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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Amerkin Click here to enlarge
    I ran I believe three BMWs, two M3s one turbocharged and one centrigugal supercharged, and Terry Burgers 135i (lost to Terry only), and a Merc e63 with aWeistec stage2 blower that I beat. Does anyone have video of these races against my silver C6 ZO6? I also ran and beat the red Viper (1/2 car when he went into fifth), Audi R8 v10, red '13 Shelby GT500 two times, black '11 GT500, red '03 Cobra Mustang (showed 625hp). I lost to the black 458 Italia by 1/2 car and the white GTR (600hp displayed and on e85) by one car and Terry's car mentioned earlier by one car. I would love to see any video that's available. I know several of the drivers were surprised to lose to a basically stock ZO6 (CAI and a tune) with an old man driving (especially the '03 Cobra who warned me he had busted off the ZR1, and felt so confident that he had a passenger along to see his inevitable win. I told him the ZR1 driver was...well, not as capable), but the vids would be greatly appreciated.
    You must have the worlds fastest "stock" Z06.... It's too bad you backed out of our race or I'd have some video to share with you. Instead, here's a video of me, in my stock ZR1, running a stock GTR (545 HP) and the TT Z06 for reference. Maybe you can give me some old school race savvy tips for straight lines? I also beat the grey F458, even after hitting the fuel cut off (whoops), but the 750 HP white M3 was the closest race for me and he pulled about 1/2 a car length I think right about the finish. I've only been driving a stick for a month and a half, since I bought the car, but I don't believe you have a "stock" Z06 turning better times than the ZR1 due to your miraculous driving... maybe I'm wrong.




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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by ProjectWJ Click here to enlarge
    You must have the worlds fastest "stock" Z06.... It's too bad you backed out of our race or I'd have some video to share with you. Instead, here's a video of me, in my stock ZR1, running a stock GTR (545 HP) and the TT Z06 for reference. Maybe you can give me some old school race savvy tips for straight lines? I also beat the grey F458, even after hitting the fuel cut off (whoops), but the 750 HP white M3 was the closest race for me and he pulled about 1/2 a car length I think right about the finish. I've only been driving a stick for a month and a half, since I bought the car, but I don't believe you have a "stock" Z06 turning better times than the ZR1 due to your miraculous driving... maybe I'm wrong.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sT_RrSyEWv0

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uWEuJ...QKUwHtwL53QSRQ
    Uh oh.... some trash talk lol.

    Good vids.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
    He's talking about compression ratio as the be all end all but saying nothing about cylinder pressure or EGT's. I mean, Weistec keeps the compression stock on their built motor setups. Something to think about.

    I still would bet one could get just about even with their built motor setups on the stock internals with an aggressive tune, C16 or E85, and more boost. Regardless, if you want to go past a certain point lack of sleeves is going to cause problems. So, really, mild boost only.
    Well when the VF supercharged E92 M3 was featured on Tuned with Matt Farah, they ran it on a Race Gas tune with 700 BHP (same V3Si blower, DCT equipped car & fully catless)


    Sneaking out another 50 BHP (over the ESS 650 kit) with 100 octane+ isn't that difficult to believe
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by benzy89 Click here to enlarge
    Sneaking out another 50 BHP (over the ESS 650 kit) with 100 octane+ isn't that difficult to believe
    It's very possible as I said just depends how aggressive you want to get with the stock internals but 11 psi on 12.0:1 and 11 psi on say 10.0:1 with the same blower used are actually two very different things.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
    It's very possible as I said just depends how aggressive you want to get with the stock internals but 11 psi on 12.0:1 and 11 psi on say 10.0:1 with the same blower used are actually two very different things.
    Yea, def not gonna argue with that. 9psi (while running C16) is prob the highest amount of boost you'd wanna run on a stock motor; I mean the VF650 runs 7.5-8psi on 93 octane
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    No idea why ESS bothers with going to 10:1 compression build. My mustang runs 11:1 and alot 900+whp 2011 mustangs run 11:1 compression as well on built motors.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by benzy89 Click here to enlarge
    Yea, def not gonna argue with that. 9psi (while running C16) is prob the highest amount of boost you'd wanna run on a stock motor; I mean the VF650 runs 7.5-8psi on 93 octane
    Didn't Active do something like 12 psi recently on the stock motor?

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by kaane Click here to enlarge
    No idea why ESS bothers with going to 10:1 compression build. My mustang runs 11:1 and alot 900+whp 2011 mustangs run 11:1 compression as well on built motors.
    It's older mentality and kind of outdated. People see compression ratios and boost and think OMG you can't boost that. It's just outdated tuning thinking really.

    I was actually going lower than 10.1 but then talked to some guys and they convinced me to bump it.

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    I'd definitely lower CR for higher boost tuning. Gives you a lot more tuning flexibility. But, high static CR + high boost + lots of octane can produce a lot of power. I'd just rather have less static CR and more boost on tap given the option.

    Speaking of your car sticky, is it going to run in my lifetime? Maybe you can sneak in to the ShiftSector event if its running well. Click here to enlarge
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by ProjectWJ Click here to enlarge
    You must have the worlds fastest "stock" Z06.... It's too bad you backed out of our race or I'd have some video to share with you. Instead, here's a video of me, in my stock ZR1, running a stock GTR (545 HP) and the TT Z06 for reference. Maybe you can give me some old school race savvy tips for straight lines? I also beat the grey F458, even after hitting the fuel cut off (whoops), but the 750 HP white M3 was the closest race for me and he pulled about 1/2 a car length I think right about the finish. I've only been driving a stick for a month and a half, since I bought the car, but I don't believe you have a "stock" Z06 turning better times than the ZR1 due to your miraculous driving... maybe I'm wrong.
    That Z06 was damn quick. I run 129mph and he was on my bumper. If I had slept at the start I'd be staring at his.
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by kaane Click here to enlarge
    No idea why ESS bothers with going to 10:1 compression build. My mustang runs 11:1 and alot 900+whp 2011 mustangs run 11:1 compression as well on built motors.
    Your Mustang engine's not as sensitive to F/I boost like the S65. Compared to your Mustang, the S65 prob looks like it's made with glass
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Terry@BMS Click here to enlarge
    I'd definitely lower CR for higher boost tuning. Gives you a lot more tuning flexibility. But, high static CR + high boost + lots of octane can produce a lot of power. I'd just rather have less static CR and more boost on tap given the option.

    Speaking of your car sticky, is it going to run in my lifetime? Maybe you can sneak in to the ShiftSector event if its running well. Click here to enlarge
    I contacted Shift Sector and I can use my "credit" but they only have Sunday available. Meh.

    Ya, big comp can make big power with tons of octane. Lower comp gives more flexibility definitely but also less off-boost power.

    It will run soon... Click here to enlarge

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
    I think more people are interested in Gintani Stage 3 versus Weistec Stage 3 considering the ESS setup runs mild boost from a small blower and isn't even sleeved. I'll be seeing you again next month.
    I'm guessing you mean vs Jrcarts or Earls stage 3+ Clk's since the gintani stage 3 setup your going to be running is a low compression/built motor build so to be apples to apples you should run a built engine/trans weistec car that's running higher boost than a non built engine stage 3

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by ezec63 Click here to enlarge
    I'm guessing you mean vs Jrcarts or Earls stage 3+ Clk's since the gintani stage 3 setup your going to be running is a low compression/built motor build so to be apples to apples you should run a built engine/trans weistec car that's running higher boost than a non built engine stage 3
    I would agree with your assessment.

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    Nobody is watermarking any of the vids with germanboost.com? Man M3post deleted the thread about this event out of spite and now we are just handing them content?

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
    Nobody is watermarking any of the vids with germanboost.com? Man M3post deleted the thread about this event out of spite and now we are just handing them content?
    Whoever's posted the videos can simply delete them & reload with the watermark imprinted (just need somebody to do all the work)
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by benzy89 Click here to enlarge
    Whoever's posted the videos can simply delete them & reload with the watermark imprinted (just need somebody to do all the work)
    I'm not like them, it's fine. I just find it rather hypocritical how they were having their fanboys go in threads promoting Shift-S3ctor instead of this event, putting this event down, deleting threads/posts, and now they are slurping up the videos without giving any credit.

    It's ok, their time will come.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
    I contacted Shift Sector and I can use my "credit" but they only have Sunday available. Meh.

    Ya, big comp can make big power with tons of octane. Lower comp gives more flexibility definitely but also less off-boost power.

    It will run soon... Click here to enlarge
    Go for it! At the very least it's a great safe environment to test and tune the car under real world conditions.
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Terry@BMS Click here to enlarge
    Go for it! At the very least it's a great safe environment to test and tune the car under real world conditions.
    I said I'll take Sunday. Apparently there is some BimmerPost fastest BMW shootout. How funny would it be for BimmerBoost to win BimmerPost's event? Click here to enlarge

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Terry@BMS Click here to enlarge
    That Z06 was damn quick. I run 129mph and he was on my bumper. If I had slept at the start I'd be staring at his.
    Well, I'm just saying something doesn't add up. He said he beat a 600 HP GTR on E85, but theres a vid of me running a stock GTR (545 HP) and I trapped 146-150 MPH every time down the track (including that run and you can critique my shifts/racing "savvy" in the vid). But to beat the GTR he references, he'd have to be running 150+ MPH.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by ProjectWJ Click here to enlarge
    Well, I'm just saying something doesn't add up. He said he beat a 600 HP GTR on E85, but theres a vid of me running a stock GTR (545 HP) and I trapped 146-150 MPH every time down the track (including that run and you can critique my shifts/racing "savvy" in the vid). But to beat the GTR he references, he'd have to be running 150+ MPH.
    You raise a valid point man...

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by JRCART Click here to enlarge
    No BMW beat either one of my cars.....and they never will!


    LOL and I thought I was one cocky dude! Tell Steve I said whats up and that he is doing a great $#@!ing job!
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
    Nobody is watermarking any of the vids with germanboost.com? Man M3post deleted the thread about this event out of spite and now we are just handing them content?
    Durrrr I had the page open from before and didn't refresh to see that you guys already covered that Click here to enlarge

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by ProjectWJ Click here to enlarge
    Well, I'm just saying something doesn't add up. He said he beat a 600 HP GTR on E85, but theres a vid of me running a stock GTR (545 HP) and I trapped 146-150 MPH every time down the track (including that run and you can critique my shifts/racing "savvy" in the vid). But to beat the GTR he references, he'd have to be running 150+ MPH.
    150 mph @ the event or in the 1/4 mile?

    I didn't ask him what mods were on the car, etc, but I read someone mention a tune and intake. I was hitting 157-158mph (VBOX) at the cones later in the day when I raced him so he was in that ballpark.
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
    I said I'll take Sunday. Apparently there is some BimmerPost fastest BMW shootout. How funny would it be for BimmerBoost to win BimmerPost's event? Click here to enlarge
    Would be epic. I'd pay $10 to see you race Drew & Shiv. Maybe they will let you guys go triple wide down the runway. Click here to enlarge
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