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    Here's one of my earlier logs(i forgot i still had my lap top in the car.) Unfortunately there was some overboosting going on in this one and boost was generally 1 psi over what i was "targeting" but it's still a decent idea of what's going on. WGDC topped out under 60 up top in this log and i actually am running less WGDC up top now holding the same boost.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by rader1 Click here to enlarge
    Here's one of my earlier logs(i forgot i still had my lap top in the car.) Unfortunately there was some overboosting going on in this one and boost was generally 1 psi over what i was "targeting" but it's still a decent idea of what's going on. WGDC topped out under 60 up top in this log and i actually am running less WGDC up top now holding the same boost.
    What I find strange is why does it take so much for the Vargas Stage 2 turbos to reach the target boost ? It doesn't reach the target boost until 3600RPM. The RBs reach the target boost at least 500RPM earlier, and without any lean spool enabled. Also the target boost doesn't seem to be able to be held at higher RPMs.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by cstavaru Click here to enlarge
    What I find strange is why does it take so much for the Vargas Stage 2 turbos to reach the target boost ? It doesn't reach the target boost until 3600RPM. The RBs reach the target boost at least 500RPM earlier, and without any lean spool enabled. Also the target boost doesn't seem to be able to be held at higher RPMs.
    That was an early map and a second gear pull. Due to the rapid increase in local traffic and law enforcement most of my tuning has to be done in 2nd gear now Click here to enlarge

    Spool has improved through some tuning and in 4th gear it spools a lot faster. However, i don't have any logs of a 4th gear pull because, quite frankly, i'm scared of the speeds the top of 4th gear would put me.
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by rader1 Click here to enlarge
    That was an early map and a second gear pull. Due to the rapid increase in local traffic and law enforcement most of my tuning has to be done in 2nd gear now Click here to enlarge

    Spool has improved through some tuning and in 4th gear it spools a lot faster. However, i don't have any logs of a 4th gear pull because, quite frankly, i'm scared of the speeds the top of 4th gear would put me.
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    Nice to see some data but logs from the dyno will be the easiest to make direct comparisons with.
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    Why isn't anyone pushing these so we can compare them to RBs?

    They have been in customers hands for almost 2 months by now right?

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Torgus Click here to enlarge
    Why isn't anyone pushing these so we can compare them to RBs?

    They have been in customers hands for almost 2 months by now right?
    I wont speak for anyone, but it seems from the customers I have talked to they are more interested in 200+ hp delta gains and reliability not glory runs, pushing them past the limits that have now been well established for stock frame turbos will no doubt provide similar numbers. But for how long. The thrust upgrade will help no doubt, but for how long at those RPM, heat, and Back pressure levels. We dont know yet.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by VargasTurboTech Click here to enlarge
    I wont speak for anyone, but it seems from the customers I have talked to they are more interested in 200+ hp delta gains and reliability not glory runs, pushing them past the limits that have now been well established for stock frame turbos will no doubt provide similar numbers. But for how long. The thrust upgrade will help no doubt, but for how long at those RPM, heat, and Back pressure levels. We dont know yet.

    that's almost as bad as chastising Shiv for stating that his customers don't drag their cars because they are simply enjoying them.


    Run them at 20 psi tapering to 17 at redline E85 + meth throw it on a dynojet and let the results speak for themselves. take it to the drag strip for a run or two. a few runs won't break anything. if they do they are no better in terms of reliability over RB's.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by themyst Click here to enlarge
    that's almost as bad as chastising Shiv for stating that his customers don't drag their cars because they are simply enjoying them.


    Run them at 20 psi tapering to 17 at redline E85 + meth throw it on a dynojet and let the results speak for themselves. take it to the drag strip for a run or two. a few runs won't break anything. if they do they are no better in terms of reliability over RB's.
    We are hardware builders, shiv is a tuner. It is his job to extract the horsepower from the products he has other people like us builds for him. I have never said his customers need to be out there racing their ST cars. That is their choice, I cannot tell my customers to run their turbos on dyno glory runs or the drag strip until they break a set. You want to do that, that's your choice you buy a set and see what you can get out of them. Everyone is happy with the power they are producing and I am not worried about them will matching RB power numbers if pushed as I am confident they will. As a hardware builder you build a product and you provide proof that it works as advertised, this is what we did with stage 1,2, and 3, we could have keep pushing stage 3 up until we broke the motor but we built a kit and proved it does what it is supposed to do, that is our job as a hardware builder. Another difference between our products and Shiv's is we allow people to use any tuner they choose. I know people have plans to race and hit the dyno in the very near future. We should see some more results soon

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    It just takes some time. Remember with RBs it took months for good data to come out. We've got dyno and logs @ 19psi tapering to 16psi from radar coming so that should at least give us an idea where these stand.
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    I look forward to hearing more updates of these. I'd love to have some stage 2 turbos installed, though I am leaving the Bay Area in a month and I don't know whether you guys would have time. I would be yet another member of the disappointing reliability crowd. Given the boost I am pushing, these stock turbos would certainly be far more stressed at high altitude, and I am going back to Colorado. It would be nice to have something beefier for reliability sake.

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    Cant wait to see the out come. Good job guys

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by e36ing Click here to enlarge
    Cant wait to see the out come. Good job guys
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    I added a pos rep in your honor

    i'll post up some new meth logs this week. I just need to clean my air filters as they are basically caked with poop. I'll probably clean those suckers tonight
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    lol.. threw him a pos rep also.
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    Just gave him the pos rep of life Click here to enlarge he is positive again
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by dzenno@ProTUNING Freaks Click here to enlarge
    Ooops sorry for neg rep...was meant to pos rep given your low post count and just getting on the forum...@Sticky any way to fix this?
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    If all goes well in the next few days, I should have Vargas Stage 2's in my FBO car by next week. I went from JB3 -> JB4 -> COBB -> PROcede (currently). I want to essentially run 93 + 30-50% E85. I'm undecided on what to do for the tune. There is a dyno day coming June 1st, hopefully I can get some numbers for everyone.

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    If you run the procede/jb, you'll need to use a flash for fueling
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    When I receive my set of stage 2's Ill be running full E85 tune and shooting for 500 awhp.
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by jpsimon Click here to enlarge
    If you run the procede/jb, you'll need to use a flash for fueling
    +1
    Also, if you're going with with an ethanol mix you're LPFP will not be unable to keep up. Even on the "conservative" side we were seeing ~500g/s of air near redline where stockers being "pushed' will typically move closer to 440g/s and in general there is a ~50g/s increase in airflow across the board. These turbos move a lot more air than stockers and will need more fueling. I'm hoping for my E40 tune that meth will provide enough of a fueling bump...
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    [QUOTE=jpsimon;458555]If you run the procede/jb, you'll need to use a flash for fueling[/QUOTE

    Do you need a flash for fueling with jb/procede if just using 93 pump or 93 pump + meth? Or is it just for mixing e85?

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    I run 93+meth and needed it
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