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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by benzy89 Click here to enlarge
    The GTR was NOT using Launch Control, which are the performance figures you're all using as supporting information. I'm sure if the GTR & M6 both used LC, the GTR would've pulled away because we all know the GTR's DCT can bang out Veyron-like acceleration numbers.
    LC has nothing to do with the the trap speed, nor does the et, a car can roll through the beams start the clock and hit the brakes, then hit the gas and get its normal trap speed but a 30sec 1/4 mile time!

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by fast4door Click here to enlarge
    I think people are making out the GTR to be more than it is..for sure its a fast car, but stock, its not unbeatable..now once you start modding those monsters, its a whole other ball game..
    really!?!?! 0-6 in 2.8 sec and multiple sub 11 sec 1/4 bone stock cars and runs consistent all night!! Plus it's the 4th fastest production car on the planet around the ring, so how is that not pretty much all that?? i mean stock from a dig on the street a tts and an aventador is on a short list of cars that beat it, from a roll maybe a couple of more cars if shifted properly. god forbid if you cap the price at even 200k!!!

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by MSIZZLE Click here to enlarge
    really!?!?! 0-6 in 2.8 sec and multiple sub 11 sec 1/4 bone stock cars and runs consistent all night!! Plus it's the 4th fastest production car on the planet around the ring, so how is that not pretty much all that?? i mean stock from a dig on the street a tts and an aventador is on a short list of cars that beat it, from a roll maybe a couple of more cars if shifted properly. god forbid if you cap the price at even 200k!!!
    Nissan cheats.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by fast4door Click here to enlarge
    not if the car that traps higher is AWD..if you have two cars with same hp, tq, and weight..but one is AWD and the other is not..the AWD will have a better 1/4 time and trap speed..example, 335xi vs 335i..the xi typically traps higher and has a better 1/4 time stock, but from a roll, the xi isnt always the winner..

    now in the case of this video..the M6 makes more torque at lower rpm and has a little more hp than the GTR..when you take away the advantage of AWD in a roll race, it really isnt that hard to believe the M6 can win. Yes, the M6 is a heavy car..but the GTR isnt exactly light either, and once the cars are moving..weight doesnt matter as much..
    awd has 0 to do with trap speed nor does 60ft, some say wheel spin actually increases the trap speed, the 12 & up gtr's will trap 125mph and better, the m6 is 120 and under, you CANT make that up in a clean run. the fastest 12's have trapped 128 while the m6 is only 120. to match that known disparity and then put bus lengths on it like that would represent the m6 was about a 135 car witch it isnt. like i said before this race was over around 130 so using 1/4 traps as a reference is valid.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
    Nissan cheats.
    Sticky i know your not a fan but you cant debate facts and math considering a clean run, you cant make up 5-8mph traps and add 5 car lenths, its just not possible.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by MSIZZLE Click here to enlarge
    Sticky i know your not a fan but you cant debate facts and math considering a clean run, you cant make up 5-8mph traps and add 5 car lenths, its just not possible.
    The difference isn't 8 mph between these cars.

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    the fastest f13 m6 is 120 and the fastest gtr is 128, the average m6 is probably 118 while the average gtr is probably 124

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by MSIZZLE Click here to enlarge
    the fastest f13 m6 is 120 and the fastest gtr is 128, the average m6 is probably 118 while the average gtr is probably 124
    I've already gone over the trap speeds. And the M6 puts out a lot more power to the wheels so don't know what to tell you.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by MSIZZLE Click here to enlarge
    LC has nothing to do with the the trap speed, nor does the et, a car can roll through the beams start the clock and hit the brakes, then hit the gas and get its normal trap speed but a 30sec 1/4 mile time!
    I would disagree. Higher rpm means more power sooner, more power sooner is more power over the distance which equals faster

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    The dynos and weights supplied by Sticky give a power to weight ratio of 8.1lbs/hp for the M6 compared to almost 9lbs/hp for the GTR. Its no suprise the M6 is faster especially at a roll.
    ​#Chuckstrong

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
    I've already gone over the trap speeds. And the M6 puts out a lot more power to the wheels so don't know what to tell you.
    yea the slowest gtr trap vs the fastest m6 trap

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    i want to make my position clear here, if i were to buy another car here it would be the my hands down over the gtr, but facts are facts

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by LostMarine Click here to enlarge
    I would disagree. Higher rpm means more power sooner, more power sooner is more power over the distance which equals faster
    a mash and go isnt exactly limping of the line in these types of cars, if someone cares to test it i bet there is a 1 maybe 2mph change in the trap

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    BS video. Also who drives GTR stock? Nobody.
    M6 is a great cruiser and looks good.

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    Never said 335xi's are the highest trapping 335's, but stock for stock the xi traps higher from everything Ive seen, unless Im looking at bad info. My whole point was that when you take away most of the advantage of AWD, its not that hard to believe a stock M6 beating a stock GTR, from a roll.

    If you have two similar cars with similar hp, torque, weight, tires, etc,..but one is AWD and the other is not, the AWD car will trap higher and have better times. So comparing 1/4 mile times when this race was from a roll, still doenst make sense to me, but whatever

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by MSIZZLE Click here to enlarge
    really!?!?! 0-6 in 2.8 sec and multiple sub 11 sec 1/4 bone stock cars and runs consistent all night!! Plus it's the 4th fastest production car on the planet around the ring, so how is that not pretty much all that?? i mean stock from a dig on the street a tts and an aventador is on a short list of cars that beat it, from a roll maybe a couple of more cars if shifted properly. god forbid if you cap the price at even 200k!!!
    yes i know, theyre fast..but from a roll they arent unbeatable, stock that is

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by RnmEvo9 Click here to enlarge
    A stock 335xi will NOT trap higher than a stock 335i...
    I actually looked that up before my first post, and from what Ive seen.yeah they do..

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by KB Click here to enlarge
    The dynos and weights supplied by Sticky give a power to weight ratio of 8.1lbs/hp for the M6 compared to almost 9lbs/hp for the GTR. Its no suprise the M6 is faster especially at a roll.
    yes, exactly..thats all im trying to say

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by MSIZZLE Click here to enlarge
    i want to make my position clear here, if i were to buy another car here it would be the my hands down over the gtr, but facts are facts
    I agree

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by fast4door Click here to enlarge
    I actually looked that up before my first post, and from what Ive seen.yeah they do..
    That defies the laws of physics. Please share with us where you got your information. Hopefully both cars were run at the same track and the same day to verify this.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by MSIZZLE Click here to enlarge
    yea the slowest gtr trap vs the fastest m6 trap
    I didn't mention the slowest trap only and I even posted a slip so...

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
    I didn't mention the slowest trap only and I even posted a slip so...
    do you want me to post the 10.8 at 128 slips bone stock??

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by MSIZZLE Click here to enlarge
    do you want me to post the 10.8 at 128 slips bone stock??
    Sorry off topic question, do you still have your V10 M6?
    ///M5 LCI
    "It's like the F10 is the 911 Turbo to the E60's GT3" -Pistonheads (M5 feature)

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by MSIZZLE Click here to enlarge
    do you want me to post the 10.8 at 128 slips bone stock??
    Ya that's clearly realistic.

    The M6 is rear wheel drive, the weights are close, and it makes a lot more power. There isn't some retarded variation in trap speed between the cars or in their roll on performance.

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    go pro facing back = undisclosed mods /thread
    wtf 10.8?!?

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