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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
    Not necessarily, there is a good spread between 60-130's on KB GT500's. That 60-130 does not necessarily represent this car, only gives an idea of what a GT500 is capable of. There are faster and slower KB cobras. Either way, would be a good run and yes, his car would be a more appropriate match as would yours.

    What's up with you not posting any details on your wheels?
    ill post soon. im doing alignment and corner balance this wkend since i installed coils, then another post. not on m3post, too many haters over there that cant appreciate a shiny lightweight wheel

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by KiokenM3 Click here to enlarge
    ill post soon. im doing alignment and corner balance this wkend since i installed coils, then another post. not on m3post, too many haters over there that cant appreciate a shiny lightweight wheel
    Way too many haters and just stupid kids in general.

    Looking forward to the new pics, I'm considering CCW's for the tack actually.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
    Way too many haters and just stupid kids in general.

    Looking forward to the new pics, I'm considering CCW's for the tack actually.
    DO IT!!!!!!

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    I own a KB 2.8 Shelby, that makes 721whp, and there is a world of difference between that and any blown only M3. My car has run 134 on pump gas. One secret though, make the Cobra run 4-5 times and watch the heatsoak make it a better raceClick here to enlarge

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by boost4u Click here to enlarge
    I own a KB 2.8 Shelby, that makes 721whp, and there is a world of difference between that and any blown only M3. My car has run 134 on pump gas. One secret though, make the Cobra run 4-5 times and watch the heatsoak make it a better raceClick here to enlarge
    Heatsoak is definitely a problem with those positive displacement blowers, but 134 mph is pretty impressive!

    I've run 130 mph with mine before some changes, I think it would have been a good race!

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by boost4u Click here to enlarge
    I own a KB 2.8 Shelby, that makes 721whp, and there is a world of difference between that and any blown only M3. My car has run 134 on pump gas. One secret though, make the Cobra run 4-5 times and watch the heatsoak make it a better raceClick here to enlarge
    Where do you live? Can you find a similarly setup car in the Los Angeles area for some friendly runs?

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    From the Cobra:

    "ey Guys,
    I had the privilege of running an ESS Tuning M3 the other night.

    To start this off, I'm a BMW owner, enthusiast and have owned 5 M cars, with a JB3 135i sitting in my driveway now.

    I also own a 2007 Shelby GT500 with Griggs Suspension, and Kenne Bell Supercharger. The car is definitely healthy power-wise with 700 whp 650 wtq. I feel fortunate to have BMW refinement day to day, and raw american muscle on the weekends.

    Of course these runs are all in good fun, and not meant to hurt anyone's feelings. And filmed in Mexico

    I should note that the M3's owner is a nice guy with a sweeeet &ss ride, and like me has all kinds people talking and speculating about his car and how it would match up against this that and the other... The burden of owning a bad&ss ride...
    My hats off to him for building questionably the sweetest E9X M3 I've seen to date.


    Alright! Detroit vs Munich!!

    Race notes: 3rd gear roll. M3 no passenger, GT500 160lbs passenger."

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
    Heatsoak is definitely a problem with those positive displacement blowers, but 134 mph is pretty impressive!

    I've run 130 mph with mine before some changes, I think it would have been a good race!

    your forgetting some of the basic rules:
    RESPECT MORE SPEED - A LOT. EVEN 3 MPH.

    If you look at the formula again, you'll note how trap speed shows up as the cube root of power to weight. That's critical to understanding how fast one car is over another. Let's say your car does a 90 mph quarter and the guy who raced you in the other lane ran 71 mph. After the race, he wanders over to you to say the 'race was close'. Your reply: "I could have towed you and still beat you". (This might not be the best way to make friends, but yes, it is TRUE if the cars weigh the same.)

    Do the math. (90/71) cubed is 2.04. Yes, the 90 mph car has 2.04 times the power to weight of the slower car. It has 2.04 times the acceleration of the slower car. It's just that the track is a fixed length, and in accelerating to higher speeds, you use up the track quicker. You accelerated to 90 in about 20% less time than he had to accelerate to 71, right?

    Bottom line; Down where most of us run, a 3 mph difference between two cars is NOT a race. It was a clear win. There's a full 10% difference between these cars.
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by TaZaM3 Click here to enlarge
    From the Cobra:

    "ey Guys,
    I had the privilege of running an ESS Tuning M3 the other night.

    To start this off, I'm a BMW owner, enthusiast and have owned 5 M cars, with a JB3 135i sitting in my driveway now.

    I also own a 2007 Shelby GT500 with Griggs Suspension, and Kenne Bell Supercharger. The car is definitely healthy power-wise with 700 whp 650 wtq. I feel fortunate to have BMW refinement day to day, and raw american muscle on the weekends.

    Of course these runs are all in good fun, and not meant to hurt anyone's feelings. And filmed in Mexico

    I should note that the M3's owner is a nice guy with a sweeeet &ss ride, and like me has all kinds people talking and speculating about his car and how it would match up against this that and the other... The burden of owning a bad&ss ride...
    My hats off to him for building questionably the sweetest E9X M3 I've seen to date.


    Alright! Detroit vs Munich!!

    Race notes: 3rd gear roll. M3 no passenger, GT500 160lbs passenger."
    Yes I read that but it makes no sense.

    How is this the cobra owner who raced the ESS car when the OP in that thread says he is? The guy never answered my questions.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by LostMarine Click here to enlarge
    your forgetting some of the basic rules:

    http://www.bimmerboost.com/showthrea...Vs-Realworld-s
    You are forgetting the intake design on the SC changed so there would not have been much of a mph gap, if it all Click here to enlarge

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    maybe now, but you referred to 130 vs 134mph traps Click here to enlarge

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by LostMarine Click here to enlarge
    maybe now, but you referred to 130 vs 134mph traps Click here to enlarge
    Ya well the car still had more in it too Click here to enlarge I was more referring to my SC M3 vs. that cobra, just mentioning that I ran 130 and I believe it would be a better run.

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    I concur

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    guys why are we bashing the guy for losing a race to a car that has another 200hp?? hats off for testing his machine against the baddest out there!!! it sounds corny but this ess vs the world crap has made it so we forgot that we are all one brand my god!! like if you go on lambo power or 6speed there isnt that much interbrand hate like what we have here!!! 335 vs m3 and ess vs gintani!! its like if he won people would have been upset instead of saying a bmw just kicked a fords ass giving up 200hp

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by MSIZZLE Click here to enlarge
    guys why are we bashing the guy for losing a race to a car that has another 200hp?? hats off for testing his machine against the baddest out there!!! it sounds corny but this ess vs the world crap has made it so we forgot that we are all one brand my god!! like if you go on lambo power or 6speed there isnt that much interbrand hate like what we have here!!! 335 vs m3 and ess vs gintani!! its like if he won people would have been upset instead of saying a bmw just kicked a fords ass giving up 200hp
    Hats off for running, absolutely.

    The post history of the guy with the ESS kit regarding how "powerful" it is and all his exaggerated butt dyno claims are part of the reason.

    It is a nice car, with solid hardware, and we always give props to guys who go out there and run.

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    Reality mustang gt500 are $#@! in my point of view I've never liked mustangs at ALL !


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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by E46rage Click here to enlarge
    Reality mustang gt500 are $#@! in my point of view I've never liked mustangs at ALL !


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    No worries, everyone has their own view on them.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by E46rage Click here to enlarge
    Reality mustang gt500 are $#@! in my point of view I've never liked mustangs at ALL !


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    and that $#@! just smoked an s/c s65, sooo... to each their own Click here to enlarge

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    I live in Columbus, Ohio for the record. Both are awesome rides with different purposes. In a straightline drag race, the KB Shelby will demoralize a Blown M3 until the first turnClick here to enlarge

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by boost4u Click here to enlarge
    I live in Columbus, Ohio for the record. Both are awesome rides with different purposes. In a straightline drag race, the KB Shelby will demoralize a Blown M3 until the first turnClick here to enlarge
    It depends what blown BMW, but, for the most part this is very true.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
    It depends what blown BMW, but, for the most part this is very true.
    until proven otherwise, it is 100% fact Click here to enlarge

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by LostMarine Click here to enlarge
    until proven otherwise, it is 100% fact Click here to enlarge
    It is proven otherwise, sub 600 whp blown M3's are trapping 130-131. 700+ whp KB Cobras are trapping ~134. KB cobras range from low 600's to 8xx (9xx as well?).

    You should be able to figure this out. If stock internal SC M3's on pump gas are a good run, what will built motor SC m3's be? Here is a hint, they won't be slower.

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    its very easy, show me a s/c S65 m beating a KB Cobra Click here to enlarge heres a hint, i cant find any evidence of that ever taking place

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by LostMarine Click here to enlarge
    its very easy, show me a s/c S65 m beating a KB Cobra Click here to enlarge heres a hint, i cant find any evidence of that ever taking place
    Good point, very odd that is the case with how long the S65 has been out and all that development time. Considering we have so many SC S65's to choose from it really is odd we don't have more videos of runs.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
    Good point, very odd that is the case with how long the S65 has been out and all that development time. Considering we have so many SC S65's to choose from it really is odd we don't have more videos of runs.
    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by LostMarine Click here to enlarge
    until proven otherwise, it is 100% fact Click here to enlarge
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