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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by rick@defiv Click here to enlarge
    I have to get dyno feedback before pursuing this further-yes, they car "feels" great, but the process was so utterly brutal to engineer that I want numbers before pursuing replication. had to remove front end,intercooler, loosen and raise engine,and I'm not sure how doable any of this is with the trans in place. Major surgery and a lot of little clearancing mods. It took me almost 3 days with trans out,granted that's with welding...but I want to see actual gains before deciding any further on the matter. Making a production part is a major undertaking and investment, so we will start with dynos, see if it's worthy per investment and take it from there.
    Understood, but just in case you like the numbers and want to go ahead and continue would you want pics of my "IS"?

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by rick@defiv Click here to enlarge
    I have to get dyno feedback before pursuing this further-yes, they car "feels" great, but the process was so utterly brutal to engineer that I want numbers before pursuing replication. had to remove front end,intercooler, loosen and raise engine,and I'm not sure how doable any of this is with the trans in place. Major surgery and a lot of little clearancing mods. It took me almost 3 days with trans out,granted that's with welding...but I want to see actual gains before deciding any further on the matter. Making a production part is a major undertaking and investment, so we will start with dynos, see if it's worthy per investment and take it from there.
    That's a pretty stand up move. It's not common for a vendor to refuse to sell a product until they know it will provide substantial gainsClick here to enlarge
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by rick@defiv Click here to enlarge
    I have to get dyno feedback before pursuing this further-yes, they car "feels" great, but the process was so utterly brutal to engineer that I want numbers before pursuing replication. had to remove front end,intercooler, loosen and raise engine,and I'm not sure how doable any of this is with the trans in place. Major surgery and a lot of little clearancing mods. It took me almost 3 days with trans out,granted that's with welding...but I want to see actual gains before deciding any further on the matter. Making a production part is a major undertaking and investment, so we will start with dynos, see if it's worthy per investment and take it from there.

    Click here to enlarge Sounds good, keep us updated
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by rader1 Click here to enlarge
    That's a pretty stand up move. It's not common for a vendor to refuse to sell a product until they know it will provide substantial gainsClick here to enlarge
    +1. A very sound approach!

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by rader1 Click here to enlarge
    That's a pretty stand up move. It's not common for a vendor to refuse to sell a product until they know it will provide substantial gainsClick here to enlarge
    Building a rock solid brand overrules immediate profits in my eyes. Thanks for understanding-Although I do this for a living, It's about more than just money. Anything that bears my name is considered a direct representation of myself, and it's treated as suchClick here to enlarge

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by rick@defiv Click here to enlarge
    Building a rock solid brand overrules immediate profits in my eyes. Thanks for understanding-Although I do this for a living, It's about more than just money. Anything that bears my name is considered a direct representation of myself, and it's treated as suchClick here to enlarge
    that is why I will by a product from you with our hesitation. I had my inlet pipes off when doing my RB install....I will get these and do a DIY lol!
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by rick@defiv Click here to enlarge
    Building a rock solid brand overrules immediate profits in my eyes. Thanks for understanding-Although I do this for a living, It's about more than just money. Anything that bears my name is considered a direct representation of myself, and it's treated as suchClick here to enlarge
    If only all vendors thought this way. +repped
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by robc1976 Click here to enlarge
    that is why I will by a product from you with our hesitation.
    Click here to enlarge rick does it right...
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by rick@defiv Click here to enlarge
    Building a rock solid brand overrules immediate profits in my eyes. Thanks for understanding-Although I do this for a living, It's about more than just money. Anything that bears my name is considered a direct representation of myself, and it's treated as suchClick here to enlarge
    Would rep if I could. Rick, people need to run their businesses like you.
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by DefactoM6 Click here to enlarge
    Would rep if I could. Rick, people need to run their businesses like you.
    Don't get me wrong-It's FAR from easy to operate this way, things don't happen as fast as I'd like at times-BUT there's a trend in this country of outsourcing and businesses focusing primarily on screwing anyone out of their last buck. The current economic and social behavior en masse supports this system, in fact it makes it difficult to operate otherwise...It's a frustrating climate, but if not anything else I am an incredibly idealistic and stubborn person-I've never once set foot in a Walmart,I never will, If it's not produced in a handful of acceptable countries, I won't buy it, and that applies to everything. If not anything else, I look at what I'm doing as an "experiment" to see if one can truly succeed in this country in current times starting with nothing and not compromising their core ideals. I guess we'll see if that still works...it used to...Click here to enlarge

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by rick@defiv Click here to enlarge
    Don't get me wrong-It's FAR from easy to operate this way, things don't happen as fast as I'd like at times-BUT there's a trend in this country of outsourcing and businesses focusing primarily on screwing anyone out of their last buck. The current economic and social behavior en masse supports this system, in fact it makes it difficult to operate otherwise...It's a frustrating climate, but if not anything else I am an incredibly idealistic and stubborn person-I've never once set foot in a Walmart,I never will, If it's not produced in a handful of acceptable countries, I won't buy it, and that applies to everything. If not anything else, I look at what I'm doing as an "experiment" to see if one can truly succeed in this country in current times starting with nothing and not compromising their core ideals. I guess we'll see if that still works...it used to...Click here to enlarge
    Call me an optimist, but I think you're on the leading edge of a trend. Outsourcing is coming home to roost, it simply isn't sustainable in it's current form; local, talented artisans are coming in high demand in small yet lucrative pockets of the market. Head down, eyes up. I'll be putting in a diff lockdown soon, and if the logistics are possible (and you were interested), I'd consider bringing my car on a weekend to prototype those intakes.
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    Hey guys.
    Here are two logs taken today at 80 Deg Farenheit,
    They are on bone stock Stg 3 Procede maps (9/10/12)
    Keep in mind the 7" ETS FMIC may alter the WGDC numbers, so when comparing it should be with a comparable setup as mine Click here to enlarge
    Also note that my Fueling is maxing out in tip-in and I'm overboosting.
    I will make changes to the Stg 3 map to get rid of the fueling issues then address the overboost. I wanted to take some logs on stock maps though for best-possible comparison (and armchair analysis.)
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    Gendarms. Here is stg3 set to 100% boost (~19PSI) & 100 OL Fueling, OL table itself was 'turned up to 11'.

    As you can see WGDC stays under 80 until upper RPMs. Is this better than normal? I have no idea.

    I think the WGDC table itself needs to be adjusted to take full advantage of the pipes, but I am no tuner.

    Do the inlet pipes help or are they useless?
    Will I blow up the turbos before throwing it on a dyno?
    Stay tuned for expert analysis...

    Edit: Added the map for any brave souls who wish to attempt the same thing; please post up your logs with the following channels


    Unit Name=CAN DBW Throttle
    Unit Name=CAN Actual AFR Bank 1
    Unit Name=CAN Fuel Trim Bank 1
    Unit Name=CAN Fuel Trim Bank 2
    Unit Name=CAN Actual Ign Adv
    Unit Name=Inlet Air Temp
    Unit Name=Throttle
    Unit Name=Boost Control DC
    Unit Name=Boost Control Set Point
    Unit Name=Knock Retard
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by uniter Click here to enlarge
    Gendarms. Here is stg3 set to 100% boost (~19PSI) & 100 OL Fueling, OL table itself was 'turned up to 11'.

    As you can see WGDC stays under 80 until upper RPMs. Is this better than normal? I have no idea.

    I think the WGDC table itself needs to be adjusted to take full advantage of the pipes, but I am no tuner.

    Do the inlet pipes help or are they useless?
    Will I blow up the turbos before throwing it on a dyno?
    Stay tuned for expert analysis...

    Edit: Added the map for any brave souls who wish to attempt the same thing; please post up your logs with the following channels


    Unit Name=CAN DBW Throttle
    Unit Name=CAN Actual AFR Bank 1
    Unit Name=CAN Fuel Trim Bank 1
    Unit Name=CAN Fuel Trim Bank 2
    Unit Name=CAN Actual Ign Adv
    Unit Name=Inlet Air Temp
    Unit Name=Throttle
    Unit Name=Boost Control DC
    Unit Name=Boost Control Set Point
    Unit Name=Knock Retard
    you guys are puttin in some work eh

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    LOL Well Rick hasn't touched this map, it's all my ineptitude. He may be glancing it at it tomorrow.
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    The only way you can tell is back to back stock then upgraded.

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    @Flinchy: that's not gonna happen Click here to enlarge
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    Very interested in this, can't wait for more information to be shared from a vendor who is going through great lengths in testing this product out, repped.Click here to enlarge

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by uniter Click here to enlarge
    @Flinchy : that's not gonna happen Click here to enlarge
    Cant tell real gains then Click here to enlarge

    oh well haha

    are there any pics of them?

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    Only the ones in the thread... Not anywhere near 'production ready' in either case. Next car will have real pre/post analysis for you to oogle.
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    Anxiously awaiting more information. Hope these work and go into production.

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    OP PM me if you are interested in another tester , I could have these in without any hassle... but I would need them in 2ish weeks which I doubt is possible
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by ChuckD05 Click here to enlarge
    OP PM me if you are interested in another tester , I could have these in without any hassle... but I would need them in 2ish weeks which I doubt is possible
    LOL, if you can come out for the install i'm sure something can be arranged.
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