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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sparky68 Click here to enlarge
    They are deleting my posts as well and then deleting the posts that complain about them deleting posts!!!!

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by dzenno@ProTUNING Freaks Click here to enlarge
    Hey Shiv any chance you could post up a Smoothing of 5 dyno graph LOL
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    May be also a dyno without meth? not trying to bash, just interested Click here to enlarge
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    So is there a reason he has to use a customer's car to break 700 and not his own car? Is his car getting some work done to it?


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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by marv85 Click here to enlarge
    May be also a dyno without meth? not trying to bash, just interested Click here to enlarge
    or even a overlaid dyno showing consistent pulls at that level, wouldn't want anyone thinking it was a glory run.
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by M3_WC Click here to enlarge
    So is there a reason he has to use a customer's car to break 700 and not his own car? Is his car getting some work done to it?
    Because he blew his own car up I thought was the reason.

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    I have all the faith that Tony will easily surpass this.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Itsbrokeagain Click here to enlarge
    I have all the faith that Tony will easily surpass this.
    i doubt that the 6466 is anywhere near maxed out either Click here to enlarge both have room to go
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    I since by May 5th we will have hit the 800whp mark. I call it now!

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Ak335i Click here to enlarge
    i doubt that the 6466 is anywhere near maxed out either Click here to enlarge both have room to go
    I'm sure of that. The real question with the 6466 is what can be done with spool. We know the twins can be easily improved via tuning. Getting close with yours? Click here to enlarge
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    Couldn't rep you but that $#@! is hilarious!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Q4P Click here to enlarge
    Do you guys know what the difference between a 500 WHP and 700 WHP vishnu single car is?

    None, they both run 11's... lol
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Ak335i Click here to enlarge
    i doubt that the 6466 is anywhere near maxed out either Click here to enlarge both have room to go
    This is correct, the 6466 has plenty of ceiling left.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Terry@BMS Click here to enlarge
    I'm sure of that. The real question with the 6466 is what can be done with spool. We know the twins can be easily improved via tuning. Getting close with yours? Click here to enlarge
    very close Click here to enlarge they are finishing exhaust today, waiting on an exhaust part to come in Friday (4" exhaust isn't the easiest to get parts for, but we won't settle for less than we wanted) then all that's left Is heat shielding/wire relocation that every one was freaked out about lol.. and 02 sensors
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    T, 4400 isn't bad with that turbo. That thing's pretty big LOL.

    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Terry@BMS Click here to enlarge
    lol typical Shiv. Click here to enlarge

    Random thoughts:

    1) The accepted standard for this platform has always been STD smoothing 5. Also it's good form to post the same chart by road speed to verify they were done in 4th gear.
    2) Why are the runs with this turbo not being done on Shiv's car?
    3) His chart has been stretched out horizontally and flattened vertically to make the curve look visually more impressive. Funny. You learn new marketing tricks every day watching Shiv operate. Where is my popcorn. Click here to enlarge
    4) In what world is full boost at ~4400rpm "lighting fast spool"? Hopefully that can be improved!
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by VargasTurboTech Click here to enlarge
    This is correct, the 6466 has plenty of ceiling left.
    and your head flanges are on the big 6466 build Click here to enlarge we will be using your hpfp and the walboro lpfp and see big HP on e85 without meth. My build is a Lil bit of everyone's (St concept/jb4 g5/Cobb/Vargas head flanges/Vargas upgraded hpfp/walboro lpfp). Win for everyone
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by bigdnno98 Click here to enlarge
    T, 4400 isn't bad with that turbo. That thing's pretty big LOL.
    I used to drive around with a 4500rpm stall speed torque converter and know livable and ideal are separate things. Click here to enlarge

    The point of a twin setup is to get rotational mass down for a quicker spool with the same mass flow potential. So for say 700rw if the single is spooling at 4400 I'd hope a properly setup and tuned twin sized for the same mass flow can get that down at least 500rpm. Otherwise what is the point of doubling up the hardware? That lower spool makes a HUGE difference in real world performance. More controllable power, less shock to the tires when you do get in to boost, broader more usable power band, etc. Why do you think stock turbo automatic N54s run 11.2 and we've yet to see a single turbo automatic N54 beat that time yet with 200whp more? Click here to enlarge
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    This one is getting fun:

    Discussion: Upgrade N54 Twin Turbo vs. Upgraded Single Turbo (yeah,its still early)

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    exactly correct T. Most people would sacrafice the 500RPM spool for the cheaper price and easier install of the ST kit. Well that is other ST kits haha. Tony's OEM style wastegate control is pretty genius and makes it a lot easier to tune, i'm sure, than the FFTEC kit.

    I'll throw you a curve ball though and say, i'd love to see a full-race twin scroll kit with a BW EFR8374 and see how that compares in total power and spool to both the FFTEC and the VTT kit.

    It's so interesting, I keep checking the forum like every 30 minutes and not getting any work done LOL.[

    QUOTE=Terry@BMS;443920]I used to drive around with a 4500rpm stall speed torque converter and know livable and ideal are separate things. Click here to enlarge

    The point of a twin setup is to get rotational mass down for a quicker spool with the same mass flow potential. So for say 700rw if the single is spooling at 4400 I'd hope a properly setup and tuned twin sized for the same mass flow can get that down at least 500rpm. Otherwise what is the point of doubling up the hardware? That lower spool makes a HUGE difference in real world performance. More controllable power, less shock to the tires when you do get in to boost, broader more usable power band, etc. Why do you think stock turbo automatic N54s run 11.2 and we've yet to see a single turbo automatic N54 beat that time yet with 200whp more? Click here to enlarge[/QUOTE]
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    To me, and many could disagree... the power under the curve is the most important thing. Fueling is one thing, max power is another but if all of my power is at the top of the rev range then this car is no longer a dd.
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by bigdnno98 Click here to enlarge
    It's so interesting, I keep checking the forum like every 30 minutes and not getting any work done LOL.
    I can't even wait every 30min haha.

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    IMHO, I wouldn't run the Vargas ST even if it had a slight edge simply because I wouldn't want to run the PROcede, it still hasn't consistently run 100% and the constant, ongoing tune updates.

    But I'm a 6AT and neither the Vargas Stg 3s nor comparable Vishnu ST are realistic options
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by benzy89 Click here to enlarge
    IMHO, I wouldn't run the Vishnu ST even if it had a slight edge simply because I wouldn't want to run the PROcede, it still hasn't consistently run 100% and the constant, ongoing tune updates.

    But I'm a 6AT and neither the Vargas Stg 3s nor comparable Vishnu ST are realistic options

    Fixed.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by ATP Click here to enlarge
    Fixed.
    WOW, thank you
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    Got an infraction, yay.....

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Terry@BMS Click here to enlarge
    I used to drive around with a 4500rpm stall speed torque converter and know livable and ideal are separate things. Click here to enlarge

    The point of a twin setup is to get rotational mass down for a quicker spool with the same mass flow potential. So for say 700rw if the single is spooling at 4400 I'd hope a properly setup and tuned twin sized for the same mass flow can get that down at least 500rpm. Otherwise what is the point of doubling up the hardware? That lower spool makes a HUGE difference in real world performance. More controllable power, less shock to the tires when you do get in to boost, broader more usable power band, etc. Why do you think stock turbo automatic N54s run 11.2 and we've yet to see a single turbo automatic N54 beat that time yet with 200whp more? Click here to enlarge
    Inertia is the common thought, but some knowledgable turbo people say manufacturing tolerances have a significant effect.

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