marv85 Click here to enlarge
    I think it's funny that Terry responds and provides assistance before shiv or Vishnu in general

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    Do you have debug byte 4 datalogged by any chance?

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Jeller Click here to enlarge
    Do you have debug byte 4 datalogged by any chance?
    What is this? The DME Codes?
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    Debug Byte 4 is the HPFP voltage output (from Procede to DME) signal. The lower you make it, the more the DME will compensate (increase injector pulse-width) for what it believes to be low fuel pressure condition. The catch is, if you reduce this signal too much (say below 1.5v), a fuel pressure code will be triggered


    If it's near 1.5, which is probably the case,
    you have no more room. You'll need to get a base flash for fueling
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    Beat me to it^

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    adjust open loop fueling to 100% 34.1 fuel trims mean maxed. I don't remember if AT maps have the scalar. If not go directly into your open loop fuel map and raise everything that's higher than 7 by 1. You can control + arrow keys then pgup and pgdown to control a grouping. Differences in Waste gate position will change the noise. Try 20% 50% 75% 90% here for wastegate rattle.
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by marv85 Click here to enlarge
    I think it's funny that Terry responds and provides assistance before shiv or Vishnu in general
    This has always cracked me up a bit.. oh the irony.
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    11 days and no reply from anyone related to Vishnu Tuning. Classy, Vishnu. Classy....
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    I hate PROcede logs, but strictly looking at the 10-13 second range on the logs the Fuel Trims are maxed out, but luckily your AFR looks like it's still good. Chances are if you every hear from Vishnu, they'll tell you A) something is wrong with your car or B) buy the PROcede Rev3 and everything will work 100%
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    OP if you're maxing fuel trims, you need to lean out your AFR bias a bit (11's is a bit too rich) and raise open loop (fuel pressure). Easy fix, just not user friendly.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by themyst Click here to enlarge
    OP if you're maxing fuel trims, you need to lean out your AFR bias a bit (11's is a bit too rich) and raise open loop (fuel pressure). Easy fix, just not user friendly.
    I just saw your reply, sorry. Ill double check my OL settings next time I can. What do I do if its at 0? Raise it to 10? 20?
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    I have nearly identical logs to the OPs. I can also feel that something is not exactly right when I'm WOT in the top 3 gears. I am running meth as well though. If i'm running hard and start in 2nd and go all the way to the top of 5th its fine, if i'm on the highway and drop to 4th or 5th and go wot I can feel that the engine is just a bit rough. I think its time to make some small specific changes to a table just don't know where to start or how to do it safely.

    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by themyst Click here to enlarge
    OP if you're maxing fuel trims, you need to lean out your AFR bias a bit (11's is a bit too rich) and raise open loop (fuel pressure). Easy fix, just not user friendly.
    @Eric2335 OL Fueling is under User Adjustable. It seems that 95% is the sweet spot for most people, and what is suggested the most.

    @themyst - whats the right way to adjust the AFR bias?

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by dblrguy Click here to enlarge
    I have nearly identical logs to the OPs. I can also feel that something is not exactly right when I'm WOT in the top 3 gears. I am running meth as well though. If i'm running hard and start in 2nd and go all the way to the top of 5th its fine, if i'm on the highway and drop to 4th or 5th and go wot I can feel that the engine is just a bit rough. I think its time to make some small specific changes to a table just don't know where to start or how to do it safely.



    @Eric2335 OL Fueling is under User Adjustable. It seems that 95% is the sweet spot for most people, and what is suggested the most.

    @themyst - whats the right way to adjust the AFR bias?

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    you will need to convert kpa to psi and adjust the fuel related tables in the user defined fuel tables. like I said it wont be user friendly.

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